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sommerset, do games w Pop it in your calendars
@sommerset@thelemmy.club avatar

Didn’t even know what it was

merc, do games w Pop it in your calendars
@merc@sh.itjust.works avatar

Pop it in your calendars? Maybe I’m using calendars wrong, but mine aren’t filled with things I should avoid doing. But, I’m willing to learn. What date should I put “Don’t Buy Subnautica 2” on?

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Everyday up until it releases

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Shat about after it releases? How will I know to keep not buying it?

HugeNerd,

Shat about after it releases?

Sure, but maybe not in public?

echodot,

It’s not coming out until 2026. It’s probably unhealthy to hold it in that long.

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w Pop it in your calendars

Ok, no problem.

nul9o9, (edited ) do games w Pop it in your calendars

Pirate all Krafton games.

Edit. Apparently there’s more to the story.

Bosht, do games w Pop it in your calendars

Oh fucking god dammit. I was really looking forward to it too.

mechoman444, do games w Pop it in your calendars

O no!!! I didn’t even buy subnautica one!!!

ArchmageAzor, do games w Pop it in your calendars
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

You should get a publisher if:

You want to make one game then get fired

You want your work to be bastardized by the publisher in the future

You want countless hours of overtime/crunch and no compensation

You want to be another disposable cog in the machine

If that doesn’t sound like something you want, self-publish.

Opisek, do games w Pop it in your calendars

Just typical KRAFTON doing KRAFTON things.

Nikls94, do games w Pop it in your calendars

As much as I hate Nintendo, publishing wise they’re good.

BackgrndNoize, do games w Pop it in your calendars

I don’t understand how game dev works, how does a publishing company fire the CEO of a game dev company. Like do these publishers own the game company?

Wolf, (edited )

Very often they do, but not always. In this particular case they do.

BackgrndNoize,

Fuckin vertical integration bullshit

Plebcouncilman,

The founders sold it, it’s not like they were put a gun to their heads to sell.

UberKitten, do games w Pop it in your calendars

they did such a bad job on Below Zero, this could be a turn for the better for the series. though if there are microtransactions that would kill it.

berty,

Below Zero wasn’t a bad game.

_cryptagion, do games w Pop it in your calendars

I mean, I wasn’t planning on buying it before I played it anyway.

Baguette, do games w Pop it in your calendars

I will wait and see how its release goes, not that I ever pre ordered a game anyways

I don’t have high hopes but I’m going to save my opinions for when it’s released

SaltySalamander,

This isn't a question of whether or not the game is good, it's a question of whether or not you want to support a publisher that will resort to these types of tactics. Guess it depends on your brand of morality.

Baguette,

The dev bonus payout is still unconfirmed and is a rumor until of course either an insider confirms it or it gets confirmed at the end of 2025, when the payout is supposed to happen. Who knows exactly how true it will be, hence why I’m not basing my opinion on it just yet. Could end up being moved to a different date, could end up being true. I just dislike immediately raising pitchforks just because a terrible thing supposedly may happen. I have enough patience to wait and see what the future holds.

Yea the founders getting ousted is a bit of a sour taste. I just have less sympathy for them since they were also the ones who sold the company in the first place.

ter_maxima, do games w Pop it in your calendars

Publishers are cancer. Self publish whenever possible !

Wolf,

You Don’t Need a F-ing Publisher*

*unless you do.

It would just require smaller teams making lower budget games that are more focused on Art than sales, which I would be really happy about honestly. Too many people are in this industry solely to rake in the big bucks.

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

A self-published game with a focus on quality will outperform any AAA game.

Wolf, (edited )

If you are going to compete with AAA games it’s going to require a big budget, which not all Devs have access to.

A high quality AA game would probably do great, but would be unlikely to outsell a AAA with hundreds of millions of dollars for budget.

Obsidian made a fantastic game with Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire but it was considered a ‘failure’ sales wise (at least at launch), despite being well received.

Obsidian sold to Micro$oft despite making very high quality games and their crowdfunding campaigns consistently earning more money than they were asking for. The stated reason was they found it hard to keep their employees paid consistently and they didn’t want to lay people off. Also that they thought they could do just as good as other big players in the industry if they had access to larger budgets.

I think it was a bad move. They managed to survive the massive round of 9,000 jobs cuts to Microsoft’s gaming division (this time), but you just know that Microsoft would cut them in a heartbeat if they thought it would save them a dime in the future. That being said I think it’s understandable to want to see your employees paid, and it’s just a sad fact that AAA games require huge budgets nowadays, so I can kind of understand why they sold, even if I don’t agree with it.

Muaddib,

I’m still waiting for Obsidian to finish writing the second half of Tyranny and I won’t be buying another of their games until they do.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Source?

Pretty much every popular indie game has a publisher. Publishers are great because they provide relatively low cost marketing, the trick is to be careful when signing a contract that you don’t sign away too much while still getting value from them.

Vermingot,

It’s not so black and white, Clair Obscur : Expédition 33 has that level of quality and polish because the team behind it was able to find a publisher to finance it. Everything has nuance, we got shafted on subnautica 2 but we had other great games, some self published, some not

Imgonnatrythis, do games w Pop it in your calendars

Is this definitely what those devs are asking for? Sure this isn’t just cutting them twice?

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