8gb is probably a bit too small for most photorealistic style games at maximum settings, but maybe they should introduce optional games asset support to steam. No point downloading the full resolution textures if you’re playing on low texture settings.
Yeah, alot of games in their own launchers have that option, but bought through steam don’t, steam needs a clean way of supporting multiple install formats, I guess.
Halo lets you choose to not install the 4k textures in steam? And they use the dlc system to present that option? That doesn’t sound like it would be super clear. But I’ll check it out and see. Which halo?
Ok, yeah. That’s reasonably clear. More games should take advantage of that. It could probably also still be done similar to how other launchers do it too, but looks like the DLC system can at least handle it for now. Honestly, it’s better that it’s an opt-in system than an opt-out. Very few people still tend to play games at a resolution and with hardware that truly benefits from having textures set to ultra. Especially for competitive shooters, since hitting your monitors max refresh is more important. The hardware to hit 200+fps at 4k with ultra textures is basically only the people whose videocard cost more than the rest of the computer combined, likely double.
I Highly, highly recommend Against the Storm if nobody has played it yet. Fantastic city builder roguelike with a gorgeous atmosphere and interesting world.
to be fair, the 4k textures etc take up most of the space in large 3d games. valheim has a low poly and low quality textures style with a lot of repeats. it only looks good thanks to lighting.
with such a design choice you have an unfair advantage over photorealism and large variety.
we should however compare different games of the same style. did they use the 8k ulta detailed Hamburger models or did they actually think about Ressource and space management ?
It’s also, as tons of people have said about the Arkham series, about art style. The Valheim style looks really good because they have incredible artists working on the game.
Just like Arkham Knight is still one of the best looking games I’ve ever seen even though it’s almost 9 years old, Valheim will still probably look just as good the same amount of time later.
I agree. We’re not the first ones to point it out, but theres a strong argument to be made for graphical style over graphical fidelity. Working to achieve a particular stylised choice tends to give a visual medium greater longevity.
There’s a reason why people remember details about Jurassic Park over something like Avatar; or Star Fox over the latest Call of Duty.
Technology has made some things look better over the years, but the things that really get remembered visually are the style choices.
Just because one game takes up a quarter of your hard drive doesn’t make it more impressive than a sub 1 GB game.
On the + side, this keep HDD sales up, which would otherwise have dropped low enough for most consumer facing markets to shut down long before the rise of home made NAS devices
I was shocked to find out that Balatro was like 80 MB to download. You don’t need million-poly models and 8k textures to make an really good game. Granted, yeah it’s a 2D game, but it’s a beautifully-presented one.
Games like that have nothing to prove. The product speaks for itself.
Meanwhile, games that take up 300gb of your disk often do this purposefully. In the case of console games, they know it will monopolize your system. The game usually isn’t even enjoyable, but it’s too big to delete randomly, so you gaslight yourself into committing to it
Aka: CoD. I honestly still don’t understand how people can justify to themselves the $70 price point for each game, or the sheer ridiculous size of the fucking thing. It’s gotta be mental gymnastics, right? Are they really that good that people will overlook the bullshit like shitty launchers and Warzone bleeding into how the games play nowadays?
each cod game also costs around 450 million dollars to make, so i can’t help but imagine that some of the file size bloat is caused by a need to “justify” the budget in some way. because as we all know, 300gb games have so much more game when compared to a measly 60gb game. you won’t be getting dynamically sized horse balls in a game that only takes up 60gb.
it’s 120gb which is less than i was expecting but still way too much. i have no idea what the call of duty games could possibly be doing to justify 240gb. its utterly insane. that’s more than like 4,500 times the size of quake 1.
Liibraries with their dependencies can take up a fair bit of that space easily these days. I dunno how many would be used in a game like that but that’d be my guess for the space needed.
Absolutely not. Compiled code is small, really small. I’d be surprised if the engine* itself as a whole was more than a gigabyte in size. It’s all about the assets that are included, how badly they’re compressed and how uselessly detailed some of them are.
*The embedded one of course. The editors are unruly beasts that’ll guzzle up your disk space, but then again it’s probably a similar situation…
We’re only talking about 80MB though, at work just the core Grape City Active Reports dlls are 32MB that’s not even including the dependencies (everything seems to use extra system. Dlls on windows). A simple aspx web forms project I’m looking at with maybe 1MB images is still 120MB, granted it’s not optimized or anything and 32MB is from Active Reports
Oops I’m stupid. I didn’t notice this was about Balatro, I lost track of the comment indentation and thought it was a general discussion. Yeah it’s probably the runtime and the other stuff then, my bad…
Going against the grain here but I’d like to see a mod or DLC that changes pixel-art to vector art or something. Or maybe something like Windows 7 Solitaire?🤞
Downloaded factorio yesterday at a wopping ~1.5 gig
What game is this?
Have noticed western devs typically can’t reduce file size for shit. Something like killing floor 2 is 97 gigs and elden ring (last i looked) was under 50
In relation to Western devs, I think this is essentially just that it’s easy to just pile in more assets, but it can be tricky slimming down again, because you need to be certain that something really isn’t used before removing it. So many games never get around to the slimming down part, also because it isn’t really directly profitable to them…
I will highlight 1 case though. Hitman 2 was 149 gig, and included the levels for Hitman 1 and 2. But Hitman 3 was slimmed down to 60 gigs while including all of the content from Hitman 1, 2, and 3.
The first section of my disc box was for demos. The rest for games. The games sometimes got overwritten, but the demos never got sacrificed, because those were hard to get.
These days I just go to pouet.net and watch the YouTube clips. I know, it’s a ridiculous procedure to stream megabytes of video to watch a 100kb demo run, but I just can’t be bothered to make my pc run anything by itself anymore.
Back in high school i had a floppy with an NES emulator and several games. Was able to play nes game on school computers. Never got caught doing that lol
Active development, amazing and customizable controls (seriously, is you’ve ever been frustrated fighting controls in an RTS, they’ve thought of solutions), and an extensive campaign that serves as a unit tutorial (not the most engaging story is my only regret).
When it comes to controls, the number one thing I’m looking for is controller support, but I don’t see the tag there. I don’t suppose they’re supported and just not listed?
I keep hearing about ZeroK and Beyond All-Reason. What are the major differences between the two and how do these compare with Sup Com FAF, TA and such?
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