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PapstJL4U, do games w Gachapwned: How gacha MMOs drown us in progression and randomness | Massively Overpowered
@PapstJL4U@lemmy.world avatar

Diablo 1 is at fault - and Diablo 2 the first kingpin. Even without progression tabs people were grinding and hoping for the High rune.

What’s kinda funny is thw fact buying progression (i.e. Items and runes) on thoses ‘illegal’ sites was more reasonable in price.

The only danger the current iteration of f2p games has, is the graphical fidelity.

In other aspects premium games are still better. We just need to teach the new generation, that there is more than f2p.

Agent_Karyo, (edited )
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Diablo 1 and 2 were totally fine. There was no trash monetiziation around them (haven’t played the remaster of D2, so can’t speak for it).

BlameTheAntifa, do games w Star Citizen’s new cash shop offerings provoked fresh pay-to-win and predatory monetization accusations | Massively Overpowered

Years ago they had certain components for sale, but removed them due to backlash. Given how unique the game is, I don’t mind this so long as everything is also available in-game. Being familiar with the game and how it works, this doesn’t seem “pay to win” to me.

2fm,

It’s not pay to win. You’re right. Spending big bucks on a big ship will still get oneself killed by a small ship earned in-game. People who call SC pay-to-win listened a bit to much to Derek Smart while sipping their Monster, snacking on Doritos, wonding how many days they have to wait for the next Call of Battlefield. Those people genuinely do not understand what kind of game it is, why money can be spent, and that not a single penny beyond a starter package even needs to be spent. Nearly everything bought with real money can also be bought in-game. The monies goes to support the project, its clear when you buy anything, and you get like a month to return no questions asked if you want to. Or return at ANYTIME for instore credits and swap to some other ship without spending anything new. The misrepresentation still blows my.mind to this day.

BlameTheAntifa,

I get where people’s angst comes from. It’s been in development forever, it’s made mind-boggling amounts of money, and the way promises have been routinely made and then broken erodes a huge amount of trust. I can’t blame anyone for thinking of it as “Scam Citizen.”

But despite all that, Chris Roberts has created something that nobody has ever seen before. Even in its current incomplete state, there has never been anything else remotely like it. Maybe it’s the buddhist in me, but I have had so much fun with the game over the years as-is, rather than being upset with what it’s not or what it’s supposed to be.

Comparing it to other “normal” games, the optics of buying stuff can definitely seem pay-to-win, but for anyone that had played it, it’s clear that’s not how things work. And since the game is early access and wipes have been so frequent until now, buying components at this stage is really just a bit of a time saver. You can save a day or two of playing to fund and source the components in-game. I don’t see the problem with that, especially if it keeps development progress moving.

Punchshark, do games w Star Citizen’s new cash shop offerings provoked fresh pay-to-win and predatory monetization accusations | Massively Overpowered
@Punchshark@lemmy.ca avatar

Did this game even release? I worked with a guy 10 years ago that invested heavily into this game and would always tell me “its about to be released”

illi,

In alpha I think? They have a playable version afaik, but not released, no. Can spend thousands on virtual ships tho

AnalogNotDigital,

Last I saw, Squadron 42 (the single player version of the game) is function complete and undergoing optimization, but SC the multiplayer game will never be finished in my mind.

Agent_Karyo, do games w Derek Smart unveils ACE Platform, a multi-blockchain ‘virtual town hall of engagement opportunities’ | Massively Overpowered
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Derek Smart

Derek Smart

Derek Smart

doctortofu,
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

DEREK SMART DESKTOP COMMANDER!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds

Also, how in hell did I even remember that after all these years…

johntash,

I don’t know how to feel about that video being 17 years old

Turbonics, do games w Star Citizen devs report drying funds, micromanagement, overspending, and episodic release for Squadron 42

Maybe they can get Elon Musk to take over the company and maximize the grift with an immersive VR promise.

echo64, do games w Final Fantasy XIV will launch on Xbox on March 21

whilst i’m happy for more people to have access to games, you really gotta wonder how many people are going to jump into this on xbox. It’s not no-one of course, but it’s not gonna be many

blackluster117,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

To be fair, they have a pretty large PS userbase and the game is very accessible through controller. I know I would’ve gotten onto it on Xbox if that was an option when I was still on console.

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Just an anecdote, but on the ffxiv subreddit and discords I lurk around there have been a LOT of xbox players going through the free trial for the first time. Considering you can play a lot for free and the series S being somewhat cheap, I can see this being a fair boon to the game.

Hyphlosion, (edited )
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

If FF XIV becomes available fully on Gamepass, I’ll definitely give it my time. Yes, I know about the trial and stuff. But I’m not going to pay a subscription to play the full game when I’m already paying for Gamepass. No thank you.

MIDItheKID,

You dropped an X.

I was really confused for a moment. With that said, FFIV is a great game and I had fun with the 3D remake. I never got around to playing “The After Years” though.

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

Woops my bad. The brain fog’s been real today.

Goronmon,

FFXIV will always require a subscription outside of the free trial. Game Pass will only give you the base game. But not all the expansions and only 30 days of playtime.

It’s still a subscription MMO.

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

I understand that, but I absolutely refuse to pay a subscription for a single game, no matter how good it is. Especially since I’m already paying for a Gamepass subscription.

That’s just how I roll.

Kit,

I have to imagine that it will be similar to when FFXI dropped on Xbox 360 after being a PC/PS2 exclusive for years. At that time, it increased the player base dramatically and introduced an entirely new demographic of player to the mmo. It really breathed new life into the game.

Carighan, do games w New World outlines a partial roadmap for the first few months of 2024
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting that they are still going at it. I had assumed that like many of Amazon’s gaming forays it had been quietly shelved.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

Same. The highlight of this game for me was the 5 minute conversation I had with a co-worker about it. Good times.

MrHandyMan, do games w New World outlines a partial roadmap for the first few months of 2024

What even happened to New World? It seemed like a relatively popular game when it came out, but then just disappeared.

Aquila,

Heard it was grindy AF

baascus,

Max level gear grind and absence of any endgame content.

simple,

I hear a bit from my friends that really enjoy the game, they play whenever a new update is out but there doesn’t seem to be that much content or staying power compared to most MMOs.

illi,

It was popular because it was big MMO launch bu cit was a mess that was best enjoyed from afar. Year after (when I started playing) it got better and I quite enjoyed it. It does some things extremely right (combat is fun, gathering is satisfying, it’s super pretty) but some aspects like questing is medicore.

I also feel like they still don’t really know what they are doing with it, it lacks vision from where I’m standing. I still hope it will somehow thrive though.

ParkedInReverse, do games w ‘We’re out of money’: Project Gorgon moves to part-time development to keep its server lights on | Massively Overpowered

I wish I knew of this title sooner. As soon as I watched the trailer, reading they’re Asheron’s Call devs, and seeing some similarities, I’ll pick it up just to throw some cash their way. AC was my jam and I still miss it.

sam,
@sam@lemmy.ca avatar

Honestly you’re really not too late. The game is still very active and I don’t think it’s going anywhere anytime soon.

ParkedInReverse,

That’s great to hear. I shared it with some others I know would enjoy it. Really looking forward to getting in.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever, do games w Ubisoft execs and employees arrested over sexual misconduct allegations

And this is why I am not playing any ubi game until Yves et al are gone (so probably when they get bought out)

It was incredibly obvious that senior management were protecting the abusers when this all kicked off. And more and more just keeps coming out.

reksas, do games w Star Citizen’s new cash shop offerings provoked fresh pay-to-win and predatory monetization accusations | Massively Overpowered

i have been waiting for long time for them to add enough content to be worth buying. If they are going this route, i guess i’ll forget about getting the damn game entirely

Kolanaki, do games w Derek Smart unveils ACE Platform, a multi-blockchain ‘virtual town hall of engagement opportunities’ | Massively Overpowered
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I remember seeing this idiot all over the Steam forums back in the day. I wouldn’t trust anything he makes even if it wasn’t blockchain related. His games suck, and he himself is a huge, arrogant asshole.

Phegan, do games w Derek Smart unveils ACE Platform, a multi-blockchain ‘virtual town hall of engagement opportunities’ | Massively Overpowered

No thank you.

einlander, do games w Daybreak bought Palia studio Singularity 6 and aims to bring the game to launch

They Daybreak Games. Rescuing games like EverQuest Next, H1z1:Just Survive, and Planetside.

bestnerd, do games w ‘We’re out of money’: Project Gorgon moves to part-time development to keep its server lights on | Massively Overpowered

Has anybody played this? I saw it a few years ago it looked like garbage, what’s changed?

kellperdog,

I played for a bit last year and I really enjoyed it. It’s a solid mmorpg for people that pine for the days before every mmorpg was “the next wow killer”. It’s also incredibly impressive that just a few people made it.

If you’re a fan of mmorpg’s from the last 20 years it’s probably not for you and that’s ok.

bestnerd,

I haven’t been a fan of the genre in a while since I’ve been so let down. I’ll check it out though cause I agree, I’m sick of the wow killer mmos. I’m excited for ashes and maybe my great grand kids can use my ATI ship for Star Citizen

sam,
@sam@lemmy.ca avatar

The graphics aren’t great and the combat is simple, but there’s a lot of depth to the gameplay. There’s a lot of lore and interesting things to explore in every corner of the game.

bestnerd,

Thanks! I’ll check it out this week. Hopefully this little studio can survive

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