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JokeDeity, do games w New Nintendo patent suggests Switch 2 may solve joycon drift

Title seems odd, hall effects already exist, they aren’t creating something new. Also, love my DS5 to death, best controller I’ve ever used.

Cethin,

I think it’s saying a patent about hall effect sensors specifically relating to Nintendo and Switch style implementations. Obviously it’s not for the concept at large that’s been around for decades.

Underwaterbob,

I loved my Dualsense too, and then the left stick started drifting so badly, it’s completely unusable now. It’s only about a year old, too. I blame Sekiro. Both my DS4s still work fine though, and they’ve seen much more use and abuse.

delitomatoes,

You don’t have to dodge in Sekiro, just stand there and parry everything.

Underwaterbob,

True, but you still do a lot of moving around with the left stick. And when you’re stressed out about imminent death at any moment, that can be hard on the sticks.

I loved Sekiro! My first time through the game, I probably died on that first miniboss a hundred times. On NG+, I got to and killed Lady Butterfly without dying once. What an amazing game. I should probably go back and finish up NG+ once Elden Ring lets go of me.

HeyJoe,

Ps5 controller was just as bad… I’m on my 3rd now and most of my friends are on their 2nd. I also had 1 switch controller go bad as well, but I also don’t play switch as much. This entire generation had the best controllers but also the worst problems I have ever had. Prior to these 2 systems I have never had a controller break before and I’m going back to original NES days.

Underwaterbob,

I was talking about the PS5 controller. My DS4s (the PS4 controller) are holding up much better. At least the internals. The rubber on the sticks wore off, and I had to replace the tops. That was much easier than the 14 contacts-per-stick I have to de-and-re-solder on the Dualsense (PS5 controller) when I work up the courage to try that.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

I loved my Dualsense too, and then the left stick started drifting so badly, it’s completely unusable now. It’s only about a year old, too

I really think that something changed with a major potentiometer manufacturer in the past few years. I don't recall stick drift on a PS2 controller that I used for many years, but I've seen it on a number of controllers from different vendors recently.

Only thing I can think of other than recent hardware problems is that maybe the controller hardware imposed a certain amount of deadzone at one point in time and stopped doing so in newer gamepads, and that masked the drift.

Underwaterbob,

I really think that something changed with a major potentiometer manufacturer in the past few years.

I’ve heard a lot of hearsay that that is the case. Tech savvy people have taken apart some sticks and say that analog stick quality has taken a nosedive in recent years. Maybe it is just the effect of this sort of thing being discussed on the Internet more often, but I don’t doubt the veracity. I’ve had a few older controllers that I retired because of external wear whose internals were totally fine. Seems like controllers like Dualsense and particularly Switch Joycons are just poorly made.

ono, (edited ) do games w New Nintendo patent suggests Switch 2 may solve joycon drift

Glancing over the patent, I don’t think Hall effect sensors are used here. Note especially the use of a fluid, and the presence of variable resistors (parts that can wear out in current-gen controllers) for each axis.

Instead, this looks like an analog stick force-feedback mechanism that could also be used for automatic re-centering:

Accordingly, in the first example, control of current to be applied to the MRF is performed in the way as described below, thus achieving both presentation of a feeling using the MRF and an initial position restoration operation.

This wouldn’t keep the potentiometers from wearing out, but with the right software, I imagine it could automatically adjust the sticks to compensate for mild drift. (I don’t know if this would work any better than plain old calibration; it’s definitely more complicated.) Also, games could dynamically adjust stick resistance, like the DualSense can adjust trigger resistance, for interactivity/immersion.

I wonder how much this would affect battery life, how long the fluid mechanism would last with normal wear and tear, and how environmentally toxic it will be when it eventually becomes e-waste.

The PDF linked in the article seems to be a scanned image, so control+F doesn’t work, but the text is searchable here: patents.justia.com/patent/20230280850

WetBeardHairs,

Whoa, that force feedback mechanism sounds really cool! It might not be able to force movement but it would provide resistance to movement. I could imagine it as if your player character is walking into a wall and the joystick wont let you push forward.

base, do games w Assassin’s Creed Shadows devs roast Elon Musk amid feud with Hasan

Hasan, Elon and Ubisoft… what is this, a shit triangle?

conan,

someone who supports trans rights, ukraine, is actually decent human being is not like the other but sure go on

base, (edited )

wouldnt go as far as saying that hasan is a decent human being. no doubt, i rank im way higher than elmo. but that guy is still problematic on so many levels even if his believes align here there with my own. but to apply even more nuance to my shitpost: the most unfair part of my post was to generelise an individual single dev beeing the entirety of the soulless corporation of ubisoft.

/hmm, lots of fans around here. idk how one can fall for this disingenuous fuckface. but you do you.

conan,

Hasan, Elon and Ubisoft… what is this, a shit triangle?

no doubt, i rank im way higher than elmo.

idk how one can fall for this disingenuous fuckface.

you know who was disingenuous a moment ago? you.

wouldnt go as far as saying that hasan is a decent human being

Why? just to be clear decent doesnt mean you have to like him, it doesnt mean he is perfect. it just means he generally stands for whats good. he is a good person. its not really a high bar to clear.

decent, adjective


<span style="color:#323232;">1.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behaviour.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">"a decent clean-living individual"
</span>

i hope you realize how much right wing propaganda has gotten to you. if you really care, you should watch hasan’s interview with novara media.

And if you think he doesnt do enough, well he recently went to a bernie/aoc rally and streamed the entire rally to 50k+ viewers. he has done fund raisers for good causes. he went to union protests to raise awareness. many other things that i dont remember right now. thats on top of the positive political commentary he does, in a space that is almost completely dominated by right wingers. you dont have to completely agree with him to realize he is a genuine force for good.

base, (edited )

tbh not in the mood to argue with you about it. if your a hasan fan. fair enough. i’m not. as i said i dont consider him as bad as elon, not even in the same ball park. but i still consider him shit. i was even subscribed to him a few years ago. i’ve seen enough first hand. my views on him arent filtered through takes of others.

so i was about to give you the win by going silent and just leave it be.

but:

i hope you realize how much right wing propaganda has gotten to you.

fuck off. get bent. posted as a leftist.

FearMeAndDecay,

Not who you responded to, but can you share why you don’t like Hasan? I’ve mostly just seen clips of him talking with AOC and Bernie and when he covered the writer’s strike. I don’t know much about him and his content otherwise so I’m wondering if there’s more I should know?

Jax,

Not the guy. I’ve watched a decent bit of Hasan and if you only listen to what he says, not examine what he does or who he does it for, then he probably seems like a champion for leftist causes.

That being said, he works for Night Media and definitely does not put his money where his mouth is. I personally dislike the hypocrisy.

FearMeAndDecay,

What’s night media? Also what do you mean he doesn’t put his money where his mouth is? Does he donate to Trump or something?

Jax,

Night media is a talent agency that was associated with Mr. Beast (you know, during his most popular years) and is still associated with Asmongold (you know, propaganda pointed at young men).

Hasan Piker is the son of a billionaire from Turkey. While I don’t know the specifics of how much money he’s received from him, if any, that doesn’t really matter. The man is a multi millionaire who has made his money on a platform that is absolutely riddled with propaganda mouthpieces. Many people do not see an issue with this, I do.

He also really loves to claim he’s a socialist, yet is a multi millionaire (after buying him and his family a 2.7 million dollar home in L.A.). Too many things don’t add up for me, so I stopped watching him.

All that being said, idk what’s in his heart of hearts. He might not be a bad guy, I might be assuming the worst. Make of it what you will.

TiggerYumYum,

Ah, the champagne socialist. Socialism for fashion. They’re always problematic.

TiggerYumYum,

Champagne socialist, supports piracy on innocent people, tankie - criticizes Christianity and American imperialism but supports Islam and China’s imperialism.

All sorts of problematic.

TiggerYumYum, (edited )

Wait, did you seriously create an account just to fanboy for Hasan - the champagne socialist, literal piracy supporter, and tankie? Wow, this is really sad.

TiggerYumYum,

He also supports pirates lol did you forget that?

warm, do games w Overwatch 2 is finally bringing back 6v6 with tests to decide OW’s future

Overwatch was so fun, the devs just kept adding and changing shit that we didn't need. OW2 is a complete distaster though, they can keep their predatory macrotransactions, just revert to the OW1 patch for everything else.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

What macrotransactions? The game is free and the only this that’s monetized is cosmetics.

warm,

$20-$60 skins are macrotransactions.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

They’re not essential to playing the game. Just don’t buy them.

ThunderWhiskers,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Non-essential and predatory are not mutually exclusive, especially given Blizzard’s history of player manipulation. They have perfected the science of making you want someone that you don’t need.

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

They have perfected the science of making you want someone that you don’t need.

I should call her

ThunderWhiskers,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Lmao I’m leaving it.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

No you should not, you should add her as a red flag on your dating profile.

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

I appreciate the kind words, I was just joking around. I’m a happily taken man with a great girlfriend. To those considering bad choices, I promise the unknown is scary but has much greater rewards than going back to something that already failed.

Pilferjinx,

Did you play the OG, you could get basically everything for free. All it cost was time. OW2 is just an enshittified update

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

I did. You also had to pay $40 to play the game though.

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

And now it’s $40 for a skin. What’s your argument? Lots of people already bought the game and were forced into the current system.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

My argument is don’t buy them. It’s really that simple.

warm,

Nobody is arguing that, I dont buy skins in games. The point is that a lot of people are cosmetic-minded and manipulated into spending large amounts of money on skins and other customisations, the system shouldnt exist.

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with not buying them. I’m simply saying that Blizzard pulled the rug from the people that bought the first game.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, cars aren’t essential to existence either, just don’t buy them <-- technically correct, but not at all a helpful statement when discussing car-price-related issues.

Sabata11792,

That’s the price of a full game, in a game that I paid full price for, that I had removed from me for not paying enough.

A_Very_Big_Fan,

You have to buy the battlepass to use the newest characters. And the cosmetics used to be free.

They monetized competitive gameplay elements and cosmetics that were supposed to come with the $60 I spent. Both of these are microtransactions.

ltxrtquq,

They actually changed that a while back, new heroes aren’t in the battlepass any more, everyone gets them for free. I don’t know how that works with the “new player experience” where you needed to win games to unlock the base heroes on a new account though.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

I believe new players also have all the characters unlocked immediately.

ltxrtquq,

Found it

Starting Season 10, all new heroes will be immediately unlocked when they launch. All existing heroes will also be unlocked for players. This means that heroes will no longer need to be unlocked through the Battle Pass to be playable in all game modes.

New players will still need to complete the first-time user experience to unlock heroes as they learn the ropes. Once the heroes from the original Overwatch roster have been unlocked, all Overwatch 2 heroes will also become available.

So unless there was another change, new players still need to play/win games in order to unlock the full roster.

Gerudo,

There was actual game content locked behind a paywall.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

There is not anymore. All characters are unlocked for free.

Gerudo,

There is still literal story content behind a paywall. Just load the game and see for yourself.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

Oh true, the partially delivered PvE content that was canceled almost immediately after releasing after a year delay.

Pregnenolone,

”What microtransactions?”

proceeds to describe the microtransactions

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I realize that looks dumb now. I was thinking of microtransactions that affect gameplay. You know, the important kind.

cheddar,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

If cosmetics weren’t important to players, people wouldn’t spend money to buy them. We are human, we care about looks, that’s why companies make so much money on cosmetics. So yes, it is important enough to dislike predatory microtransactions.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Microtransactions don’t have to affect gameplay any more. The video games industry has successfully sold this narrative (“Please ignore cosmetic microtransactions mkay?!”) while also raising a whole new generation of gamers that value ingame cosmetics to a social-interactions-affecting degree.

There’s a reason kids laugh at one another over default skins in Fortnite or lack of cash in Roblox and so on.

Plus just as importantly, they normalize mtx on an industry level, making selling of other types of monetization easier in the future.

AI_toothbrush, do games w Roblox gets banned indefinitely in Turkey over “child exploitation”

Lol when you agree with a ban that turkey made thats a strange day. Maybe a ban is a bit too much but roblox is shitty and they should be pressured to change… and this applies to most large companies

Mwa, do games w Roblox gets banned indefinitely in Turkey over “child exploitation”
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Ngl roblox kinda sucks and their moderation is awful

Emerald,

Ngl roblox kinda ##### and their moderation is #####

Mwa,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Roblox chat filter

Targox, (edited ) do games w 4k is not 2160p - heard it here first!
@Targox@lemmy.world avatar

Lol. on the PS4 Pro or PS5, Red Dead Redemption can even achieve 4K resolution. In contrast, the game runs at 2160p on Series X.

Just saw the Digital Foundry review, it’s sad that Rockstar didn’t even bother to upgrade the UI elements. almost every UI asset runs on 720p

FrostyCaveman,

Damn

The fact it’s STILL 30fps is “hard pass” territory from me on its own but like. Wow. Lazy

notst,
@notst@lemmy.world avatar

Probably because they didn’t want to rewrite the physics that are based on 30fps max. Lazy port.

kaktus,

But on the PC Version we don’t have a frame cap. My guess would be, that fixed 30fps feel better than a fluctuation between 25 and 40.

newthrowaway20,

There’s a PC version of RDR outside of emulation?

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

They didn’t need to. The Xbox 360 version can run at 60 FPS in an emulator with a really simple patch

Leate_Wonceslace, do games w Roblox gets banned indefinitely in Turkey over “child exploitation”
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Good.

subtext, do games w Switch 2 leaks claim console runs “like a PS5”, FF7R to be launch title &amp; more - Dexerto
yamanii, do games w Roblox gets banned indefinitely in Turkey over “child exploitation”
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

This is actually about the “condos”, private ERP instances where children are exploited for robux.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cr76k3-Zak

AlolanYoda, do gaming w Smash Ultimate reveals 5th anniversary event &amp; confirms new content in 2024

The “new content” is new spirits and new spirit board events, which is OK but not the incredible thing this headline is claiming

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

I fucking hate this article for giving me hope there’d be actual new content anyone gives a shit about like with Mario Kart 8

HawlSera,

Glad you mentioned that, because I thought maybe they were going to do one more round of dlc. Preferably one that focused on first party characters. I am a Nintendo fan, I don’t know who these sephiroth and Joker fellas are

Zellith, do gaming w CoD players roast $60 Modern Warfare 3 skin that acts as an endless flashbang - Dexerto

What a joke of a franchise.

jmcs, do gaming w CoD players roast $60 Modern Warfare 3 skin that acts as an endless flashbang - Dexerto

Don’t worry they will release a $70 upgrade that tones it down soon.

fluckx,

You mean the season pass? Great! Everybody knows games suck if you can’t pay 70$ for seasonal cosmetics every 3 months

xubu,

Probably a 200 GB download too.

iforgotmyinstance, do games w Diablo 4 GM confirms “annual expansions” for the game

Too little too late. Especially for a game that went from 6 million active users to to 30k in a month.

ReadyUser31,

BG3 came out and RPG fans across the world realised what an RPG was actually meant to be. D4 is so, so shallow, it honestly did not hold my interest through the first season.

The base game content is barely interesting enough to play through, let alone playing through again from scratch with only the four quests they added to spice it up again. Drab.

meldrik, do games w Roblox gets banned indefinitely in Turkey over “child exploitation”

Nice.

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