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Tattorack, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Me; neither.

I’m incredibly sick and tired of videogames usually picking just two lanes:

  • Super photoreal graphics, optimisation be damned, that’ll look dated in just a few years.
  • Pixelated nostalgia tripping for people still stuck in the past.
knexcar,

There are plenty of video games that strive somewhere in between, like Cities Skylines, Factorio, Zelda Breath of the Wild, etc

bampop, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
@bampop@lemmy.world avatar

I really don’t see the point of the whole pixelated aesthetic. I mean, it’s nostalgia, but for what? For a time when we wished we had more pixels? If you want that kind of nostalgia, why not also have a loading screen showing a cassette tape going round… for 15 fucking minutes. Hell, it isn’t even accurate nostalgia, because pixelation on a hi res smartphone or monitor looks totally different from the blurry pixelation you get on a shitty CRT TV. If you can see the corners on your pixels, you’re doing it wrong.

I know there is a lot to be nostalgic for, it’s just that the lack of pixels isn’t one of those things. Some things have simply gotten better, more pixels is one of those things. Pixelation is just a way of making a game graphically less clear and less pleasant to look at. /rant

skisnow,

I mean, it’s nostalgia, but for what?

I think you might be falling at the first hurdle with your reasoning. Pixel art can be beautiful in of itself.

MonkderVierte,

It’s an art style born out of neccessity but still distinct. You know, pixel art. Has their own ästhetics.

bampop, (edited )
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Don’t get me wrong, I love the creativity that comes from having such a limitation. And back when it was a necessity, and you could count the color palette on your fingers, some pixel art was amazing. But it was largely about trying to transcend those limitations. For example, it was very common to use antialiasing as much as possible, because you’re trying to make things look good despite the pixellation. Whereas the aesthetic of modern pixel art tends to be about making things as clunky and jaggy as can be, so you can really check out those pixels, or showcase that crappy color palette. Conspicuous pixellation is untrue to its origins. It also makes game objects less recognizable, sacrificing utility for an aesthetic. I know there are people who like it, which is fine, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be criticized, and so far I have seen no counterpoints to the criticisms I have raised.

MonkderVierte,

For example, Rimworld uses pixelart for utility before aesthetic.

Btw, aesthetic vs. ästhetik; what english volks do just to not use Umlauts.

bampop,
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For example, Rimworld uses pixelart for utility before aesthetic.

That’s interesting. I’ve never played Rimworld, how does that work?

catfeeder,

Just because you personally dislike certain art style doesn’t make it objectively bad. I’m a zoomer, I don’t have nostalgia for pixel graphics and yet I enjoy pixel art. I can’t stand CRT filters on pixel games (modern or emulated) btw.

bampop,
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Just because you personally dislike certain art style doesn’t make it objectively bad.

It’s an aesthetic style! How would it be objectively bad? Of course my opinions are subjective.

catfeeder,

I’ve dealt with enough people who think their preferences are absolute that I just couldn’t be sure whether you’re one of them or not. I’m glad we agree that art is subjective.

bampop,
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No I just like a good rant. 😁

skibidi, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

In most games I find no matter how good the static assets look, the animations immediately break the illusion of ‘realism’.

One recent exception to this were some of the cutscenes in Expedition 33, the facial mocap was very on-point and, even though the game isn’t anywhere close to photorealistic, it felt close to watching real actors perform a scene.

neoscaler, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
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Funny cuz it’s true

nymnympseudonym, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
@nymnympseudonym@piefed.social avatar

ASCII NetHack FTW

PushButton,

I’ve never ascended, only descended to my inevitable grave…

nymnympseudonym,
@nymnympseudonym@piefed.social avatar

My IRL gravestone will read simply:

YASD

ExtremeDullard,
@ExtremeDullard@piefed.social avatar

Mine will read “You have died of dysentery”.

catfeeder,
nymnympseudonym,
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holy shit I feel personally identified

Imma go get drunk

@!!!!!!!!!!!

ICastFist, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
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I stopped being a graphics whore around the mid PS2 era, mostly because my computer couldn’t run the more realistic games like GTA Vice City 😁

I unironically love seeing newer indies with PS1/N64 style 3D graphics

Yaky,

I love it too, Dusk being one of my favorites. My only complaints with modern PS1/PSX aesthetic 3D graphics (as I often see on reddit):

  • overly exagerrated vertex wobble (the only time i really noticed that was quake 2 animations on a high-res monitor)
  • low polygon count, but modern effects (soft shadows, god rays, etc)
mavu, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

I think i have to re-watch that series. Best TV in the last decade.

ReasonablePea,

What show is this from? I’ve always wondered

hexabs,

The umbrella academy

NotASharkInAManSuit,

Might I suggest Doom Patrol? Umbrella Academy was inspired pretty much entirely by Doom Patrol and Gerard Way dropping the ball on his run at the series.

Kolanaki, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Until it can be actually photo-realistic and cross the uncanny valley, it’s best to just have a stylized aesthetic anyway.

ZILtoid1991,

No, you must be angry about “DEI-chins” and “uglified women” instead, then demand that all female characters must be like Eve from Stellar Blade! /j

ZILtoid1991, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

As a teenager, I warned people that at a certain point, we will reach the diminishing returns of investment on graphics. I was called a “Mario playing child” by my peers.

I started to feel validated since 2016. And the “DEI-jaw” chud gamers like to whine about is also likely created by the too much faith in how much current graphics can recreate realism accurately.

justsomeguy, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

It’s like a rewiring through new experience. Back in the day games were improving in looks and gameplay rapidly. Then the latter started deteriorating for many big studio titles.

You tell me some new AAAA Ubisoft game is coming out and my gag reflex starts to tingle.

A new pixel graphic indie title with great reviews? Sign me up.

The fruit that was once sweet has become poison.

anomnom,

I’m there with you, but a little worried that AI pixel slop is coming to ruin it.

Retro gaming has become my jam, but I’m also rapidly approaching 50 and have an 8y/o that likes to learn my old games with me for now. So I’m gonna enjoy that while we can.

justsomeguy,

My nieces’ favorite video game of all time is dead or alive 3 on the original Xbox. There’s a switch with new games and fancier graphics connected to an OLED tv but at the end of the day they just want to kick people as simply as possible. Old ass console connected to an old tv in a guest room.

Nobody is better at sniffing out what’s actually fun than kids. They might get tricked by marketing here and there but once they get their hands on things it’s a simple process for them. Does this spark joy?

Ephera,

Yeah, I feel like humanity should’ve figured out sooner that reality does not have great gameplay… 🫠

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

i mean, yeah it does. you just gotta figure out not only finding and maintaing relationships with compatible partners (both tasks difficulty: S)

HollowNaught, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...
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I remember detesting ps2-era 3d graphics, commonly thinking I’d just prefer it if was more pixelated (think like on the ds)

I’ve come to really like that look tho

Chronographs, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

I wanted photo realistic games when I was younger, and now I get to enjoy playing them. I also enjoy playing 2d games. It turns out fidelity is just an artistic choice which does little to predict the quality of a game 🙄

Ephera,

Also has to be said that 2D vs. 3D is basically just different genres, because it affects gameplay so much. Someone who only plays 3D games misses out on a whole bunch of variety.

SlurpingPus,

I exclusively play 2.5D, to get the best of both worlds.

cybernihongo, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

Once upon a time I wanted a strong PC so badly so I could play… Grand Theft Auto IV.

Now, I don’t want anything to do with that franchise. Granted I still do play some AAA stuff, more so PS3 games, and I now want a strong PC for Cyberpunk 2077 to explore its world and give myself extra background for the TTRPG Cyberpunk RED, but other than that I mostly just want indie and retro.

Suburbanl3g3nd, do gaming w I have been cucked

Wife’s name is showing in the water bottle fyi

dogdeanafternoon,

That’s just what she named her water bottle

comrade19,

Haha yep my wife’s name is Jessica. Please do not download her.

cerebralhawks, do gaming w I have been cucked

Pour one out for our brother in arms whose wife just gave him permission to build a second gaming PC ;)

zewm,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

Not in this economy. Ram alone will require a second mortgage.

Ch3rry314,

Aye. Time for a dock and a second monitor.

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