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MossyFeathers, do games w What are your favorite racing games?
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

TrackMania – I recommend Nations Forever if you’re starting out; it’s free and Nations was the “meta” environment (different environments have different physics) for a long time, so there’s a fuckton of custom content for it.

As for what it is: it’s like the racing genre’s Quake equivalent. It’s also like super hot wheels. And it’s like Mario Maker. You make all kinds of crazy tracks with it, like Mario Maker. The tracks feature all kinds of wall rides, half-pipes, jumps, loops, and so on, with nothing more than inertia holding you to the track; like hot wheels. And finally, like Quake (and Mario Maker), the high-level players are bat shit insane.

This is the game where you get people who can hit a jump at just the right angle so they thread the needle through a series of holes barely larger than the car while travelling at speeds well above 300mph (welcome to TrackMania, I don’t think there’s a speed cap). They also do it using keyboards. Seriously. High-level TrackMania players use keyboards, not gamepads or, god forbid, racing wheels.

All of that said, no pressure because you’re mainly racing yourself, even in multiplayer. You’re trying to get the best time on a track, and multiplayer is basically the same, except your time is being compared with everyone else’s. There isn’t even any vehicle collision (strangely, there’s an option for it, but it doesn’t seem to do anything).

Play TrackMania. Is fun.

stealth_cookies,

Seconding Trackmania, though I’d recommend playing the latest one released in 2020 rather than Nations Forever. A year’s access to everything is $20 and you get tons of content to play.

For a game that is at its core can be played at the highest levels with just 4 buttons it is incredibly complex with an insane skill ceiling. I’m pretty good and the difference between me and the top players is absolutely insane. The game is a bit beginner unfriendly, mostly because you are going to suck against good players because there are tons of mechanics that the developer tells you nothing about and unless you watch a video you aren’t likely to understand why players are leaving you in the dust.

This is the game where you get people who can hit a jump at just the right angle so they thread the needle through a series of holes barely larger than the car while travelling at speeds well above 300mph (welcome to TrackMania, I don’t think there’s a speed cap). They also do it using keyboards. Seriously. High-level TrackMania players use keyboards, not gamepads or, god forbid, racing wheels.

The max speed is 999 km/h, which is only acheivable with speed drifting, but speed in excess of 800km/h are not uncommon to hit in certain kinds of tracks. Your statement about controls also isn’t correct, most of the top players play with controller, but there are some that are keyboard players, there is even a couple insane ones that play wheel (most notably Granady).

MossyFeathers, (edited )
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Huh, I was under the impression that high level players used keyboards and that gamepads were unusual. I was almost certain I’d read that keyboards were considered better because they were full-on/full-off instead of analog; the logic being that it let you respond faster. Where an analog stick would have some ramp-up time when you switch directions, a keyboard would register a full press the moment the key is pressed far enough to complete the circuit. Meanwhile, the physics of Nations were made with keyboards in mind, so analog controls wouldn’t offer that much of an improvement.

At least, I was sure that’s what I’d read.

Edit: that may have been before TrackMania 2, I’m not even sure if Nations supports analog controls. I haven’t played any of the games after Nations/United.

And009,

Growing up I’ve always been a keyboard racer. The only benefit i see from gamepad is that you can hold any angle while turning, even slight ones.

With keyboard every movement is timing and it’s easier to build muscle memory for me.

Edit: the reason I want a vr headset and racing wheel are the opposite of what keyboard gaming is

stealth_cookies,

There are advantages and disadvantages to all the control schemes depending on the types of tracks you play, the surface you play, and the car/environment you play.

Most good players play with controller because there are many situations you run into where you want the precision of steering a specific amount around a corner, or you are playing a track where you want to either speed drift (SD) at a specific angle (e.g. fullspeed or higher speed dirt/grass/plastic) or want to keep your steering under a certain angle to no slide (e.g. low speed dirt/grass/plastic).

There are techniques such as neosliding where it is much easier to do them in keyboard as it requires multiple taps in quick succession. It is also easier to play keyboard when you need to make turns where timing of a full steer is important (e.g. ice).

Considering cars other than the stadium car you start getting into situations where one control scheme is far superior than others. The snow and rally environments require smooth steering so wheel is superior there, but controllers are a good middle ground. Desert is faster with tapping movements over smooth steering so keyboard is a bit better there. I recall canyon is a bit better with keyboard as well.

This all applies equally regardless of whether you are playing older or newer games.

MossyFeathers, (edited )
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I was curious enough that I looked into it a bit and it sounds like the difference is negligible at this point because they added keyboard binds for partial presses in response to analog keyboards(?). Again, I haven’t played TM2 or anything after, last game I played was TMUF/TMNF, so I haven’t tried using them myself, however when I was looking to see what the kb/controller/wheel split was I found a lot of people saying that there isn’t a strong reason to use one over the other anymore due to the new binds.

Edit: it actually makes me kinda happy to talk about this. I loved the games as a teenager, but they were too niche and I never had anyone to talk to about them.

Edit 2: damn, I remember finding the OG game at Fry’s and thinking it looked like the coolest game ever and getting confused when no one else thought it was sick as fuck (everyone was into Halo and CoD, and tbf, I was into them too; but I had patrician tastes that spanned multiple genres, not like the casuals I grew up around u.u)

stealth_cookies,

Yeah they added “action keys” that can trigger different percentage presses (20-40-60-80-100%) as a “fix” because the bobsleigh blocks they added in the new game were not keyboard friendly and they wanted to even the playing field. They eventually changed the physics to get rid of that specific need (but not completely) but they are still useful in some situations.

Download the newest game! It has a free access tier which gets you access to the first 10 tracks of the quarterly campaign and to the ranked mode. It is a bit limited but enough to see if you might get back into it. There is a decent community on reddit for the game.

Localhorst86,

High-level TrackMania players use keyboards, not gamepads or, god forbid, racing wheels.

It’s wild to me that some players like GranaDyy are actually able to compete using a racing wheel.

Feathercrown, do games w Why is the community for Honkai Star Rail and Genshin Impact like this?

Average anime community

It’s because these games sell their characters on sex appeal

QubaXR, do games w Launch dates for upcoming Xbox games
@QubaXR@lemmy.world avatar

Truly, a lineup worthy of all these Billions of dollars spent in acquisitions and thousands of lives fucked with layoffs.

ech, do gaming w GTA: Vice City Remastered

He even has the same amount of pixels.

snekerpimp, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2

Have they reinstated the games back in the 177 countries they delisted it in? Can those people who paid for the game still play it?

TheDonkerZ,
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Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: The access hadn’t been removed yet, as the update that would enable account linking wasn’t pushed yet. As for the Steam side, I’m pretty sure people who already had the game installed should’ve had access still, although updates and general unsureness definitely could be obstacles. With this tweet, however, the update is no longer coming, and were just waiting for Sony/Valve to lift the selling/installing restrictions in those countries.

Codilingus,

Steam only removes games from the store, and doesn’t remove games from anyone’s library. Those affected people, if they didn’t refund, will still have HD2 in their library. There is also never install restrictions/blocking.

Mikelius, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2

Nice! Guess I can add it back to my wishlist and consider buying it soon! Been holding off on it too long

copd,

“too long”? The game is 4 months old.

Hot take, don’t buy any games which were only released in the last 12 months. Matured games are far more stable

I remember when people on this site were saying Helldivers was already GOTY back on release week, hilarious.

If it wins after this situation, it’s definitely not the players choice.

fartsparkles,
Ethalis,

I’d agree with this statement for most games, but the best way to enjoy Helldivers 2 specifically is to play it when the playerbase and the hype is at its peak. The gameplay will still be just as good a year from now, sure, but you’d miss the emergent story being built right now

copd,

I won’t miss out on any gameplay story by waiting a year. I have a core set of friends, we’ll do just fine in a years time.

The only thing I’m missing out on is this dramatic period of instability

Ethalis,

Sure, not trying to tell you how to enjoy your games at all! I was just explaining why people would want to play this specific game closer to launch rather than later

Mikelius,

Agreed! I was just mostly showing my gratitude to the people fighting Sony and my relief that I can get a chance to play, didn’t mean for my message to be taken literal on the “too long” part lol.

That being said, my reasoning for wanting to play it soon is that I’ve got a few friends who are all now interested in picking it up… I’d rather enjoy the time to play with them now then not be able to play it with them in a year when they’ve moved onto something else.

UserMeNever, do gaming w They're often much older if I'm emulating

Tiberian Sun, The first time I played it my PC could barely play it. That was some 24 years ago?! Now the maps load in 2 seconds. Still crashes alot.

aeronmelon,

That feel when game studios made beautiful loading screens but now you don’t get the time to enjoy them.

Kerb,
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time for the return of the “turbo” button i guess

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

I am enjoying the Red Alert series. Rules.ini for the win!

menemen, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe I am old, but having no micro-payment bullshit is what made gaming better.

smeg,

Never been to an arcade, eh?

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but Arcades are Arcades. They were also not really a thing in Germany (because they are 18+ in Germany). I only ever used them on vacations.

smeg,

My point is that they are representative of how gaming used to be. Good on Germany for treating addiction-based money-extractors as what they are though!

uienia,

Not really a microtransaction as much as a leasing payment

smeg,

I’d say they’re both microtransactions, just one is full-on pay-to-play

Cocodapuf,

You could buy most of those games for console though…

smeg,

Not before consoles existed you couldn’t!

Honytawk,

The cheap downgraded version, yes

Swedneck,
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there are plenty of modern games without micropayments, play smaller indie titles.

Blackmist,

Or indeed some bigger games not from shitty publishers.

God of War, for example. A lot of Sony’s exclusives (and many are now on PC) are completely MTX-free. Even EA’s It Takes Two was free of them.

The issue is that they don’t make the return on investment that an exploitative multiplayer game does. So the big publishers prefer to make those.

Pika, (edited )
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It takes two is actually one step further, only one player had to own the game. It takes two had what was called a friend pass which as long as you weren’t the host of the game allowed you to play with any other player that had already purchased the game. So despite the fact that it was forced Co-op either split screen or online, only one player had to actually buy the game.

In this day and age it blew me away when I learned that because it’s just unheard of now.

FunkyMonk, do gaming w This is why god invented transmog

Forbidden west did have allot of that, I get purple grade weapons to gear up for quest and it rewards me with the same weapon 2 tiers lower than the shop in town.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Borderlands did that shit too

RGB3x3,

Is there a game that will analyze the weapons you’re using before doing a random drop so that the 10 minute boss battle has at least some semblance of a reward?

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

The closest I know of is games scaling rewards to your character level. Oblivion did that in an incredibly bad way.

BallsandBayonets,

Since they also scaled enemies. Always funny to be attacked by random bandits wearing the super-rare and powerful glass armor.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

It also scaled unique items. That cool glass sword with the frost damage enchantment and unique blue glass texture? Its strength entirely depends on what level you were when you finished the quest that rewards it. Unenchanted standard weapons would usually outclass it in maybe two hours.

lud,

Borderlands also does that.

dev_null,

In Vermintide when you open a crate (the primary reward for doing things in-game), what is inside is based on what you already have, so even though everything rewards you with the “same” crate, you always get better and better gear from them.

FunkyMonk,

Borderlands I would spend 6 hours until I find a gun that didn't spend more time reloading than shooting and pray it doesn't fall under the level curve for a few minuets. Love that game in principal but so many shit guns with the RNG system.

johannesvanderwhales,

And even if the equipment was better, you might have to do several levels of upgrades first. I wasn’t a real fan of the equipment in forbidden west.

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

The equipment was legit the reason I quit playing. That and the difficulty. I was able to 100% the first game and the DLC on the hardest difficulty. I had to take the second game down to easy mode in the bulwark melee pit. That was the first time I ever came close to breaking a controller. I genuinely don’t believe that the developers actually playtested the game.

lingh0e,

You gotta start maximizing your coils, yo. I was one shotting bad guys left and right with a couple high level impact damage coils on otherwise mediocre sharpshot bows.

FunkyMonk,

yeah it's not that the game is hard it's more than most of the rewards and unrewarding and I end up buying most of my best gear instead of being quest gifted it.

therealjcdenton, do gaming w What was Capcom thinking?

See if there wasn’t only online and Denuvo I would be able to mod that shit out. But because it has Denuvo I will wait until someone cracks it then pirate it so I can mod what features they pay walled to play how it was intended to be played by the honest developers

theUnlikely,

Is Empress still the only human capable of cracking Denuvo?

TommySalami,

I don’t think she’s the only one able, just willing. Isn’t there still someone who consistently cracks Madden games or something similar? Also fitgirl maybe, but I think that’s just repack stuff.

h3rm17,

Yeah, fitgirl does not crack

TommySalami,

Does she still do Denuvo games? I know she doesn’t work with Empress anymore, so there must be somebody cracking those for the repack if so

Dumbkid,
@Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Shrug mods seemed to work for me, got 999 portcrystals and metamorphosis books and didn’t get banned, should be good now. The re engine is super easy to modify

Huschke,

and didn’t get banned

Yet.

Dumbkid,
@Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ill update here if I do, only had to modify my game the once so I won’t have to mess with it again

JustZ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Just say “argh, matey.” Don’t need to gussy it up.

CliveRosfield, do gaming w What was Capcom thinking?

Glad I didn’t preorder. Gonna hope for the pc modding community to unfuck the game

CyanFen,

They’ll have to remove denuvo first, which isn’t likely

snugglesthefalse,

Depends on the popularity of the game

WildlyCanadian,
@WildlyCanadian@lemmy.ca avatar

Wtf is the point of anti-cheat in a single player game? Fuck Capcom, not buying anything they put out anymore. Been wanting to play Dragons Dogma 1, since I already own it, but now I don’t even want to give them the player stat.

CyanFen,

Denuvo isn’t anti-cheat. It’s anti-piracy

WildlyCanadian,
@WildlyCanadian@lemmy.ca avatar

Ah I see, all the same shit to me. Throw it in the bin pls. Definitely more understandable for a single player game tho

LucidNightmare,

For mods? They’ve already got some… denuvo has no bearing on modding.

DaBabyAteMaDingo,

Why are you guys pre-ordering. That behavior enables this type of greed. Promise me you won’t pre-order a game ever again, okay? I don’t care how cool that cheap plastic toy and paper map stuffed in a tin can looks. No more!

CliveRosfield,

Nah, I’m gonna keep preordering games I know I’ll like

PumaStoleMyBluff, do games w What game fits this?

Clearly this is just Vim being launched through Steam.

dumpsterlid,

Maybe you should :q your attitude

Im_old,

:q!

dumpsterlid,

sudo vim /chumps/bin/lm_old

gg

dG

:wq

Im_old,

I’m not familiar with gg and dG commands, and when I try them on a text file in vi it says they are not valid command. What should they do? (maybe they are specific to vim, but I only have vi, it came with the os and it’s good enough for me).

Also, :x is WAAAAYYY faster (lol) than :wq 😛

dumpsterlid,

Sorry I use them all the time on your mum I figured you would have known

Im_old,

Why? I’m not my mum. Looks like you are not even good at explaining the jokes. Not a surprise, she was not impressed either.

dumpsterlid, (edited )

What!? Are you serious? She texted me later and said “Don’t bother coming over again” and I honestly took it as having satisfied her so thoroughly that all she needed was one time with me!?

Also in vim “gg” navigates to the beginning of a document (remember it as the opposite of “good game”, you are at the beginning). “dG” deletes to G the end of the document, G being the opposite command to gg in that it brings you to the end of a document.

:wq of course means write and quit

Im_old,

TIL. Even you can be useful sometimes.

:x is still faster than :wq

dumpsterlid,

I use emacs anyways, pshh why did you think I even cared, nerd.

Ok yeah I mean I use evil bindings but I don’t need to fumble around with practically analog equipment like :wq and :x

…alright fine I just use stock spacemacs, someone let me into the wizard school and it is amazing but literally everyone else here knows to do magic and the most I have done is make a frog balloon up twice it’s size. I have to keep pretending like I am working on these massive architectures of spell books to influence weather systems in a way that takes dynamic inputs from remote wizard servers in towers…. and honestly I just love org mode in a pretty package that works well out of the box. …most of the gravestones here are dedicated to a great wizard known as Dotfile and I have NO idea who he is.

Don’t tell anyone or they will find me and run me out of the gates.

hperrin, do gaming w I don't know if I have the strength to do it

I even have a hard time killing the nazi dogs in Wolfenstein. It’s not his fault he’s a nazi dog. He’s just trying to be a good boy, and his owner is a fucking nazi.

saltesc,

Just pretend it’s a tranq gun and once the mission’s done, they’re collected by dog behavioural therapists to undo the brainwashing and, in time, be collected by a family that will show them what it is to love and be loved.

Pelicanen,

I want to note that the dogs aren’t actually nazis, they don’t have an ideology, they just want to be good boys.

ericbomb, do gaming w Most reasonable gaming convo

I’m not throwing, I’m just bad.

Stamets,
@Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

Had this conversation with someone on World of Warships the other day…

ericbomb,

Aiming and moving in that game is purposefully a nightmare, you’d think people would have a little sympathy!

Stamets,
@Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, really? I never had that issue personally. I just kept forgetting to check my surroundings. I’d targetfocus and then forget that there was either other enemies heading straight for me or wouldn’t check the map and would crash into an ally.

I’m not a smart man.

hansl,

“And I don’t have the money to compensate my lack of skill.”

hperrin, do gaming w The rainbows are nice...

My super gay PC is better than all consoles because it’s in a same-sex relationship with the toaster. The microwave is a republican, though, so there’s a lot of tension in the kitchen. I’m looking into getting a new microwave that’s less bigoted.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Buy an LG microwave with Bluetooth connectivity

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