It wa really hard having fun ripping through the wasteland as the ugliest self-indulgent chaotic-evil idiot savant I could be, while knowing the backstory is from perfect picket fences and I could lecture Dominic Torreto on family.
I won’t even play the game without modding it, and first in line is always Start Me Up. You can write your own story about who you are and it converts all the Sean quests into “find this dead guy’s kid.” So much better.
Oh, that’s cool. That rnlght be worth a reinstall once I finish my current games… IF I can make it out of Nexus with under 15 mins browsing mods and not picking up any that CTD and take an hour to isolate and remove lol
i really hope bethesda can hire some writers one day, rather than having the entire office collectively create the story on a single medium sized whiteboard
Sorry I should have clarified, Fallout New Vegas is the best Fallout game AFTER Bethesda bought out Black Isle Studios. Devs from Black Isle helped on NV thats why it was so good!
If I had all that money in the world I would buy the rights to Friends and New Vegas and send Pinkerton agents after anyone who held an unauthorized copy. I’d then burn every single fucking one of them.
Luckily I do not have the money so the game continues to exist and I just sit in the corner, never opening my mouth because most people would try to kill me the second they I say that New Vegas bored me worse than Twilight.
I mean I wouldn’t kill you if it bored you it bored you! That’s fair game, not everyone is going to like the same shit and if anyone’s gets anymore than the tiny bit heated for you saying New Vegas is boring then they need to come off the internet. The internet, should be about expressing opinions and free speech, while others propose an agreement or disagreement but only in a manner of conversation. Never in a manner of ‘I’m better than you’ or ‘you must be stupid because I don’t agree with you’. So all in all, I love New Vegas, but if you dont that’s fine. Plus the first part made me laugh for the first time today so go you!
Said to a buddy the other day that New Vegas is my least favorite game and his instant response was “We can’t be friends anymore”. Had the same convo with someone else yesterday too and the same response.
Like NV is fine. I have no issue with the game itself, there’s nothing wrong with it, its just not my thing. I liked Fallout 3 and 4 because I like sorting through the ruins of civilization and putting together the pieces of what happened. But New Vegas is settlements and civilizations and factions and conversations as far as the eye can see. Fallout 76 was too balanced towards having nothing in it and Fallout New Vegas was balanced towards having too much for me. And it’s not like I didn’t play NV. I got a couple hundred hours in it and have done my fair share of fuckery. I’ve been beaten by the old ladies with rolling pins (THAT, I fully admit, got me hard) I’ve exploded a motel ladies head from a dude inside of a dinosaur, I went to far off casinos but meh.
Also, and I will die on this hill specifically, Fallout 3 had a better musical selection than New Vegas did. At least for me. 95% of the GNR music I can bop along to but I’m constantly changing stations in NV to escape westerns.
It frustrates me when people form an opinion based on zero experience. How would they know they do or not like it if they haven’t tried? But you have and you’ve gave it a fair whack by the sounds of it. And I totally get the overwhelming sensation NV can give you, after hundreds of hours I know the feeling. Fallout 3 was special for me as its the first one I played and I really enjoyed it, I felt NV did a better job, for me though. However 4, I think is a different ballpark because it skips a lot of the core elements of both of those games a wittles it down to be able to suit a more, easiest way to say it, ‘dumbed down audience’ and I think it was marketed wrong. I don’t know if you’ve ever tried it but I had 1000x more fun in 4 when I didn’t follow any quest or map markers or storylines. I got out the vault and just went a explored and I treated it as I was roleplaying ad an explorer. I see a building, I think oh I’ll go look at that that looks cool. And I enjoyed it so much more cause I played it without stress of the storyline but I enjoyed just searching around and seeing what I could find and there were so many parts I hadn’t explored before! In that aspect, from an exploration point of view, I really enjoyed 4.
Also the old ladies and the roling pins, you ain’t alone…awful that I know exactly what you mean haha
Also massive preach, NV has nothing on the F3 & F4 soundtracks. And 76, I played an hour or two so I can’t really comment.
I’m just laughing over the downvotes. See exactly what I mean? People cannot handle a differing opinion. I said nothing about NV being objectively worse, just why I don’t like it but nah. Not good enough. How fragile and insecure some people are would be truly side-splittingly hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.
I prefer 3 and 4 to NV any day of the week but… 4? It’s a worse game than any of the others by every margin. How I do play it is exactly how you described. I go and explore. There’s a lot less overall civilization and basically the same thing as 3 when it came to hyper simple factions. But my focus is always that exploration. It’s why I like Oblivion and Skyrim too. That same feel of wonder and awe of getting to explore something and not knowing what treasures or terrors you may find.
76 I played a very very small amount because I just don’t dig MMORPGs in general. Feels like my impact doesn’t change the world as much as you see it in single players. Can’t say much in the run of music or anything else there either. But I did like being able to wander around and find new things when I was first playing it.
And the music… yeah. Bingo bango bingo he don’t wanna leave the congo oh no no no no nooooooooooooooooooooo
Mental…people are just wet wipes but hey ho. Everyone’s entitled to whatever opinion they want, being able to communicate effectively and understand other opinions though is the kicker.
Oblivion and Skyrim are my G’s! I’ve spent so many hours on them and its exactly how I play them! Especially Skyrim, the wow factor does die after a while but I lowkey roleplay it sometimes and just go for a wander or a walk through an unknown fantasy universe wondering what’s beyond the corner. It makes it 10x more interesting and its how I think they should have marketed Fallout 4. 10x better as a exploration game than a RPG.
Maybe one day I’ll try 76, just to explore a new environment created by Bethesda but its not at the top of my list, same as ESO. Gave that up straight away. Ahhh yes the musiccc, brings me back
If you’re worried about it, bg3 will give you more bang for your buck. Easy to get near 100 hours in the first playthrough and it has a ton of replay value. 33 you’ll prob get 20-40 hours depending on side content you do and it doesn’t have much replay value.
Speaking as someone who loved both and got 100% achievements in 33. Should do both though.
I got about 30 hours doing most stuff. The thing is that there is more of the game after the story is done, about double the content or so i have read. I did not do that part myself so can’t say much about it.
Ironically much like BG3, the third act of E33 is a mess. There is a ton of important side content with character moments and lore, particularly relating to Clea but also the whole Maelle relationship quest. But the pacing is completely off, it’s all presented as optional and it just feels very rushed. A “Definitive Edition” type patch or DLC that retools and restructures Act 3 would do E33 a world of good.
For expedition? Side content about doubles the length of the game, and all of it is doable before completing the story. NG+ is a thing and massively cranks the level of all enemies, but nothing else changes
I’d make it depend on the length. Expedition 33 is shorter. So if you want an experience that you can finish quickly you should choose that. If you want to spend weeks to months on a game choose BG3.
Both are great. Maybe play E33 first and go to BG3 after that.
I love it! I don’t know why but game cartridges always had a much better feel to them than disks to me. Could just be nostalgia for the times, though. But I recently dug out my 3DS and there is just something so satisfying about the click of inserting a game.
Switch still have them. Of course now some publishers on Switch 2 are shitting on the very concept of cartridges by making empty carts that are just keys to download the game.
I completely and utterly loved both of those games, but if I had to choose I’d go with Baldurs Gate 3, simply because it gave me many many more hours of gameplay while keeping things fresh enough for multiple playthroughs and is very fun multiplayer with up to 4 people, though also fun single player. Expedition 33 is a lot of fun but strictly single player and for 1 playthrough, replays are just the same but a little harder.
Highly recommend both when you can, each will consume a nice part of your life
i think you just put into words my dislike of bg3, it feels like a group of teenage “theatre kid” annoyance. could get past meeting shadowheart (that name should have made it obvious i wouldnt enjoy the writing)
Honestly I feel bad for not enjoying it. I really do wish I could stand the energy that character interactions in that game give off but I just can’t. I had to mute the game several times, especially when Karlach was around.
The whole thing is just… Too much. And all the characters keep trying to fuck you, too?? It’s so uncomfortable, and very very “young adult fiction”.
I can tell the game was made with real passion, and I wish I could have enjoyed it more. I played like 60 hours I think and loved it until anybody opened their mouths 😂
The secret is to just kill or not recruit the annoying characters. I’ve played the entire story a few times and I always forget Karlach is in the game because I kill her every time. Astarion too, can’t stand the rogue stereotype.
That being said I did leave a negative Steam review for BG3 and I get made fun of for liking the game and not recommending it lol
That’s true, but I don’t want to miss out on gameplay just because the characters make me want to crawl out of my skin 😂 Astarion dies immediately for me too!
Yeah there are a lot of BG3 fans that are a bit unwilling to hear any criticism. Which is fine, they’re passionate about something they really love and they don’t need to hear my opinion 😅 You just kind of have to ignore a lot of them when you want to discuss the game.
Baldur’s Gate 3 hooked me. It was one of my favorite gaming experiences ever. I played through it two and a half times, consecutively.
I couldn’t get through Expedition 33. It’s very well done, but the story itself never hooked me. It just felt too abstract, like it never got me emotionally invested.
And the gameplay was too narrow. I’m sure it opened up after a while, but it would still be the same kind of turn based combat the whole time.
The story gets better, but it’s paced really weirdly and has some major issues. There’s a lot that’s not explained and the characters often just don’t react to what’s happening. The visuals and music are GORGEOUS though.
It just felt hard to relate to. The core premise is intriguing like I want to see where it goes, but it’s not intriguing like I feel personally invested in it.
Baldur’s Gate just had this perfect buildup, where you’re trying to solve a personal problem, and then it just keeps growing until you’re killing gods.
If you mostly play Souls games, I have to lean towards E33 due to the real-time parry mechanic. Both games are amazing and you won’t regret playing either.
You can replay any game, of course, but Clair Obscur’s gameplay is mostly on rails with basic JRPG combat repeated over and over again, so I wouldn’t bother. (Honestly, I found the gameplay boring within a dozen hours or so.) Its music is where it really shines. You could buy the soundtrack alone for a fraction of the price.
BG3’s atmosphere is good. The soundtrack is IMHO less inspired than Larian’s previous soundtrack and not really outstanding like the one in Clair Obsucr, but still decent. And as a game, BG3 has a lot more to offer.
Clair Obscur does technically have an NG+, though I’d say it’s less of a focus than in Souls games. There is, however, quite a bit of foreshadowing and pieces of the story that you won’t understand on your first playthrough but that hits different the second time through. I personally opted to consume it by watching others play after I completed my own first playthrough, but I’d say there is grounds enough for a second playthrough if that’s important to you.
If you’re strictly speaking about how many hours of playtime you will get out of it, than BG3. Both games are awesome though (in totally different ways).
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