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ImmersiveMatthew, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

Am I the only one who is already utterly bored of GTA in America? I know this is where the series is based, but I am so over my interest of that country and would love to see a GTA in a new country. GTA Bangkok would be amazing for instance.

In the meantime, Rockstar better get it together and treat their employees with respect and stop being greedy assholes. Either way, I am not buying GTA 6.

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

GTA Bangkok you’d be stuck in traffic the whole time. The tuk tuks would be cool though.

NuXCOM_90Percent, (edited )

Sleeping Dogs (aka “Sleepy Dogs”) is basically GTA in Hong Kong but inspired by HK crime dramas rather than tarantino stealing his ideas from them. And it was REALLY good and shockingly holds up (did another run late last year). Arkham Batman style combat on foot but you also have guns and cars (with Total Overdose style shenanigans to leap from car to car). Technically a sequel to True Crime LA but nobody cares about that.

Also… Emma Stone is in it for reasons nobody understands. And it is still unclear if she actually knows she was in it either.

But it also highlights the issue. Taking GTA and moving it to another country would, by and large, lose the purpose of the game. Modern day Rockstar is very much an American company and all of their points of reference are American cinema (or what few foreign films take off here). That was very noticeable any time Nico began referring to “the old country”. To transplant that to Russia or Thailand would just be an American movie set in Russia or Thailand.

Whereas… if you enjoy HK crime dramas than you will LOVE Sleepy Dogs because it 100% understood the assignment. United Front clearly worshipped the movies and it very much showed… while also making sure Wei Shen had spent most of his life in the US to account for any weirdness there.

And if you’ve ever spent time in Hong Kong? Okay, it isn’t quite as good as RGG and Kabukicho or Yokohama. But you very much get all the right vibes in a way that the GTAs often fail at with LA and NYC. You aren’t going to be able to navigate Wan Chai just because you beat up some fools there (unlike how you can 100% navigate Kabukicho after any modern Yakuza…) but you are going to feel “at home” on the streets in either form.

ElectricWaterfall, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

I will not be buying the game

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds,

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melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

you can't pirate a game that will never be released..

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds,

don’t know Fitgirl games come out so quickly, it’s a matter of time before they release a game before it’s published.

oasis,

Figirl doesn’t crack games so that’s not likely

WhatGodIsMadeOf,

Noooo. That’s still supporting them. Please don’t even pirate it if you expect to be taken seriously.

Twinklebreeze,
@Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world avatar

You can’t expect people to put their morals before their comfort.

Datz, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

It might not make up for the other shit they do, but at least Nintendo seems to treat its employees right

Agent_Karyo, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

Fuck Rockstar and fuck Take Two (even though other than CDPR, Firaxis is the only "AAA" studio that I buy games from).

SereneSadie,

Why???

Buggy releases that are horrifically overpriced, go in completely wonky directions, and in general are so generic and repetitive and yet continue to push all other potential competition from the market.

Firaxis is awful.

Agent_Karyo,

Those are high level examples.

Last Firaxis game I bought was Civ6 and while I played it for 50 hours or so, I mostly play Civ5 and Civ4 (and a whole variety of mods/conversations).

pycorax,

go in completely wonky directions, and in general are so generic and repetitive

Do you have an example because these 2 points seem like they are at odds with each other.

taiyang, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

I can’t speak to Rockstar directly but I do know some game companies send anti-union propaganda emails regularly. To take the next step and fire people is entirely believable given when I’ve seen HR push out.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

More or less all companies (that are legally allowed to (and some that aren’t)) send anti-union propaganda. Whether it is outright villification or just “We are your friends. Talk to us. If you form a union it is you saying we failed”. That is kind of just the nature of the game.

What matters is what happens when the workforce decides to unionize anyway. You can either respect it or do everything you can to slaughter your workforce.

taiyang,

Haha, your quote is almost the exact line I’ve read. HR email was literally saying how they should talk to them first and about them failing. Lol

circuitfarmer, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.world avatar

GTA Online alone takes in billions of dollars for this company. Its employees should be reaping the rewards of that success.

Something tells me they aren’t.

A lot of companies (most?), especially in the US, need to return to the social contract.

jjjalljs,

That’s capitalism for you. The owners get all the profits. The people doing the actual labor get a salary, which is as low as possible.

WhatGodIsMadeOf,

Americans had a social contract? This is hell culture perpetuated by living demons that keep people as slave workers masked by false ideas of freewill and freedoms. When in reality every avenue they offer a person leads to the same fucked up false living. Haven’t American success doesn’t mean you’re free, or worth respecting, it just means you were most likely willing to live a cunt to humanity to get “yours”.

Pika, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

My only thing with this is the claim is a glass cannon if its true. If no company resources were given out in this ordeal, if I was one of the 40 employees involved I would be leaking the forum messages publicly to show how there wasn’t any inside information involved. Make the entire case fall apart because if it’s shown no public info was involved, the claim it wasn’t over unionization becomes harder to fight. But I guess that is a better situation for in a court scenario.

ieatpwns, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

They saying they got fired for leaks but I want them to break the ndas they made the fired workers sign to hear the workers side of all this

danc4498, do games w Protests erupt at Rockstar Games offices accusing GTA 6 developers of “Union Busting”

Strike! They are about to make $10 billion off a single game. That money needs to go to the talent.

0li0li, do gaming w Ubisoft tells players to “destroy” games when online support ends

If you don’t buy the game, then you are not bound by the EULA, so…

frenchfryenjoyer, do gaming w Ubisoft tells players to “destroy” games when online support ends
@frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world avatar

Keygen music intensifies

drunkpostdisaster, do games w Stardew Valley dethrones Valve classic Portal 2 as Steam’s top-rated game

I can never relax with that game. I just get it in my head that I must get my chores done right now and it always fucks my head up.

noxypaws, do games w Stardew Valley dethrones Valve classic Portal 2 as Steam’s top-rated game

Good.

Nothing against Portal 2, but Stardew Valley just offers so much more for so much longer

Psythik, (edited )

Can’t agree with this. I got dozens of hours out of Portal 2, simply from replaying it so many times (which is an amazing feat in of itself because I never finish games).

Meanwhile I was bored of Stardew Valley after two hours of wandering around and not being able to find anything to do. From what I’ve gathered, the game expects you to figure out how play it on your own. I’m in my late 30s and I have bills to pay. I don’t have the time nor the patience for a game like that anymore.

Edit: Point I forgot to make is that I feel like for a game to be considered the highest rated among them all, it should have universal appeal. But that’s just my 2¢.

russjr08,

This is pretty much how I am, too. I’ve purchased SDV three times but could never get into it because I have no idea what I need to do.

Big fan of the dev though and how much he does for the game, even if I don’t personally play.

tempest,

I preface this with the caveat that all grants are subjective and you can like what you like.

Stardew Valley is a love letter to the harvest Moon games(and I guess rune factory as well). If you have ever encountered those games you immediately know what to do in Stardew.

I think where Stardew is different is that it came later and benefited massively from the “cozy game” popularity.

While I played harvest Moon on a super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, and Gameboy my girl friend who did not have that exposure growing up loves Stardew. This generational and gender Crossing game has tapped markets that were not available back then. Couple that with the fact that at this point you can play that game on basically any platform from phone to console, new and old and it’s totally understandable why this headline might be true.

kieron115,

Stardew lost 100% of it’s appeal to me once I learned that the events just repeat year after year and there are no consequences for doing nothing. I really want to get into the cozy vibe gaming space but I just can’t seem to do it.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would end up with a farm that took all day to water, and never enough time to go down in any mine far enough to find iridium enough to make sprinklers out of, and then stop playing.

kieron115,

There are some cheap sprinklers you can make pretty early but they only water like 8 tiles or something.

a_wild_mimic_appears,

wait for a rainy day, no watering needed!

lagoon8622,

You can buy an Iridium Sprinkler from Krobus every Friday

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I can also say I’ve had my fun with the game and move on.

sugar_in_your_tea,

In game time isn’t everyone’s metric for a good game. Some of my favorite games only have a few hours of content, but those few hours are really good.

I’ve watched some let’s plays of Starcraft Valley, and I’m glad I did because I probably wouldn’t like it, and if I had to give it a rating, it would be pretty mediocre.

I think it being so positively rated is that there are a ton of casual gamers that this type of game really appeals to, not that it has a lot to do.

ZeffSyde,

I know it’s a typo, but now I want a cozy space ranch game based in the world of StarCraft.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Lol, yeah, that could actually get me to play. “Whose a good hydralisk? You are! Yes you are!”

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Isn't that just Lightyear Frontier?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulNmvZNXY8

fittedsyllabi, do games w Stardew Valley dethrones Valve classic Portal 2 as Steam’s top-rated game

Bobby Lee did it.

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