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OmegaMan, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

Is anyone really excited for borderlands anymore? Feel like 2 of the last 3 were pretty mid.

samus12345,

1 - good

2 - good

everything else - meh

ABetterTomorrow, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

Ok…… then do borderlands 1. That’s fine.

Linktank, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

No thanks.

mohab, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

I've never spent more than $20 on a game 😂 like ever 😂 CEOs be crazy.

UraniumForBreakfast, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

What ISN’T woke to conservatives/republicans anymore?

Please don’t answer that, I know the answer, but come on. Pick up a book.

PapaStevesy,

Reading is woke

Addv4,

It’s how they getcha! That dang “Thinking for themselves!”

UraniumForBreakfast,

I’m not reading that.

Aurenkin,

Typing is woke…oh crap

Klear,

Typocal woke typist

46_and_2,

“Up yours, woke typists!” in a Kermit Peterson voice

Inaminate_Carbon_Rod,
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  • InternetCitizen2,
    @InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world avatar

    think about it your cock is soaking up the estrogen right from the tapp. Woke afff

    ^/s^

    biofaust,

    You suddenly made it clear in my mind that most talk about hormones and other “gym biochem” reeks of body horror.

    brsrklf,

    I am currently ingesting a cocktail of complex chemicals that are manipulating my sensory receptors, sending electrical impulses through my neural system and altering the balance of neurotransmitters in my brain.

    Anyway, I’m kinda enjoying that sandwich.

    biofaust,

    Good one, although still sounding benign. Hormones and in general stuff related to flesh is when this shit hits MeatCanyon territory.

    rtxn,

    Having a consistent definition of “woke” is too woke for some fossils.

    Aielman15, (edited )
    @Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

    Woke did not exist before 2015, so everything created before that year is, in fact, absolutely based. Including all those apolitical masterpieces I grew up with, such as Metal Gear Solid and Bioshock. I wish they still made fun games instead of insisting on shoving leftist commentary down out throats. I really want to enjoy gaming again but developers are woke leftists now :(

    Lucky for us, the glorious Nippon country is untouched by woke. No, I don’t know Japan and I’ve never visited it, but i play a lot of VNs, which is basically the same thing.

    EDIT: In case it wasn’t clear… /s

    Ledericas,

    the massive increase of “woke” by conservative began around the time trumps 1st term, it only amplyfied just befored the pandemic, and during the pandemic. when disney shows, movies, trek made all these right wingers all uncomfortable.

    Inaminate_Carbon_Rod,

    They had overused CRT.

    They needed a new Buzzword.

    DEI is the current boogeyman anyway.

    Ledericas,

    CRT is also something they couldnt grasp or understanding, i felt like that dint stick too long, like woke did. crt is meant for LAW SCHOOL graduate studies. it was harder for low-brain conservatives to comprehend then woke and dei.

    DEI is the new woke, but woke still is used heavily too.

    Zero22xx,

    If Legend of Zelda first came out today, you can bet your ass these people would be complaining about Link not being ‘manly’ enough.

    brsrklf,

    The first trailer of Breath of the Wild had a lot of people literally wondering whether that Link was a girl. I didn’t see a lot of complaining about it, I wasn’t looking for some though.

    Also, Gerudo town. I’m not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you’d need to shit on “wokeness” and somehow filter out BotW completely from it.

    Aielman15,
    @Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

    Half the things those idiots like would be ‘woke’ if they came out today. Any movie/videogame/(I would include books but these chuds don’t read) including a female lead, a non-white person, or a disabled individual is doing virtue signalling and pandering to minorities. But back then, chuds didn’t have the internet to tell them what to hate.

    There are tons of things that nobody cared about years ago that wouldn’t fly today. Fairy Oddparents having a male individual become pregnant. LOTR’s Éowyn killing the witch king on her own. Avatar: TLA has a few ‘woke’ episodes as well - for example, one where the male leads learns how to fight from a woman, and another where the female lead needs to convince a male wizard to teach her magic, which was a man-only practice.

    If they were released today, you’d find them in thumbnails on YT with “cringe”, “woke” or “DEI” written in CAPS all over the place.

    Zero22xx,

    Absolutely. Also Power Rangers for having a diverse cast that includes girls who kick ass too, and Captain Planet for having both a diverse cast and ecological consciousness. And X-Men for the same reasons they shat on X-Men '97. And Sonic the Hedgehog for being anti-authoritarian and having little PSAs about tolerance and being a good person. And Justice League Unlimited for showcasing female heroes just as much as male heroes. Powerpuff Girls for obvious reasons.

    Back then they called everything they didn’t like “satanic” or “evil” anyway. Before they realised they could trick idiot kids into joining their cause by calling it “woke” and packaging it as rebellion instead of pearl clutching and puritanical nonsense.

    brsrklf,

    And Sonic the Hedgehog for being anti-authoritarian and having little PSAs about tolerance and being a good person.

    That would be very funny to complain about those because those PSAs were enforced on the studios by the FCC. Lots of cartoons from that era had them, including fucking G.I. Joe (that’s where “Now you know, and knowing is half the battle” comes from).

    Later Animaniacs parodied the shit out of these with absurd “wheel of morality” segments.

    TaiCrunch,

    ioi-xd.net/files/wokeornot.html

    As it turns out, not a lot.

    brsrklf, (edited )

    Many diverse characters all fighting back against their unfair economic situation.

    “… and that’s terrible.”

    I also remember Portal 2 being on that list for “Most male characters are being depicted as incompetent compared to female characters” or something.

    Dude. There are 4 characters in the whole game, counting one that’s dead but probably has the most characterization. Two are male. One guy is definitely a moron by design, but the other was definitely not incompetent. Mad, evil, sure. But he certainly achieved stuff.

    FenrirIII,
    @FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

    The only books these dumdums pick up are the ones getting thrown onto the fire

    Cargon,

    Cleaning your ass after shitting is woke.

    UraniumForBreakfast,

    I hope my simple annoyances of painting my nails as a man gives these type of people high blood pressure.

    The fucking Secretary of Defense doesn’t wash his hands either

    throwawayacc0430,

    TIL, my mom works in the Department of Defence.

    (Bitch never wash her hands and says I’m paranoid and germaphobic 🤨)

    Snowclone,

    No no o no no no. It’s FEMININE to not have shit all over your asshole all the time.

    medsal15,
    @medsal15@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
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  • Snowclone,

    Really doesn’t work with this format, honestly.

    AdamBomb,

    Perfection

    Ledericas, (edited )

    woah a book, sounds “woke”, to these conservatives.

    el_bhm, (edited )

    Anything that vibes with the voting base is woke.

    buddascrayon,

    I mean, if you look up “gamergate” and see the real reason why these little whiny bitches had such a shit fit. You can see that a lot of male gamers are a bunch of whiny little bitches who throw idiotic tantrums whenever anything highlights women in the gaming world.

    Corkyskog,
    @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar
    kibiz0r, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    Witcher 4 devs adjusting to Unreal Engine after years of REDengine:

    https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/07c1a566-b20b-41e8-ba73-08ee40f53d28.webp

    Empricorn,

    Damn you. I will never not upvote this! It perfectly encapsulates conservatives and maga freaks…

    FireRetardant, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    Lots of respect for Doug Cockle, the VA. He could use the outcry to try to get another big deal and make more money as the main character, but instead he recognizes the witcher is bigger than him or his character and is happy to have another person take the lead role and the spotlight.

    ShaggySnacks, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    Them books are woke.

    neon_nova,

    Tldr?

    harrys_balzac,

    Females characters who live independently.

    BmeBenji,

    ehhhhhhh

    I mean Ciri does but she’s a child throughout the books.

    Yennefer and Triss are almost only as independent as their insatiable lust for Geralt lets them be. Kind of like Triss and Shani in the Witcher 1 but I’d argue they’re worse in that game than in the books

    Seefoo, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    honestly though, calling it woke makes me want to check it now…so 🤷. I am not sure woke is the insult its intended to be.

    Vince, (edited ) do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    How is “woke” an insult now? What am I supposed be? Asleep?

    Ledericas,

    conservatives use it to shut down arguements, of things that they are potentially wrong about, which includes everything they dont like. but mostly refers to traditional male and female roles(no lgbtq+)

    Goretantath,

    Ikr, idiots would rather be asleep at the wheel of life.

    RightHandOfIkaros, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    “You can’t just have Geralt for every single game.”

    I mean… Yes. You literally can.

    Mario, Sonic, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby… You can create infinite video games with the same main character over and over again. Its like an infinite money glitch if the character is popular and well liked.

    ysjet,

    The difference is that none of those characters had their stories wrapped up.

    Geralt’s story was wrapped up in Witcher 3. That was the whole point.

    Wahots,
    @Wahots@pawb.social avatar

    What happened to him in the end? I remember her sacrificing herself to the winter, but all I remember is Geralt living and then the post game DLC. Maybe I got the really weird ending, haha

    Moobythegoldensock,

    There were multiple possible endings for both Geralt and Ciri, including endings where Ciri survives.

    Sterile_Technique,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    There were multiple endings depending on the choices you make throughout the game. Same for the two DLCs.

    The ‘good’ endings were in the base game she confronts the winter and succeeds, returns to Geralt as a father figure, and lives on as a witcher. Then in the Blood & Wine DLC, Geralt basically retires in his own vineyard.

    Fizz,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    Witcher 4 starts off with Geralt waking up realising witcther 3 was all a dream and he has plenty of story left to monitize.

    pezhore,

    Oooh, the rare reverse Jacob’s Ladder scenario!

    grue,
    InternetCitizen2,
    @InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world avatar

    I felt similar about people wanting MC back in Halo.

    Sterile_Technique,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    They need to release a fake “Witcher 4” that’s just an older Geralt moping around his vineyard bitching about how his knees hurt. All of his quests would be things like pestering his workers about how badass he used to be, going to town to return a watermelon to the fruit vendor because of a mushy spot he didn’t notice when he purchased it, shit like that.

    All the while, the townsfolk would slip idle chatter about crazy shit that Ciri’s doing off camera.

    TassieTosser,

    I’d be down for Witcher 4: Winedew Valley

    Sterile_Technique,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly, as a stopgap that just releases out of nowhere for the sole purpose of building hype for the actual Witcher 4, kinda like how Bethesda did with their random vault dweller mobile game, I’d be all for it.

    Bonus points if it’s 16 bit.

    PieMePlenty,

    Geralt could go on a Gwent tour… but what’s this? Upon entering this new land of Walachia, some bandits stole his Gwent deck while he was asleep in his camp. And he had the ultra rare nude Triss card in it, too! Open, The Witcher 4: a quest for cards and vengeance.

    harrys_balzac,
    lime,
    @lime@feddit.nu avatar

    someone missed the story in breath of the wild

    And009,

    Pisses me off really. At best it’s few centuries of peace and negligence.

    prole,

    Yeah I think we all know what he meant when he said “can’t”

    MrScottyTay,

    All of those games’ characters are essentially just mascots though (other than samus). So they’re not really an applicable comparison for continuing a character long term in a story focused world that tries to be somewhat grounded in terms of consequences and passage of time.

    VirgilMastercard, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    This comment is woke

    ABetterTomorrow, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    Low lifes

    k1ck455kc, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    As long as they remake the original Witcher(and maybe the 2nd one too) so i can experience it in a similarly cinematic way to The Witcher 3… I will be happy and excited to see what a Ciri-based game or even trilogy would look like.

    Will definitely miss the masculine indulgences of TW3 in the Ciri game though…

    BmeBenji,

    If you’re avoiding the first two Witcher games because they’re somehow not cinematic, you’re sorely mistaken.

    Both of those games are incredibly atmospheric to the point of mastery. (tbf you have to be able to forgive the character models in the first game and that can be admittedly difficult because HOLY HELL ZOLTAN ARE YOU OKAY)

    also wtf do you mean “masculine indulgences?”

    pezhore,

    Definitely not OP, but I wouldn’t mind remasters of the first game to address the wonky controls. Witcher 2 was fine, but trying to go from Witcher 3 back to Witcher 1 for the first time was not a great experience for me.

    orgrinrt,

    Yeah. The controls, the fighting. Even with all the patches and community stuff laid on top, it was a bit too uncomfortable to actually play through for me.

    The second one was brilliant. And to this day, despite me having almost 200 hours in Witcher 3, the only Witcher game I’ve actually finished. I think second’s format was perfect. 3 is just too open and beautiful, I get lost in wandering around too easily.

    BadlyDrawnRhino,
    @BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone avatar

    They are remaking the first game, but I don’t know if there are enough details about it yet to know how extensive the overhaul will be. The second game doesn’t need one.

    Trainguyrom,

    The second one might benefit from a remaster by the time 4 comes out, as some of the models are a bit too XBox360 era, with the strangely wide shoulders and oversized arm muscles of the time

    BadlyDrawnRhino,
    @BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone avatar

    That’s fair. I was thinking more about the overall aesthetic, as it’s a bit more stylised rather than leaning towards realism like in 1 and 3.

    kbotc,

    Ciri has a relationship with a woman in the books, so I’m not sure you will miss what I assume you’re referring to as “the masculine indulgences” as much as you think you will.

    On the other hand, CDPR retconned a shedload of that book so we shall see.

    LostWanderer, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    ROFL I guess these dudes want to live a power fantasy through Geralt instead of accepting the natural next step; since they are following the Witcher Books for the most part, Ciri was bound to be the lead character. I feel the Witcher 4 will be an excellent game, there’s interesting ground to cover with Ciri. The only bad thing will be if there is no first person mode, as I tend to avoid games with women as leads…I like to look at men from behind, not ladies. I hope the art team chose a design that doesn’t try to make her into a thirst trap (as that low-key makes me not want to play games with female leads).

    FunnyUsername,
    @FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

    i promise you’ll be able to trace her ass crack through her jeans

    LostWanderer,

    hurls a little in my mouth ROFL I hope not.

    grue,

    Wait, so are you the one who did this?

    jjjalljs,

    Maybe I spend too much time here because I knew what that was before I clicked it

    LostWanderer,

    ROFL Never, good looking male butts are so rare in video games… I could never do that to Astarion, as I don’t find it particularly overwhelming. I see so many guys that have occasionally well-defined cheeks in pants, it’s a feature, not a bug. This was a Kinsey Scale 2 guy who was way too uncomfortable with how often his eyes drifted to Asatrion’s rear, as that digital man has a whole bakery.

    harrys_balzac,

    Thong customization.

    DeathsEmbrace,

    If I can’t have stripes or polka dots this game is not worth it.

    vxx,

    I have a friends that’s the same. She refuses ro play witcher 3 because you cant pick a female character.

    dragonfucker,

    This is understandable if someone has a strong gender identity. Most people don’t have much of a gender so it’s less important to them.

    kux,

    Could also be about your conception of what you’re doing in a game - are you being the character, or controlling them

    dragonfucker,

    That’s why drag personally believes all RPGs with character customisation should have gender selection unless there’s a very good reason why not. The one good exception drag has seen is Pentiment - in that game you’re a mediaeval writer who hangs out with the monks at the Abbey. That story can’t be authentic with a woman player character. But that’s a very rare situation. Even games with named main characters can have gender select. Look at Prey and Mass Effect. It’s an accessibility feature.

    kux,

    Been meaning to try pentiment, is it any good?

    dragonfucker,

    Yes.

    LostWanderer,

    In first person, there is no issue playing a female lead for me. I just have an issue with the common thirst trap design which has been a default design choice in games. As a gay dude, I find that sort of objectification is gross (the same is true for lead men in games. Except in the games that’s the point).

    Especially when the camera does that pan to that lady lead’s ass in third person…Its not the vibe I seek when playing a game. 🙃

    Any game with a leading lady that is serving cunt without the objectification I can easily play. Bayonetta is an example of one such game, she’s a force of nature, it feels as if she has a strong sense of agency. She’s not been made just for the male gaze.

    InternetCitizen2,
    @InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world avatar

    I guess these dudes want to live a power fantasy through Geralt instead of accepting the natural next step;

    I thought this was going to say something about looking inward or something. Like being inspired to be the best self you can.

    That’s on me.

    And009,

    Hope you didn’t skip tomb raider

    LostWanderer,

    I 100% did, as the weird torture porn-esque deaths bothered me. I could’ve played if that questionable design choice wasn’t made…

    And009,

    Got ‘The last revelation’ as a gift, those puzzle solving frustrations are etched deep down. Still far from the worsts.

    Trainguyrom,

    The death cutscenes were absolutely gratitudous in the first entry, but honestly, if you can get past that the whole series is quite good and it’s really great storytelling and acting watching Laura arc from terrified recent college graduate put into unthinkable situations that she must find a way to survive all the way to cocky know-it-all who must literally nearly end the entire world and accidentally kill many countless innocent people to finally find hubris and actually start being a decent human being

    LostWanderer,

    I did watch someone else play it (they cut out a lot of the death scenes). I liked the evolution of the character, as she grew despite being put in situations that were wilder than what any normal college graduate would face in the real world. Learning from her decisions, and not being broken by them, is something that I admire about the character building of Laura. I hope any future games won’t have those gratuitous as fuck death scenes or that lead dev dude who wanted players to feel ‘protective’ over Laura (dude was a weirdo).

    Trainguyrom,

    lead dev dude who wanted players to feel ‘protective’ over Laura (dude was a weirdo).

    Oh yuck!

    The good news is past the first game the death cutscenes are far less gratuitous, and honestly as long as you’ve got decent enough reactions you don’t see very many of them. The third game in particular puts a ton of effort into being respectful, including for example, actually having NPCs speak in local languages with English subtitles rather than a crowd in Mexico City all speaking English for example

    LostWanderer,

    That’s another detail that I loved, natural spoken language felt like an immersive choice, which served to make me feel like I was part of the game (even though I was watching someone else play). It sucks that more games don’t do this, especially if they are set in foreign places.

    PanArab,
    @PanArab@lemm.ee avatar

    I like to look at men from behind, not ladies.

    I’m the exact opposite, but nothing wrong with your preference.

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