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DigitalTraveler42, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

I thought this trailer looked fantastic, I don’t know what the rest of you all are smoking. As a fallout fan it was more than enough to get me excited for the series, also Walton Goggins as a ghoul chefs kiss.

MudMan,
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

Looks a bit cosplay-y, honestly.

But also I've never been into Bethesda Fallout, so I'm already not as much of a target for this one, I suppose.

micka190,

That was my impression too. The costumes and CG seemed a bit goofy to me. But then again, so did the original Witcher trailer, and that ended-up looking mostly fine when I actually watched it, so…

shrugs

steakmeout,

Yeah you’re right Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is where I think this show should’ve taken its design notes from.

reeen,

It’s west coast fallout by Bethesda, and I really don’t know how I expect them to handle the established material. I hope they do justice to what’s been written already

Zahille7,

I thought it looked pretty good.

That said, I thought the first few seconds right up until Dogmeat started eating the Radroach looked pretty mid. I got really psyched and excited when I saw the BoS power armor

ieightpi,

I’m with you. I was excited once I saw the first look photos. They took a lot of care with costume and set design

Son_of_dad,

People need to remember that fallout isn’t the last of Us or god of war, fallout is a cool series with a cool world, but it’s not a masterpiece of story telling and writing. These showrunners aren’t making Lord of the rings over here, it’s not gonna be hard to make a decent show based in an established world.

They’re keeping the aesthetic and design, so I’m happy. But so many people don’t have a nuanced opinion anymore, and a show is either a perfect 10 or it’s “unwatchable garbage”. I’ve seen and loved shows that I give a solid 8 to, but anything below a nine gets called “shit” these days.

dangblingus,

I mean, New Vegas is known as one of the best written RPGs of all time. So… there might be slightly higher than average expectations here.

Summzashi,

No it’s not lmao. It was good but it’s far from anything like that

GoodEye8,

What? It’s almost universally accepted that New Vegas is one of the greatest RPGs of all time. Go through any “top RPGs of all time” list and you’re pretty much guaranteed to find New Vegas there, usually in the top half of the list.

Summzashi,

Wow all the clickbait bot written top 10 list blogs put it in the top half!!!

Maybe broaden your horizon a bit. You’re missing out.

GoodEye8,

Those clickbait bot written posts have a bigger significance than your “No it’s not lmao”. I’m gonna side with the bots rather than some self-important contrarian.

Summzashi,

Ok. Enjoy your mediocrity. Ignorance is bliss after all.

GoodEye8,

Alright Mr. Important. Go on, enlighten me. Give me your top 30 greatest RPGs of all time, in any order.

Summzashi,

I can’t really think of a worse way to spend my time. Just go explore bro. If new Vegas is fantastic to you there’s a whole world of gold out there to find.

GoodEye8,

Go explore what exactly? That is literally what I was asking. What are those exceptional games that I’ve missed in my 20+ years of gaming that turn New Vegas into a turd? But if you can’t be bothered then just say you have shit taste and don’t know what you’re talking about and we can end it there.

Summzashi,

Haha, look at you. So angry because of some slight criticism of your little game. Is Fallout New Vegas with you in the room right now? Blink if you need help. For your sanity sake I want to point out I literally called it a good game. You can stop stomping your angry little feet now.

GoodEye8,

I’m doing fine. I already know you’ve got shit taste. All we can accomplish now is get you to also accept that you had shit taste.

Summzashi,

Grr so angry

GoodEye8,

So you’re one of those guys who has to get the last word? Somehow I’m not surprised.

Summzashi,

Why are you mad?

GoodEye8,

Because I’m talking to an AI. No intelligent thought, just words strung together to make a sentence. Really, your last 5 comments on this thread have literally no substance. You could’ve written “Goo Goo Gaga” every time and it would’ve been just as informative as what you actually wrote.

Summzashi,

Ok but what makes you so mad though?

GoodEye8,

There’s no reason to be mad so I’m not.

Summzashi,

Then why are you mad?

GoodEye8,

I just said I’m not

Summzashi,

Ok but why are you mad then?

GoodEye8,

Yes

Sigh_Bafanada,

Greatest action RPGs, perhaps. But even that has little bearing on TV show writing, since the important writing aspect of RPGs is the mass of options, not the actual writing itself.

Tikiporch,

It is not known.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

These showrunners aren’t making Lord of the rings over here

Of course not, Lord of the Rings already exists.

registrert,
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Well that didn’t stop Amazon from making them Rings of Power so don’t give anybody any ideas now.

Kage520,

We’ve had first Lord of the Rings, yes, but what about second Lord of the Rings?

nxdefiant,

I don’t want to set the world on fire.

But I will if they fuck this up.

CeeBee,

Where were you when we watched Rings of Power?

Where were you when we suffered Wheel of Time?

nxdefiant,

Ah, ok so I’m broken and don’t have to worry.

I loved both those things.

registrert,
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Then I assume you’ll enjoy the Fallout show no matter what. Did you watch HALO, and if you did - Did you enjoy it?

nxdefiant,

It’s sad they only made one episode of Halo. I’d have watched a whole series as good as e1.

registrert,
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Well said. And yet you enjoyed the mentioned series? You are an enigma my friend.

Morbius… Good, bad or morbin’ amazing?

nxdefiant,

I actually haven’t seen it!

Cavemanfreak,

Wheel of Time is not bad imo. At least not season 2. The thing with that series is that it’s not possible to adapt every single thing from 14 books to 8 seasons with 8 episodes. I went into it as a new turn of the Wheel, and while the first season didn’t do much for me, with the second one I can actually see the beginnings of something that can become really good. I’m cautiously optimistic about the coming seasons now.

CeeBee,

The thing with that series is that it’s not possible to adapt every single thing from 14 books to 8 seasons with 8 episodes.

Completely fair, but when they spend entire episodes on things that could have been easily and faithfully reduced to a 10 minute scene, or spent more than half of the first season on “who’s the dragon? it’s such a mystery!!” when that wasn’t even a plot point of the first book. It’s a fair argument, but not when they completely squandered their available screentime on frivolous things. At that point it’s just a cop-out.

I went into it as a new turn of the Wheel

I get this was the approach of a lot of viewers, but when you have to do personal mental gymnastics to justify liking the way the adaptation was done, then you’ve already admitted that it’s bad. And forget things like the order of events and such. I’m talking about radically changing the world rules, how the One Power works, and characters assassinations. Rand is supposed to be one of the most gentle and caring people alive. To the point that was slowly driving himself mad with trying to keep everyone safe and alive. The effort to do the right thing was breaking him inside and it’s one of the major aspects of his character. And then in the show he murders a guy to get into the hospital where Logain was living. Nope, I have no interest. I have the books and I can enjoy those.

MrScottyTay,

Rings of power was alright once you accepted it’s just a completely different adaptation with no connection to the previous films. And is also not being true to the books to a T. It’s far enough away from the events that I love in that world that I can separate it enough and still enjoy it.

I still would’ve preferred a more page by page adaptation of the Hobbit onwards though, especially the hobbit since it’s my favourite LOTR book.

CeeBee,

Rings of power was alright

No it isn’t. It’s terribly written. The speech of Sauron to Galadriel was something a five year old wrote. Galadriel just jumped into the middle of the ocean? Also she took a pyroclastic blast right to the face and doesn’t even have a scratch? Whereas other characters are fully blinded.

And all the changes, which each on their own might be forgivable, but there where just so many that it all added up to something off-feeling and weird. It would be like shifting each note in a Mozart piece by a little in different directions, and then listening to the whole thing wouldn’t be pleasant. This is another one of those things where they made changes for sake of change or to fit a particular story/reveal they wanted to write. Tolkien’s works were already a masterpiece, what was the benefit in changing it? At best it adds absolutely nothing to the final product itself, and at worse just makes the whole legendarium muddied and disjointed.

For example, when the show took place Aman was not cut off from Middle-Earth yet. Specifically because it was cut off after Sauron poisoned the hearts of the Numenoreans and convinced them to attack the Valar and invade Aman. As a punishment Eru Illuvitar sunk Numenor into the sea and made all of Middle-Earth “round”, so that sailing west would just bring them back around to the other side of Middle-Earth. So to get to Aman after that required sailing through a special path that only the Elves knew about, which is what we see in the show. But before the sinking of Numenor, anyone could sail west to Aman. And, IIRC, in the show we actually see a glimpse of Aman in the distance of one of the Numenorean ships. They regularly would see the shores of Aman in the far distance and wonder about it.

So if Aman was only reachable by the secret path, why could the Numenoreans see it from their ships? But in either case, this is a huge change in the lore and order of events. It might not matter to the casual viewer, but to fans of Tolkien (the people who are the hype-men for these kinds of stories, and generally the reason shows like this ultimately get green-lit) it doesn’t make sense and breaks the story.

MrScottyTay,

You might want to re-read what I said cause I agree with a lot of that. Accepting it’s so different that I don’t even consider it a part of lord of the rings is what allowed me to enjoy my time watching it.

CeeBee,

Sorry, I didn’t mean to shoot you down or anything. I just really didn’t like Rings of Power. There were things I did like, such as Durin and his wife (although all Durin’s are supposed to be black-haired). But overall I think it’s terrible.

Gigan, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

Cautiously optimistic. Hopefully it’s respectful to the source material.

ceenote, (edited )

It’s a very good setting for a show or mini series, but the way the IP’s current owners have handled it so far gives me pause. Hopefully the writers will be competent enough to not resort to the “radiation and mutations are basically magic” writing that’s been all too common with Bethesda.

Zahille7,

I mean we already saw mutants (NOT Super Mutants or Centaurs) in the form of Chris Parnell’s Overseer Cyclops in the trailer. The rest of the shots (especially the Yao Guai tearing up that Paladin) make me think it’ll be more lore-accurate.

Damage,

I mean, the way Bethesda has taken Fallout, there’s not much that could be ruined, just use a newish setting and go to town

Nobody, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

I didn’t realize Jonathan Nolan was a showrunner. The first season of Westworld was brilliant. And Walton Goggins is good in everything. I’ll give it a shot.

somegadgetguy,

Goggins is what got me on board too.

Assman, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can tell it’s gonna be bad because they forgot to say “war never changes”

littlecolt,

And where are the TUNNEL SNAKES??? HMMMM???

wafflez,

tunnel snakes rule

bfg9k,

We’re the tunnel snakes

That’s us

littlecolt,

And we rule! Rule! R-r-r-r-rule!

drmoose,
RampantParanoia2365,

In a tunnel?

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

I bet you that this will be in the show and narrated by Ron Perlman.

tegs_terry, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

What the fuck man where the hell did this spring up from? This just started a flame in my heart.

Zozano,

I don’t suppose in your heart you have but one desire?

mycatiskai,

Is that desire to light a flame in your heart instead of the whole world? You pyromaniac!

halfwaythere, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

Sweet! Well get a season or two and then they’ll cancel it just like they do all the rest of the fan favorites.

dvlsg,
@dvlsg@lemmy.world avatar

That feels more like a Netflix move than an Amazon move.

BeMoreCareful,

An expanse tear runs down my cheek.

CitizenKong,

I’m not sure how that’s meant? Expanse was saved by Amazon and allowed to have enough seasons to tell its story.

darth_helmet,

… you know it omitted the last three books, right?

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

And ended in the middle of an arc too, iirc.

sheogorath,

The last three books are after a time skip and with a new set of main characters, right?

chiliedogg,

There’s a 30-year time skip, but the characters are the same.

fsxylo, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

There’s not enough wackiness in the trailer. Fallout has always had a thin veneer of grimdark with a whole hidden iceberg of goofy bullshit and it was amazing.

I’m getting huge “missing the point” vibes.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

it’s a trailer, it also has to get the normis

EnderMB,

While i fully agree, a lot of people won’t know what Fallout is, and they kinda have to set the basics first.

With that being said, I question whether Amazon can pull this off.

drewofdoom,

There are a lot of reasons to not judge it yet. First and foremost, the director/show runner has zero input on the trailer. That’s all the marketing department, and the trailer is designed to get as many eyeballs as possible on the final product. Numerous examples exist of trailers which bared little resemblance to the movie/show/game/whatever.

Secondly, they buried the lead on the director. Jonathan Nolan did direct much of Westworld. But he also wrote a bunch of award winning films for his brother, Christopher Nolan. Movies like Memento, Interstellar, The Prestige, and Dark Knight. He’s no slouch, and I’ll reserve judgement until I see it.

treesapx,

To back you up, the first Doom Patrol trailers did little justice to how weird that show is.

ours,

J. Nolan also did “Person of Interest”. It’s a lesser-known show but it was very good.

It felt like a classic 80s show at first(the hero is a badass supported by an eccentric rich guy to help random people) but, without spoiling it, it takes a very interesting turn.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

so the cyclops overseer drinking a moldy cup isnt wacky at all?

healer_56, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

guess i will watch it. lets hope its not complete shit

avater, (edited )
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

the trailer looks great and really has that fallout spirit somewhere between funny, gruesome and batshit crazy.

Also great to see Walton Goggins in the cast, he’s a great actor

li10,

I’m on a strict “don’t trust trailers” diet since seeing the new Napoleon film, so I’ll wait and see for this series.

Komatik,

What do you mean ? Is Napoleon shit; I haven’t seen it yet?

Please 🙏 don’t be shit

nico,
@nico@lepoulsdumonde.com avatar

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  • Hyperreality,

    'Excuse me, mate, were you there? No? Well, shut the f*** up then.’

    • Ridley Scott
    Komatik,

    So your saying that its good but not historically accurate. I love history but I can enjoy historical fiction just as much.

    li10,

    I thought it was bad tbh

    Didn’t like that it wasn’t historically accurate, but even looking past that it was just boring imo

    CrabAndBroom,

    I haven’t seen it yet, but one review said it was one of the most unintentionally funny movies of the year.

    Also Ridley Scott is doing a hilarious press tour for it.

    Scott was informed of some less than stellar French reviews of his film – French GQ called it “deeply clumsy” and “unintentionally funny” – to which Scott replied with the following solid gold banger: “The French don’t even like themselves.”

    But don’t think that insulting an entire country is enough for Scott. Speaking to the Sunday Times’s Jonathan Dean last weekend, he also reserved some ire for historians, some of whom have suggested that Napoleon might not be the most rigorously accurate film ever made. Scott responded by addressing the entire historian community. “Excuse me, mate, were you there?” he raged. “No? Well, shut the fuck up then.”

    QuantumSparkles,

    I love Goggins, this is a perfect universe for his style honestly

    ComradeBunnie,
    @ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone avatar

    He was fantastic in Righteous Gemstones.

    Let’s play Baby Billy’s Bible Bonkers!

    arudesalad,

    They’re going to find a way to release the films with bugs and release a day one patch

    timdave, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer

    How do you mod a TV show?

    DAMunzy,

    Don’t worry, Toddyboy is on the case!

    bridge_too_close, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer
    @bridge_too_close@kbin.social avatar

    I don't want to get my hopes up, but I'm getting my hopes up.

    EeeDawg101,

    My hopes have definitely gone up after seeing this trailer. I really hope they don’t pull a Witcher.

    Kaldo, do gaming w Bloodlines 2 - Official Announcement Trailer
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    There's like a 5% chance of this actually turning out good but god damn, I'm so ready to roll the dice and see what happens.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

    So you're saying this only succeeds with a natural 20?

    TowardsTheFuture,

    No no, it only succeeds on 4 success and you’ve got 6d10 to roll. If only they’d had more dots in intelligence or expression.

    anarchy79, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh no… The time has come to shit all over two legendary games again… for the second time.

    BigDaddySlim, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer
    @BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean it can’t be worse than the Halo show, at least this looks decent from the trailer.

    Can guarantee it’ll be better than getting mauled by a Deathclaw either way.

    thorbot,

    We don’t talk about that show

    Gregu, do games w Fallout TV Show - Teaser Trailer
    @Gregu@lemmy.ca avatar

    Honestly I can’t wait to watch this. Consider me hyped!

    Eheran, do pcgaming w The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility - Gamers Nexus

    What do people like about that character? When I saw him years ago he was clueless regarding technical details and somewhat childish. Did that change?

    agressivelyPassive,

    It’s entertainment. I think hardly anyone actually watches guys videos because of the details - which are often enough irrelevant anyways.

    steal_your_face,
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    I think a lot of people look to LTT for guidance on PC components and trust their conclusions even though they’re not as technical as something like gamers nexus.

    Hello_there,

    People just want to answer the question: what gets me more fps" - or "should I get this one on sale? Or go for the more expensive version?"

    Elderos,

    They’re making mistakes on this kind of stuff.

    NightOwl,

    I don’t think that is the case anymore. Saw a comment in an unrelated thread of someone talking up how LTT takes the time to make sure their sponsors are trustworthy in response to someone saying to not trusted whatever products youtubers shill in sponsored segments.

    So there is a number of people who do see LTT as a respectable and honest outlet that takes their recommendations seriously.

    Eheran,

    With details you mean the actual tests and what not? If that is the case, I highly doubt it. LTT is even quoted/referenced/talked about by people like Dave from EEVBlog.

    agressivelyPassive,

    I can’t really judge the tests, I know too little about them. My point was rather that these tests are not really relevant to 99% of buyers. If, for example, GPU A is 3.5% faster than B, but costs 5% more, but also draws 5% more power, is that really a relevant information for a gamer?

    flower3,

    Yes

    agressivelyPassive,

    If you think that, you don’t understand how statistics and computers work.

    flower3,

    I guess you don’t understand how gamers think.

    BudgieMania,

    I think it's mostly a "be first, be smart, or cheat" situation, and he was first.

    By the time the other productions overtook them in quality, LTT was already established enough to not get affected I guess.

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