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  • Leate_Wonceslace, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
    @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I actually like Final Fantasy 2.

    wazzupdog,

    I liked FF1. It’s actually one of my favorite nes games.

    BradleyUffner,

    Are you using the US or the Japanese numbering? US 2 was pretty good. Japanese 2 was still super early and closer to 1, so not very complex. I found that one to be fairly dull.

    Leate_Wonceslace,
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    I don’t like FF4. There’s little to no agency and the story is lacking. I don’t understand why so many people like it.

    BradleyUffner,

    It falls into the style of RPG that is more like reading a book than having freedom to do whatever you want. Some people really like that story aspect.

    Piemanding,

    FF1 was actually the only one I almost finished.

    zod000,

    I did as well, reminds me of the early Saga games (Final Fantasy Legend series on Gameboy in the US).

    Bombastion,

    I have an irrational fondness for it. The stat leveling mechanic is real double-edged sword, though.

    Unless we’re talking about 2/4 (with Cecil as the main character), in which case that one’s just an absolute banger, no notes.

    Blackmist, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    I played The Witcher 1 over ten years ago.

    Great story and even better ideas about consequences, but even then it was a rough gameplay experience.

    It makes more sense when you realise it was originally going to be a PC port of Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance, but it leads to this awkward mix of gameplay styles that are hard to grasp at first. There’s really not much to the combat other than clicking when the icon glows and moving.

    The hardest fight in the game is a dog very early on, which you can cheese by stunning it with Aard (RNG based iirc) and landing a one hit finisher, but the fact that there’s an unskippable lengthy cutscene right before it is absolutely obnoxious. And fighting something two levels above you is a death sentence, leading to a bit of exploring to get enough XP to be able to do everything.

    Olhonestjim, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    I absolutely love Fallout 1 & 2. They are personal favorites. Far Cry 1 was also incredible, but the only ones I’ve touched after were Primal and Blood Dragon. I really need to try out the early GTAs though.

    SecretSauces,
    @SecretSauces@lemmy.world avatar

    Get ready for a completely different play style. Those two are top-down games instead of third person

    zod000,

    I feel like I enjoyed the first two more than any afterwards. GTA 2 was an exceptional LAN game.

    Olhonestjim,

    I’ve beaten Chinatown Wars and enjoyed it quite well. My first game system was the Atari 2600. I’m fine with low poly, old school animations.

    Cracks_InTheWalls,
    @Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The early GTA games are different, for sure, but they’re still fun games in their own right.

    Only thing that really threw me off going back was no in-game map/radar.

    B0NK3RS, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion
    @B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

    GRID (2019), there seems to be a lack of decent arcade track racers nowadays but this is a good one.

    Kedly, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    By TSE do they mean TES. That’d still be weird considering I think more people would have had either Skyrim or Oblivion be their first entry, and not Morrowind

    Ostrichgrif,

    Yeah but even dedicated elder scrolls fans aren’t going to go back and play through arena and daggerfall. Morrowind definitely feels old but from my perspective still feels very playable and understandable from a modern context. Daggerfall and arena are a different beast entirely and are a little more intimidating for the average gamer.

    Kedly,

    Thats a fair point! I’ve loved every entry of TES since Morrowind, yet I’ve never felt the urge to play Daggerfall or the first, and I dont think I ever will

    MeDuViNoX,
    @MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Aren’t there a bunch of great mods for Morrowind as well?

    Macaroni_ninja, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion
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    Last Epoch I love it! Plus runs great on Steam Deck

    code,

    My son and i are doing a fun slow roll with this. 20hrs and only level 4. Love it

    undeffeined,

    20h and level four? What are you doing??

    code,

    Farming. Building. Exploring. We got into a bunch of fights and got all the people in base finally last night. Level 8 now

    Macaroni_ninja,
    @Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

    You sure we are talking about the same game? Lvl 4 can be achieved during the first map within 10 min in Last Epoch

    code,

    Oops. I swear i replied to enshrouded. My bad. Last epoch is damn good too. We had many hors in ea. looking forward to new play in 1.0

    undeffeined,

    Yeah, we’re not talking about the same game.

    undeffeined,

    OMG that is great news, had no idea it ran well on the deck. Does it run out of the box or did you have to do some tinkering/configuration?

    Macaroni_ninja,
    @Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

    By default there are some texture issues, switching to Proton GE resolved everything.

    wizardbeard, do gaming w There was beauty in the simplicity
    @wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    People forget, you never owned the games you bought, physical cartridge or not. The instruction booklets state that you bought a license. It’s the bullshit argument console manufacturers use/used to go after emulation developers.

    Having a copy of the game that can’t be fucked with by errant updates to the game files or by updates to the device you use to run it is a wonderful thing, but don’t lie to yourselves about the legality of ownership. That’s been a busted clusterfuck for longer than most users on here have been alive.

    reMaster17,

    Scott Ross is a Youtuber who has always been vocal about game publisher making games unplayable by closing their servers. Lately he is gathering information about the legality of this practice worldwide to find the best country/state union to fight it legally because come the end of March the game The Crew will be shut down by Ubisoft but has still a very big active playerbase that might be able to move things forward by contacting consumer rights organisations here in Europe. More Infos in his Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4

    TIMMAY, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    I have played the first and second witcher games! I am sure that the first one has a lot of good stuff but all I really took away was that it was weird relative to modern games and it took a lot of willpower to finish. The second game is bad fucking ass! Buuuut the difficulty scaling and overall pacing is a bit odd. For example you can play on a relatively high difficulty and the base gameplay is very reasonable and fun but the bosses are just absolutely batshit and you’ll get stuck in a loop where youre dying about 2.5 seconds after reloading endlessly edit: and if you haven’t played 3 youre missing out! It is super fun and playing on death march is actually really rewarding and fun

    DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

    The Witcher 1 is a pretty standard CRPG styled like the original Baldur’s Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic, etc, and all essentially running a modified Dungeons and Dragons ruleset behind the scenes.

    It probably did feel a little dated because it simply was dated, even for 2007 and with some of the changes they made to keep things interesting.

    However, they did show boobies, so, you know.

    TIMMAY,

    fkn love boobies

    Stalinwolf,
    @Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

    First one has the best Alchemy system of the three, which only got progressively worse with each entry. I also felt more satisfaction researching monsters and their strengths/weaknesses prior to encounters in 1. The other games for whatever reason didn’t quite scratch that same itch, but were obviously better in most other ways. All in all, I think I liked 1 and 3 the most.

    shapis, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    First GTA slapped.

    Mycatiskai,

    GOURANGA!!!

    wazzupdog, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    I feel like the odd one out, i prefer most of the early games, FF1, GTA2, Warcraft 1+2, Farcry 1+2

    MeanEYE,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    You are not, it’s just fanboys who have perverse need for allegiance for no other reason than to geek out over something that are not touching anything before their time. To me Fallout is the first two games, and perhaps New Vegas even though engine is dogshit.

    grahamja,

    War craft 1 was great at the time, the 2d one is still a lot of fun.

    nivenkos, do gaming w There was beauty in the simplicity

    You get automatic patches, DLC support long after release, etc. though.

    Like the old model wasn’t perfect either.

    Just don’t buy AAA games that insist on their own launchers, DRM and anti-cheat, etc.

    Rentlar,

    Having fun? When you gave us $80, that gave you access to the shit version of our game which makes you nothing but a lowly boatswain. If you actually wanted the “Full Game” you need to cough up the whole $120, bucko. Also we have a Battle Pass, that lets you speed through it like a Pirate Boss through if you go Premium.

    Long Live Piracy!

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    nivenkos,

    I said don’t buy AAA games, so of course don’t buy AAAA games ;)

    BranBucket,

    I don’t, I stopped buying AAA games a long time ago. I stopped buying a lot of games in general, because this kind of greed and enshittification has sucked a lot of joy out of something that I used to enjoy. But that isn’t a fix for the problem.

    A relative handful of boycots won’t do much in the face of manufactured demand and market dominance.

    Just stop buying games is essentially the “don’t like it, leave it” argument. And if you simply leave quietly, little changes. This is a discussion that should be had, and not just about games. This business model is bad for consumers, it’s pervasive across many industries, and far too many people just swallow the bullshit most corps spew about it’s supposed advantages.

    These issues need to be pointed out, this needs to be a subject of public discourse. It should remain in the public eye until consumer rights are respected. It’s not about just not buying games, we should be pushing for better options.

    ikka,

    Game consumers have little say now that it has gone mainstream. “Normies” are content buying the latest, hottest games and dropping them for the next latest, hottest games in an endless loop. It’s disappointing to witness and I’m not even a gamer.

    nivenkos,

    Yeah, I just buy games that I support though - like Shadow Empire, Stellaris and Kerbal Space Program.

    underisk,
    @underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

    Games generally shipped in a completed state because you couldn’t release some broken, unfinished garbage and just patch it later. DLC used to be expansions for half the price of the original and included a lot more than just gun skins and keychains.

    Leeker,

    Someone has clearly forgotten the Video game crash of 1983. Where games weren’t shipped in finished states and they just didn’t fix it. At least now they can attempt to patch and fix the games.

    ShortYetLongDogs, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion

    I dipped back into Civilization 5 again recently. For the first time in a playthrough I asked another civ to go to war with me against another and they actually said “yup let’s do it.”

    We crushed Genghis Khan together. I took his capital, liberated the city states for the alliances/negating warmongering penalties, and left him with a single landlocked city. I warned you not to touch Sydney, you butt.

    elvith, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    Fallout fans: Not touching anything beyond the first two games

    Asafum,

    That was my friend, he was so mad when they went 3d lol I didn’t mind as much, but I did like the old style.

    maynarkh,

    Fallout 3 was not a bad game, but it must have been annoying for a series you love to change genres.

    Cethin,

    That’s not fair. Interplay made a 3D (though still top down) “Fallout” with Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel before they sold it to Bethesda. It’s also far worse than anything Bethesda has done or will do with the series. It’s great how everyone just chooses to ignore that it exists.

    GoodEye8,

    New Vegas is a true successor to the first two, it’s simply held back by a bad engine. It’s the number 1 game I would like to see a proper remake of.

    Cethin, (edited )

    More than anything it’s held back by it’s ultra short development time. The engine isn’t great, but they made it work for them fine, ignoring the crashes which could have been solved with more time, and are mostly solved with mods. The combat can only be so good with it, but that’s not why NV is good anyway.

    GoodEye8, (edited )

    That as well. There’s so much content they could’ve added to the game if given more time and less technical restrictions. That’s why I want to proper remake. Not an exact remake, but one that also has the cut content (which will make the game different from the original, because Ulysses was supposed to be a companion not the culmination of the couriers journey).

    Cethin,

    Yeah, I’d love to see a re-imagining, especially since they know it’ll make a ton of money, so they can invest in it. I assume, if it did happen, that they’d want to keep all events the same for lore reasons though, just to keep it from getting confusing. I believe Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel has been un-canonized though, so it wouldn’t be a first for FO, and Bethesda does that all the time with TES, so whatever.

    SplashJackson, do gaming w Many are worth checking out

    GTA 2 and Warcraft 2 were the best in their respected series

    GoTeamBoobies,

    WC2 was my first RTS

    I had lan parties with GTA2, such good memories

    gamermanh,

    GTA 2… Best

    Bold opinion, got a reason?

    SupraMario,

    Cause it was really the first of it’s kind and was on a console. GTA while was also console released was a lot different and not as polished.

    This meme was made by someone who didn’t grow up during the time of top down games, WC/WC2, FO1/2 and GTAs all were insanely good for their time.

    evranch,

    GTA2 and 3 might as well have been different series for how different they were. Both were great but I’ve always wanted to see a top down successor to GTA2. The game was much goofier and the top down view let you kite a ridiculously large police force through the wildest chases imaginable.

    GTA2 was just plain fun.

    Kind of like how Metroid forked into its 2D and 3D incarnations, each with a separate story and timeline even (The Metroid Prime series splits off after Super Metroid, and Fusion / Dread diverge significantly)

    With Prime 4 lost in the pipe somewhere, Dread was an honest surprise to see. Even more surprising was to see it was a 2D Fusion sequel over a decade later! And it felt like a real return to form for Metroid and was a blast to play.

    This is how I feel a GTA2 sequel could be received, but they would need some way to identify it from the 3D titles that most people identify as GTA now.

    Maybe even an HD remaster with some new content would be well received. I would love to play GTA2 again in HD.

    flambonkscious,

    Out of interest, did you play GTA 1?

    evranch,

    I never had a chance to, I was pretty young when 2 came out and had never even heard of the original game.

    Kelly,

    Kind of like how Metroid forked into its 2D and 3D incarnations

    Most people use Zelda as their example for the phenomenon

    evranch,

    I would be surprised to see another mainline 2D Zelda though, Zelda has pretty much been 3D since OOT except for the DS games.

    Metroid had gone the same way and that’s why Dread was such a surprise to see and I feel like top down GTA would be the same sort of thing.

    I doubt we will see something like Dread from the Zelda series after BotW/TotK were such expansive open worlds, Zelda just seems to be getting bigger.

    zod000,

    Stop saying sad and probably true things! We need another 2D Zelda.

    Olhonestjim,

    Did you try Chinatown Wars? I thought it was pretty awesome.

    evranch,

    I thought it was just a mobile game and ignored it but it actually looks like a real game and pretty good, I should check it out! Too bad for some reason they overlooked a PC release, have to play it on DS emulator in low resolution I guess.

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