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sculd, do gaming w What are signs that the game devs aren't gamers themselves?

The replies here feel more like “list of game features that I do not like”

IAmJacksRage,

It’s interesting to try to separate those two categories. Why else would a dev do those things unless they’re out of touch with actual gaming? I mean, adding a way to skip a cut scene is definitely not a budget issue.

sculd,

Probably priority? They have a tight deadline and skipping cut scenes is not a priority feature.

I have also seen game where dev deliberately ignore call for adding a skip scene button because they want their players to read the story. You can disagree with it but maybe the dev really think their cut scene is worth watching. That doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t play games, its just that they have high pride in their work.

I know the above is a controversial take. But I have no problem watching cut scenes if that is the dev’s intention.

theOneTrueSpoon,

It would be cool if they were smart about it. Like, make you watch a cutscene once, but if, say, the cutscene is just before a tough boss and you saved just before the cutscene, then if you lose to the boss and need to try again, you won’t have to watch the cutscene a second time. Especially if it’s a long one.

There should always be an option to pause a cut scene though.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Developer ≠ Management/C-Suite forcing implementation
(Does not apply to small-scale indie devs)

prole, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?

Rimworld is the answer.

neon_nova,

I actually have that game and have never even finished the tutorial. Would you recommend I just go blind or do I need to watch some How to video to get started?

prole,

You probably want to watch a “beginners guide” video or two. There are tons of amazing mods as well, but you probably want to just play vanilla first to learn the basics.

It can provide literally endless hours of entertainment. The game itself is a “story generator”, and every single game will be wildly different than the last, forever. That’s not even an exaggeration, it’s kind of ridiculous actually lol.

saigot,

And they are good stories for the most part too, is can still remember some of my storylines from a decade ago.

Itdidnttrickledown, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

If I wanted a console I would buy a console.

phar,

If you can get most of the games on PC, why would you buy an entire console? Just buy a controller and now you have a keyboard, mouse, And controller to cover all the different game types.

funkless_eck,

if I wanted to only play half my games at twice the price for only a few years on hardware i can’t upgrade with fewer functions and content due to exclusivity, I would buy a console

KiwiTB, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I use mine everyday. Best controller I’ve ever bought.

Zombiepirate, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

I still cry when I remember that they were clearing them out at $5 a pop. I’ll cling to mine until the day it dies.

transientpunk,
@transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bought three of them when they went on sale for $5

Stache_,

I remember seeing the headlines but they were already sold out when I went to look :(

Lv_InSaNe_vL,

I remember the couple of times you could pick up a controller and steam link for free. And my dumbass still didn’t do it :(

moonburster, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I have three. One still fully packaged for when the other two die

TabbsTheBat, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

The steam controller wasn’t for me (the lack of a 2nd stick and a d-pad to a lesser extent were dealbreakers for me), but I do hope valve releases a standalone steamdeck style controller :3 we had those leaks and whatnot a while back, and it certainly has everything I’d want

atomicpoet,

Yes, that’s the other thing: the trackpad D-pad is not as good as a button D-pad.

TabbsTheBat,
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

I love the touchpad as an auxiliary input, and in that regard it does a lot more than a d-pad, but for any games where you want it as a primary input it wasn’t optimal, yeah… currently I use a ds4 controller and having a touchbar on that is great with steam input tho, cause it can just do so much (looks at my 500 minecraft mods with all the keybinds), it can be annoying sometimes accidentally hitting the sticks cause of how it’s positioned tho (and also no paddles) so it would still be cool to see a steam deck type variant controller featuring the touchpads and all the other inputs you’d expect :3

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Same here. The thing was neat and innovative, but missing the dpad and right stick really brought it down significantly imo. The steam deck got it right - the trackpads are incredibly useful when used as a supplementary feature, but rarely as a full replacement for traditional inputs. Plus the form factor. Dear god the thing was MASSIVE. Incredibly uncomfortable to use and such an awkward shape.

Here’s hoping the leaks come to fruition, because a 2.0 version based on the Deck would be 10/10.

Buffalobuffalo,

I use a steam controller everyday and it feels like my first handjob every time. Given, or received.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

What a way with words LOL

I respect it but it’s not for me. It feels very defined for one hand size in particular, thing gives me cramps.

TropicalDingdong,
@TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world avatar

The steam deck controller addresses all of these issues. I was literally an anti-controller (wasd gang) zealot and the steam deck controller converted me because I can literally play city skylines in bed now…

TabbsTheBat,
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

Yeah :3. The steam deck layout honestly looks really good, and if valve does release a controller featuring everything it has it’s probably gonna be a buy from me

At the moment most of the controllers on the market would require either giving up the features my current one has, shelling out hundreds of euros for a couple of extra buttons, or literally getting the same deal, a steam deck style controller would offer quite a bit more and it would hopefully be more reasonably priced than the “pro” controllers

dualpad,

Unfortunately for steam controller users the touchpads were an downgrade in size, shape, and location for those who liked using them as their main inputs. So even people like me who use dual touchpads on the Steam Controller opted for joysticks on the Deck, since they weren’t satisfied with the touchpad experience.

Which was unfortunate, since there’s lot of options for dual joystick controllers but I’m still searching for a Steam Controller upgrade.

tankfox,

I’m glad at least someone else here had that feeling. I ended up not liking mine at all and sending it back. I couldn’t get used to the pads at all even though I wanted to like it a lot, maybe it’s just my hands. I use my steam deck all the time, first an led and now an oled, and I can count the times I’ve used the trackpads on it effectively on one hand.

Kichae, do gaming w What are signs that the game devs aren't gamers themselves?

Quick Time Events; characters that automatically do 60 things just by holding down “forward” on the joystick; the Ubisoft logo.

altkey,

Putting a QTE or a limited time choice in a long cutscene or a level segment.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Or a fake limited time choice, as in, the character speaks as if they have to act or choose quickly! But if you don’t press anything, they’ll just stand there in a dramatic pose. Or go ahead and act as if you pressed the button anyway (Saints Row 3 had those)

masterspace, do gaming w What are signs that the game devs aren't gamers themselves?

Can you bring up the pause menu at any point (including cut scenes).

I’ve always felt like a sign of a well polished game was one where the pause menu would work at any point, including during cutscenes.

HeerlijkeDrop,

Are there actually games that allow this?

luciole,
@luciole@beehaw.org avatar

Yakuza: Like a Dragon does this and I’m grateful.

brsrklf,

Bayonetta games do. Opens a specific pause menu with skipping option.

theangriestbird,

I seem to remember even FF7 allowing this.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Pretty sure Half Life 1 and 2 work that way, since the cutscenes happen entirely in game

Chronographs,

The worst is when the start button latently skips the cutscene with no confirmation/warning

Megaman_EXE,

Playing the metal gear collection and this immediately stood out. The cutscenes are long

RadioFreeArabia, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I prefer the Wii U Pro Controller, similar layout but with a proper d-pad. I got to have a proper d-pad.

technomad, do games w Day 356 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

Majora’s mask next?

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I considered it but then i made of the mistake of buying The Last of Us on sale and i can’t put it down

technomad,

Oh hell yeah, the last of us was amazing!

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I would love to get ahold of one for my PC. I’m hesitant to buy a used one though. Maybe one day Valve will make more or even better, make a SC2. Until then my PS5 controller will continue to serve me well

AutoPastry, do games w Day 356 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I really enjoy these posts and how much effort you put into it. AMA at 365 days?

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the first time i’ve heard an AMA as a suggestion, i’m not opposed to it though! I just can’t imagine their is many meaningful questions to ask though since all i really do is play video games lol

defaultusername, do games w Day 356 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

Never heard of it. Which person is Ocarina?

Also is this Ship of Harkinian?

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Yes! it is SoH. It’s my go to way to play the game besides the original hardware. That’s a headache to setup though so usually i default to SoH

comeonitsnotlike, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I’ve had one since the release 2015. The best controller and, unfortunately, the most worn out of em all. I really need a SC2. It still works just like the first day (well, better since it got software updates), but it’s so damn worn out. Fuck, I’m actually, seriously considering paying those crazy amounts people are selling them (HAS TO BE NEW!) for online. It’s sick how good it is.

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