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Fermiverse, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

I passed because it looked like FF DMC edition to me, not like a FF.

QuarterlySushi,
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It pretty much is, but if you like DMC then you’d probably enjoy this combat too. The plot is.. extremely FF. For better or worse.

Turkey_Titty_city, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

FF games have been crap since 10. I bought 15 on discount and was completely disappointed at how bland and lifeless the entire experience was. They have taken the series too far into MMO land, and need to go back to focusing on a good story with good characters, rather than a 'open world' with fancy graphics and lifeless characters.

13 was also a incomprehensible joke of a story, which they padded out to become even more absurd with the sequels.

soapysloth73,

It’s interesting you say that because this entry isn’t particularly “open world”. It’s actually fairly linear with a focus on the story and characters.

The MMO comparison is still fair though because the zones are very reminiscent of FF14. They all connect to each other and can be re-visited, but you’re not really free roaming a giant open world.

Side quests are also 14-like and I don’t mean that as a compliment. Go to A to talk to B. Go to C to talk to D. That can mostly be skipped though.

sneezycat,
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“nooooooo turn-based combat is outdated and a limitation of old hardware, players don’t want it”

meanwhile, Baldur’s Gate 3…

Nefyedardu,

Yeah it makes no sense. "Let's ditch turn-based combat for and even more niche genre, character action! Surely this will make us more money, right?"

ophy,

A Spinoff CRPG Final Fantasy game would actually be really interesting, and a funny way to go full circle with how much the original FF1 drew from the likes of DnD.

ophy,

They have taken the series too far into MMO land, and need to go back to focusing on a good story

You say that as though FF14 doesn’t have one of the best stories of modern Final Fantasy games.

harmonea,
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You're not wrong, but a lot of people aren't willing to invest the subscription fee and the hundreds of hours they'd need to see that for themselves. And even as someone who's all caught up on 14, I honestly can't blame them. Time is precious, and it's asking for a lot.

Raji_Lev,
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To be fair, that has at least as much to do with the last few entries setting the bar so low. And even then FF14 drops a few stinkers here and there cough Company of Heroes/Titan cough Paladin questline cough

RandallFlagg, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

I’m interested in playing this but I don’t own a PS5 and I’m not buying a whole console for one game. They would have gotten a day 1 sale out of me if they released it on PC.

CIWS-30,

Knowing them, they'll probably do it. It'll just take a year or so.

Edit: that said, they should've done it to start with, and not kept it off of X-box. They're killing their brand and mindshare here.

Gordon_Freeman,
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they'll probably do it

FTFY. The PC version was confirmed a long time ago

stopthatgirl7,
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Originally, they did plan to release it on PS5 and PC. My guess is Sony made a timed exclusivity deal with them, which Sony had done with companies before. SE shout themselves in the foot by taking it.

QuantumField,

Ditto for me. I have all Final Fantasy games released on PC, but I can’t justify buying a PS5 for a single game. I’ve chosen to watch a let’s play of the game. Glad I did because it’s definitely not a Final Fantasy I’d play a second time.

patchwork, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

honestly, i started the demo, and while the gameplay wasn’t bad, the characters and story didn’t grab me at all, and i lost interest almost immediately. maybe i’ll snag it in a year or two, after the GOTY, during a sale

shiveyarbles, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies

So here’s a marketing idea… Full Metal Beer

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brihuang95, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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Hoping the Snake Eater remake is good…

Fjaeger,

One can always hope, but I’m not holding my breath on that one.

Lynchy, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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Is it me or does that seem low?

chloyster,

It’s a good amount. Roughly the same as God of war and elder scrolls

…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_best-selling_video_game_…

TheOtherJake,

Yeah but MG is WAY older @ 1987 vs GoW in 2005 and ES in 1994.

Metal Gear Solid was one of the best games on the original PlayStation. I haven’t been into consoles since the PS2. Metal Gear Solid was so good compared to anything else at the time, the idea it is only at 60M now, seems like a major fumble and lack of management. I guess it is like Metroid for being underdeveloped or given to idiots “with a new vision” like in the case of Metroid.

chloyster,

I mean technically the first was was 1987, but the first 2 games were not super big, and unless you count the weird NES port, only came out in Japan. the first actually big title didn’t come out until 1998. Also definitely do not agree on that Metroid assertion. I thought dread was outstanding. And I am pretty sure its the best selling game in the franchise

TheOtherJake,

I loved Dread and Prime 2. I tried playing Super Metroid on switch, but the controls are just too poor to pull off the advanced combination moves with the slow low quality emulation. I’m disappointed that there are not a dozen Metroid titles on the switch. Everything in the Prime series should be ported.

I’m mostly referring to the long hiatus(es) before Dread, and all of the nonsense from developers other than Retro Studio. I understand they were probably in a funky position when it came to writing and coding for a new 3D engine after all of the Prime series had played out the life of the prior engine. IMO, the entire SDK for Nintendo hardware should account for key franchise titles like Metroid. These games should have story boards and plans from first light of new hardware. The plans should always include classic titles too. My biggest complaint about Nintendo is the low quality of most titles on the platform. They are too focused on recruiting developers instead of quality games. Sure there are some great games like BotW, TotK, and Dread, but I’m not going sifting through all the junk in their store to try and find anything else worth playing. I got a couple of titles that a lot of people recommended, and hated them with no recourse and they cost as much as good games. I would have paid for and played all of the Prime series if it had been ported, but Nintendo totally fails at maintaining their legacy titles effectively. It is this lack of availability now, and the stupid fumble of letting extra developers with their own forked vision into the franchise that I am calling a fumbled opportunity.

chloyster,

Fair enough. I definitely agree that I wish some of their franchises were treated better. Metroid Dread I am hoping is a return to regular games for that series, and Pikmin 4 which I recently finished is also amazing. Not everything is great but there is still some stellar stuff

Anissem, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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_haha_oh_wow_, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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What a muppet...

Kolanaki, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Right… It’s the audience’s fault and not the show runners who outright refused to follow the books and games leading to the star of the show leaving. 🙄

Unaware7013, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Alternative headline "Person highly involved with making show blames anyone but themselves for failure"

HidingCat, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Remember, Game of Thrones did well, and that's not a simplified show during its peak.

Computerchairgeneral, do gaming w The Callisto Protocol developer Striking Distance Studios lays off 32 employees

It's always a shame when layoffs like this happen, but not surprising given the game's lukewarm reception. Hopefully, the laid-off employees can find other work and the studio can recover.

Hdcase, do gaming w The Callisto Protocol developer Striking Distance Studios lays off 32 employees

That’s a real bummer, especially as I ended up really liking Callisto. I hope everyone lands on their feet.

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