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EdibleFriend, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection used modder's work without credit
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

It’s EA. That’s how it keeps getting worse.

nimmo,
@nimmo@lem.nimmog.uk avatar

The original was EA, this re-release is Aspyr, so as bad as EA are I’m not convinced that they’re to blame here.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Wait… I just had to look them up. The company behind kotar?? Okay now that fucking hurts. I’m used to the fall of EA but… Damn

frozen,
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Aspyr is the company behind KotOR’s mobile, Linux, and modern ports. Bioware was behind the original KotOR, and they were bought and ruined by EA.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, I should have looked a little more I was just looking at the years. It sounded like the original release years. That’s what I get for half assidly googling while I work lol.

So it’s like when Rockstar turned the GTA remasters over to the phone people and we ended up with a clusterfuck.

frozen,
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Aspyr’s KotOR port was considered pretty good, I believe. I was disappointed in their Civilization series ports for Linux because their netcode was incompatible with the Windows versions, which is baffling to me, considering Linux users are already siloed so much in other ways. But the games ran okay, so it wasn’t all bad.

But yeah, I haven’t really heard any good updates or news come out of Aspyr for a while. If I recall correctly, they were the original devs for the KotOR remake, which was going to be their first game from the ground up from a technical perspective. But they had that taken away from them after working on it for a year or two, which is crazy. It must’ve truly been awful.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Man this is a shame. Slightly related… How’s the switch port? I have a friend who’s obsessed with Star wars and just got her first switch and I was going to tell her to get that

frozen,
@frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

KotOR’s console controls can be a bit awkward at times. I haven’t played it on Switch, but I originally played it when it released on the OG Xbox. I assume the control scheme is similar. And the graphics are going to be dated, but that’s a given for a game from '03. But other than that, I’m sure it’ll be a fantastic experience, especially for a die-hard Star Wars fan. It’s still my top game of all time, and if you can play it on PC with some graphical enhancement mods, it still holds up really well nowadays.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Got ya thanks:)

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

The mobile KotoR port was completely broken and you could never leave the Jedi Temple planet.

Jade Empire crashed on launch and was never fixed but they kept selling it.

Ask me how I know. Fuck Aspyr, they’ve been shit for at least 10 years and I wont ever touch their products again.

RightHandOfIkaros,

The original was not EA. It was Pandemic Studios, who released Battlefront 1 and 2 both before they were acquired by Electronic Arts between 2007- 2009.

nimmo,
@nimmo@lem.nimmog.uk avatar

Ah, thanks for correcting me there. I knew that EA were involved at some level and I didn’t think to research that part of the post I was replying to, so I stand corrected, but I think the main point I was making is still valid, that the team that initially developed the game weren’t behind this re-release.

Voroxpete,

Embracer, actually, and while I do suspect that the blame for a lot of these problems lies with them (especially the lack of servers, which was almost certainly down to Embracer cheaping out), it’s hard to blame this particular failure on anyone but Aspyr. While Embracer almost certainly created the conditions by not giving them enough time and resources to deliver good work, it’s still on Aspyr that they used someone’s work without permission. There’s no real justification for that, even if you’re in a bind.

blueson, (edited )

I wonder if Embracer even had a lot of stakes in this? They sold of Aspyrs parent company (Saber) a few days before release.

Edit: My bad, apparently they kept Aspyr.

Guntrigger,

Amazing how you can just shit on EA and get upvoted even though they are nothing to do with it.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

iambulletproof.heavy

Beetschnapps,

Almost like they earned a reputation or something. Almost like it’s expected.

Kinda like doing something 10 times in a row so on the 11th time an assumption is made….

I suppose someone could think that “amazing.”

Guntrigger,

I mean, it is pretty amazing. It’s funny if they’re ironic upvotes and it’s wild if they’re upvotes of agreement because it is complete misinformation.

Yeah EA has lots of bad rep and yeah they made a couple of games in the series. But the game the article is about, as well as the original game it is remaking were nothing to do with EA.

kadu, do gaming w EA, Jagex, and Miniclip broke loot box advertising rules
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Miniclip, that’s a name I haven’t heard in years.

Sewer Run 2 was my sport.

Zahille7,

I was a fan of that cyber ninja game myself.

perishthethought, do gaming w Nightdive's acclaimed System Shock remake heading to consoles in May

… making its way to PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, Xbox Series X/S, and Xbox One on 21st May.

And it’s already on Steam, eh store.steampowered.com/app/482400/

Midnitte,

Making its way implies it was somewhere already ;)

Developer Nightdive Studios’ acclaimed remake of cult-classic sci-fi horror System Shock is - following a successful release on PC last year

JohnEdwa,

You should buy “System Shock: Enhanced Edition”, as the name implies, it’s the newer better one!

Seriously, why do we keep using the same names with reboots and remasters and remakes and argh. Languages have words, use the goddamn words!

perishthethought,

Languages have words, use the goddamn words!

I ffeel this in my bones every day. Seems like some people are trying to make words not mean what they’re supposed to mean.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Because System Shock 2023 just sounds goofy. I’m not sure how else they could have renamed it. They’ve been doing this with movies for decades, too.

The “Enhanced Edition” was the old version of the game with some mods and tweaks to make it playable for modern audiences. The new one is an actual graphical and gameplay remake.

entropicdrift,
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I’m not sure how else they could have renamed it

Ooh, I love this game!

System Shock: SHODAN Edition

System Shock: Remake

System Shock: Unreal Edition

System Shock: Reconstructed

System Shock: Mainframe Edition

IDK, one of those probably. The trend of naming remakes or reboots the same exact name of the originals is tiresome to me.

Like Lords of The Fallen and Lords of The Fallen. Or King Kong and King Kong and King Kong. Or Godzilla and Godzilla and Godzilla.

The need to say the year when talking about something is annoying in conversation.

I love Doom, but found Doom just OK, y’know?

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The only game I found that was actually successful in doing something like that was “Dark Souls: Remastered”, and only because it’s fucking Dark Souls.

entropicdrift,
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Here’s a few more. I’m only including full remakes and not any remasters, since we’re talking about the System Shock remake:

Ocarina of Time 3D

Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp

Counter Strike: Source

Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy

Destroy All Humans 2: Reprobed

DuckTales: Remastered

Dune 2000

The House of The Dead: Remake

Kirby’s Return To Dream Land Deluxe

The Last of Us Part I

Mafia: Definitive Edition

Mega Man: The Wily Wars

Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes

Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater

Metal Slug X

Metroid: Zero Mission

Metroid: Samus Returns

realMyst

Pac-Man World: Re-Pac

Panzer Dragoon: Remake

Pokemon: HeartGold and SoulSilver

Pokemon: FireRed and LeafGreen

Pokemon: Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

Vordus,

realMyst

Of course, that’s not the most recent remake of Myst. The current one is called, er, ‘Myst’.

Sigh. Looking forward to Riven. Again.

TurboHarbinger, do gaming w Nightdive's acclaimed System Shock remake heading to consoles in May

I hope they fix it first. Be adviced, this game has broken achievements, you can’t get them all.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They already fixed most of the bugs in the first major patch. Are you talking about the lost audio log near the entrance to the elevator on Level 8? They fixed that problem.

TurboHarbinger,

Audiologs are a pain in the ass. Everytime they patch it something else breaks.

I played the game in January, there is more logs that the first patches, but it seems the minimum you can get is still the same (had to load an early version of the game to fix that, with steam shenanigans). The “defeat shodan” achievement doesn’t work either, as in is bugged, no one has it.

So no, they didn’t fix shit. That log in L8 is still inside the fucking wall.

Please don’t bullshit me.

EveningPancakes, do gaming w Nightdive's acclaimed System Shock remake heading to consoles in May

Hopefully with this they also release the patch that fixes cloud saves between Steam Deck and PC that’s been an issue since day 1…

_sideffect, do games w Spec Analysis: PlayStation 5 Pro - the most powerful console yet

Waste of money, especially now when everything comes to pc anyway

summerof69,

600EUR console vs 2000-3000EUR PC. I get it, PC gives you more options what to do and what to play, but getting a console is not waste of money in my books.

_sideffect,

You don’t need a 3000 eur pc lol… Are you running ai training tools? 😂

summerof69,

First of all, who are you to decide what I need and what I don’t need? Secondly, okay, 1500-2000 EUR for a mid-range PC. Even the lower boundary is 2.5 times more expensive than PS5. With Xbox the difference is even bigger.

Railcar8095,

Hereby I decree, only i3 for thee!

_sideffect,

😂

haui_lemmy, do gaming w Denuvo adds watermarking to help developers trace leakers

I‘m just going to repeat myself under every post that mentions this dystopian shit:

Everything to save the broken IP model.

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

In what way is protecting your game from piracy related to a broken ip model?

haui_lemmy,

Because piracy is a service issue. A jokingly small amount of people actually pirate and they are not actual customers to the publisher/developer. Companies need to learn hat constant growth is only normal in tumors.

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

I don’t see what that have with ip laws to do, and pc gaming for the most part do not have service issues.

haui_lemmy,

IP laws should make it easy for up and coming inventors and should make it progressively harder to extract large amounts of money from „small“ inventions.

Example: the recipe for most medicines is known and its not hard to produce these. Yet pharma companies extract billions from the sick and dying. Thats disgusting and entirely IP laws fault.

„Service issue“ means that it is easier to pirate than to get a fair deal. Pc games you bought being considered the vendors „property“ for example is a service issue. If a company decides to steal stuff I own, I will take it back by force if necessary. They shouldnt have used dirty marketing and I dont care that they bought the law.

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

I fail to see how this applies to denuvo creating software to make it easier to identify leakers

haui_lemmy,

Well, before you failed to see other things.

Denuvo software is from what I hear a rather pathetic attempt at securing the revenue stream of these giant companies, taking into account massive performance loss. It also makes legitimate attempts at backing up one‘s purchased goods to keep them from being „legally disowned“.

Savaran, do games w Bungie's Marathon reboot gets new director as part of creative leadership shakeup

Cool, maybe they’ll make a Marathon game then 😂

Blxter,
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Seeing as the new director is the fella who maid valorant if your looking for a single player experience it still won’t be it.

Voroxpete,

So we’re still going with “One of the most iconic story driven single player experiences of all time is now an extraction shooter” I take it?

GoodEye8,

More like “… is now a hero extraction shooter”. That’s the AAA formula, just add shit until it starts sounding like it appeals to everyone and no one at the same time.

stmcld, do gaming w Denuvo adds watermarking to help developers trace leakers

I have nothing to add other than saying Fuck Denuvo. It’s one of the worst things to happen to the gaming world

CommanderCloon,

counterpoint: Ubisoft

MeekerThanBeaker, do games w Spec Analysis: PlayStation 5 Pro - the most powerful console yet

Um… Of course it would be. Why wouldn’t it be? It’s not going to be less powerful than the current systems. What a stupid headline.

Voytrekk,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like when Apple says iPhone n is the fastest iPhone ever created at their announcement event. I would certainly hope so.

caut_R,

„It is the second fastest and third best looking iPhone yet!“

summerof69,

It’s not going to be less powerful than the current systems.

It’s not like the headline implies that it could or should be less powerful. It’s a simple headline that conveys a simple message that a regular reader might find worth clicking.

ArugulaZ, do gaming w Epic CEO Tim Sweeney calls Valve "assholes" over Steam fees in dug up email thread
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

What is it about this man that makes me instantly break into a limerick?

Katana314, do gaming w GOG adding cloud gaming support via Amazon Luna "soon"

Why do people react so negatively to cloud options? (Emphasis on that last word)

It’s dumb for a lot of cases, but there’s plenty of niche occasions it’s very cool. I had an extended period of time I was away from my gaming PC, and sad that I couldn’t play my home games - but GFN let me do so easily.

Nobody working on this tech (with any sense) is claiming ALL games will come from the cloud in 10-20 years. Nobody will accept that level of lost control. But having it as an extra way to access games, in a situation where you’d be reliant on the internet more than hardware anyway, is very useful. It was even how I recommended people play Cyberpunk on release if they had a mediocre PC.

I get that there’s constant worries about how close we are to the EA-managed dystopian control of their library, I just don’t see the logical sequence of events there when it’s an option on a generally open and consumer-friendly store.

knightly,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

I still have an OnLive console from the second time they tried games-as-a-service.

The market isn’t big enough to justify the distribution at scale it’d take to make this tech profitable.

Katana314,

You talked about console hardware, but then mentioned distribution. I’m going to guess you mostly mean servers - as these days people don’t really need any special local hardware aside from any controller.

The major cities generally already have those servers distributed and working. It’s true certain edges of the world don’t have a good experience, but that sort of just fits in the 70% of scenarios where you wouldn’t want a cloud game.

There’s still this weird expectation it would replace your home den where you have lots of space and disposable income for multiple consoles - it doesn’t. It’s really more for the convenience of getting your games from a web browser.

knightly,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

I’m going to guess you mostly mean servers

Yep.

It’s really more for the convenience of getting your games from a web browser.

Exactly, it’s a niche service that only appeals to a fraction of the folks who play games, but it also requires the operator to purchase servers with graphics cards and set them up in datacenters near everyone who has an account in order to minimize latency. It’s not viable for people who have slow internet or live in a rural area, especially when so much of their income goes to licensing game titles for use in the service.

inclementimmigrant, (edited ) do games w Spec Analysis: PlayStation 5 Pro - the most powerful console yet

I mean duh?

That said, I think the bigger question is how are consoles going to respond to the vastly growing cost of GPUs and power consumption.

VeganCheesecake, do gaming w GOG adding cloud gaming support via Amazon Luna "soon"
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Huh. Didn’t know Luna still exists.

Katana314,

I get the impression Amazon just rightly avoided overselling it and growing too far too fast. I see it advertised for a few specific cases where people don’t own consoles and might try it, but not overblown in showcases the way Google did.

MonsiuerPatEBrown, do gaming w GOG adding cloud gaming support via Amazon Luna "soon"

And that was the end of GOG

amazon has repeatedly let competitors use amazon cloud services; and amazon has repeatedly ripped off those competitors ideas stored in cloud services and then shut them down economically

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

And that was the end of GOG

How?

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