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csh83669, do games w ‘Subnautica 2’ Leaders Say Krafton Sabotaged Game Over Payout [new events in the Subnautica 2 story]

At this point anyone selling a company to a bigger studio is just either ignorant or greedy. It’s almost a given that they’ll just crash it into the grounds. Acquisitions and mergers might be like the eighth deadly sin. Everyone loses.

TheKMAP,

Who cares? It’s the audiences fault for assuming that prior performance is an indicator of future performance. Let the founders cash out. Buyers get rich because audiences think quality will be maintained post acquisition. How often does that really happen though?

buttnugget,

Yeah I mean, I have a hard time being too sympathetic to people who unnecessarily sold their company. There is no reason to do it. If you need money, you can always get investors to get a minor stake or something.

Wrufieotnak, do games w Krafton Delays ‘Subnautica 2’ Game Ahead of $250 Million Payout

According to the article the old leadership wanted to share the bonus with the whole development team of around 100 people. I don’t think the motivation of the team will be great now that the publisher pushed the bonus in unreachable distance. Fucking assholes can’t even stand by their own promises.

vane,

$2.5 million per person. They can’t afford that, they need their slaves. I hope whole dev team publishes game source code on torrent and resigns.

AlexisFR, do games w Take-Two Interactive shuts down the Studios behind Kerbal Space Program and Rollerdrome
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Well another studio took over from Intercept Games to work on KSP 2 a while ago, right? Star Theory, iirc.

modcolocko,

stay theory was shut down and absorbed by intercept games

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Oh yes, I forgot it went that way…

billwashere,

According to the wiki page… “In May 2024, Take-Two announced it would shut down Intercept Games but continue to update Kerbal Space Program 2 under the Private Division label.”

dustyData,

I wonder how will they manage that logistically. They are firing every single developer from IG. Who exactly in Private Division is going to be doing the updating? I suspect they will just brush a little of the code that is ready, then completely abandon the product in a year or so.

Lost_My_Mind, do games w ‘Grand Theft Auto VI’ Is Postponed Again — to November 2026

I remember when GTA 5 came out, everybody was excited. San Andreas had been HUGE. Both in map size, and in game sales.

I bought it day 1. Then the PS4 came out, and GTA5 for PS4. By this point we all knew what GTA5 was.

My friend wanted so badly for me to buy a PS4, just to buy GTA 5 again, just so he’d have someone to play with.

Then PS5 came out. Same story.

I actually bought a PS4 at some point. Regret it. Barely ever played it.

Then I bought a PS5. Regret it. Barely ever play it.

And now that I know how microtransaction laiden GTA is, I’ll be skipping GTA6 entirely.

Now I see them firing a bunch of people. A few days later I see GTA6 is delayed until this time next year.

Why would anyone be excited for a series that now peaked 21 years ago, and has only had 1 other release in that time?

simple,
@simple@piefed.social avatar

Why would anyone be excited for a series that now peaked 21 years ago, and has only had 1 other release in that time?

I understand why youre not interested and I also don’t care for it, but it’s disingenuous to say it isn’t one of the most hyped games of all time. The first trailer has 268 million views on youtube and that’s only on the official channel. People are excited.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Why would anyone be excited for a series that now peaked 21 years ago, and has only had 1 other release in that time?

Did you forget about GTA 4?

Lost_My_Mind,

…oops. Yes I did.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Understandable. It was a huge step down from SA in terms of world activities. 5 only managed to rise to levels above it in the online portion (and only through hella years of additions).

MrScottyTay,

4s driving and shooting was better than SA but everything else makes SA better. I wanted then to marry the two together for the best GTA possible but they never did and probably won’t ever

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I’d take GTA 4 or 5 over San Andreas, easily. And at this point, a large part of the appeal is GTA Online for a ton of folks; not me, but a ton of folks.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

4 was a masterpiece. The story is supurb.

Tanoh,

I liked the DLCs as well. I know why they don’t do them anymore, as online is a money printing machine. But I really liked them and wished they had done more.

The world exists, so just add a story with a bunch of missions => nice DLC. But since they make such an obscene amount of money from online it makes no sense for them to do any more.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

The lost and damned was one of the best stories that GTA has ever had.

datavoid,

Red dead 2 was insanely good

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

I still play GTA Vice City and Vice City Stories.. I never looks back or forward from that moment.

mysticpickle, do games w Krafton Delays ‘Subnautica 2’ Game Ahead of $250 Million Payout

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/1291d2d1-6b55-49c9-a539-3ee78185e0b0.png

Chunk of the founders ousted and a dev team resentful about getting screwed. Think we got ourselves another Concord on our hands.

towerful,

One of the best robot chicken scenes.
I was in tears the first time I saw it

ieatpwns, do games w Warner Bros. Cancels Planned ‘Hogwarts Legacy’ Game Expansion

Warner bros has no idea how to media anymore. They forgot about looney tunes characters. They cancel their movies after shooting before release. They do t make dlc for games that sold like hotcakes. All they did was patent the nemesis system. what the fuck are they doing?

Jimmycakes,

Nobody knows but it really gets the people going

EvilBit, do games w Sony Cancels Two More PlayStation Projects

Oh no, two live service cesspools didn’t get released.

Anyway…

empireOfLove, do gaming w Video-Game Company Unity Closes Offices Following Death Threat
@empireOfLove@lemmy.one avatar

They can stay closed.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. Honestly, no sympathy from me here. Fuck those shitbags.

pixel,
@pixel@beehaw.org avatar

im super on the fuck unity train right now but like, real normal people work there that need employ and have families to support. I hope unity changes course due to public sentiment but i don’t really think that death threats forcing an office closed are going to be the way to invite that change

turtlepower,

And those people can find employment at a company that isn’t such a piece of shit.

Blaiz0r,

Well these days I’m not sure sure

turtlepower,

That’s why I used the qualifier “isn’t such”. They’re all shit, it just depends how much and what kind of shit is worth it.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

I think it’s more the “find employment” thing, not the “piece of shit” thing. Tech companies have been doing massive layoffs recently so the market is flooded with people looking for jobs when fewer places are hiring.

empireOfLove, (edited )
@empireOfLove@lemmy.one avatar

Tech companies have been doing massive layoffs recently

A. Sort of big, not recession-inducing.
B. Intentionally done by the larger companies to price-fix the tight job market so they don’t have to pay so much.

Blaiz0r,

As the other guy has said, I was more thinking about the chance of finding more employment

pixel,
@pixel@beehaw.org avatar

I hope they do. But for now I’d rather them not all lose work overnight, nor do I want all of the indie devs getting blindsided by these changes to unity to have to give up on, port, or delist their projects. I want unity to change for the better more than I want them to crash and burn. But I do think this will serve as an awakening for some segments of the industry to not put all their eggs in one basket with a company as greedy as unity. I hope Godot takes off in use, or Epic keeps using fortnite money to make unreal an attractive development platform and continues to be a good steward of it. That’s wishful thinking though, given the current state of unity lol

4am,

Saw a post that said a lot are leaving over this. Take with a grain of salt because I dunno who the poster actually is, but one can hope right?

oxysis, do games w ‘Subnautica 2’ Leaders Say Krafton Sabotaged Game Over Payout [new events in the Subnautica 2 story]

The second I heard the heard the firings happens and the rumors behind why I removed the game from my wishlist. And as more slowly comes out it makes Krafton look worse and worse

Mortoc,

That could hurt the devs more than the publisher.

If they can prove breach of contract they can maybe get their IP back. Wishlists are a huge deal for if they want to shop the game around to other publishers.

psx_crab,

It would be a few years later for the court to finally reach any judgement

shneancy,

the publishers have the data of the peak of wishlist, they are free to calculate how much mistreating the devs is going to cost them

Vanilla_PuddinFudge,
@Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub avatar

Let’s be honest. Soon, Subnautica 2 will be on the front page of Steam, likely for a month or more. People who have no idea any of this is happening, nor care will buy it up in droves and in six months, none of this will matter, and you’ll all have likely pirated it by then anyway.

justdaveisfine, do games w Creator of Hit Game Shovel Knight Is at a ‘Make or Break’ Moment

As far as I understand it, the vast majority of ‘successful’ indie studios are in the same boat. You need to continual decent hits to keep afloat in an ever turbulent and flooding market. Even if the next title is successful, they already mentioned the other looming problem, burnout. You might be able to push yourself through one game, two is a struggle, and very few make it to three.

To me, and maybe I’m being a bit cynical, but this feels like a very foreboding article.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

That’s what. I’ve been trying to get into game dev myself multiple times the last few years and it’s difficult. I can’t imagine getting one game out, let alone a second one. Getting that far I imagine has to drain a person

justdaveisfine,

It most definitely takes a toll. Most devs don’t even talk about the weird sadness you get after finally getting something out the door either.

I don’t mean to make it all sound bad though, there is some genuine joy in making something and seeing it come together. Anyways good luck on your game dev projects.

JeeBaiChow,

Just imagine: angry birds was what, the developers 50th game, or thereabouts? Grim reality right there.

WhatGodIsMadeOf, do games w ‘Grand Theft Auto VI’ Is Postponed Again — to November 2026

Remember you are still supporting them by pirating it and talking about it. Boycott for real.

sigmaklimgrindset,

OotL: why are we boycotting Rockstar again?

moody,

This time? Union busting.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Ah. Thank you for informing me o7

conciselyverbose, do games w Top Director at Bungie Was Fired After Misconduct Investigation

The investigation found that Barrett called lower-level female employees attractive, asked them to play truth-or-dare and made references to his wealth and power within the studio, suggesting that he could help advance their careers, according to two people familiar with the case.

In a statement to Bloomberg News, Barrett said that throughout nearly 25 years at Bungie, “I feel that I have always conducted myself with integrity and been respectful and supportive of my colleagues, many of whom I consider my closest friends. I never understood my communications to be unwanted and I would have never thought they could possibly have made anyone feel uncomfortable. If anyone ever felt that way about their interaction with me, I am truly sorry.”

Uh…

That might hold water if it was just casual flirting (though you should seriously be trained at any company near that scale that even that with anyone in your “chain of command” puts them in a really bad spot). But not for (alleged) open quid pro quo.

TheTechnician27,
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world avatar

asked them to play truth-or-dare

Well I guess Bungie should’ve known better when they decided to hire on an 11-year-old.

marine_mustang,

Seriously, I just finished my annual “preventing harassment’ training and there’s a whole section on power differential and how just asking puts employees in a bad spot. Just…don’t.

HIMISOCOOL,

Lol sounds like buddy was stuck in the year 2000 with whats appropriate even if they dont say no

bigmclargehuge,
@bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

It’s one thing to say “your hair looks nice today, Susan.” I don’t think 99% of people would take that as anything beyond an innocent compliment.

Asking to play truth or dare is another thing entirely, and I have a sneaking suspicion that the guy saying that, probably isn’t going to just be complimenting Tina’s earrings

Pika, do games w Sony's Naughty Dog Studio Orders Employee Overtime on ‘Intergalactic’
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I wonder why companies do this? does it actually make it get done faster? Last I knew most workers were only efficient at their job for like the first 5 or 6 hours if that, spending an extra 8 ontop of it sounds like a waste of salary.

Shirasho,

Because most CEOs are wholely incompetent and don’t know how to run a successful business.

saphiron,

Ex Activision QA employee here - It does not get anything done faster, and it burns out the devs and QA alike so more mistakes are made. It’s always about hitting dates on time for shareholder profits, the C-suite people in charge do not give a shit about releasing a quality game.

vega208,

Yes, it does.

Naughty Dog made its name by working ludicrous hours. One of the founders worked 16 hour days for a year, only taking off for Christmas, in order to make Crash Bandicoot.

essteeyou,

Which is great if you get to reap the rewards, but not when you’re a salaried employee who will be laid off when the project’s over.

paultimate14, do games w The Video-Game Industry Has a Problem: There Are Too Many Games

The article seems primarily focused on new games. And the article still makes some great points, but when you factor in older games the problem gets bigger.

I am not going to say that old games were better or that “they just don’t make them like they used to”. What I will say is that a lot of older games that are super cheap on Steam or out of print entirely are still great. There are occasionally new great games being released of course (I haven’t played Hades 2 yet but I expect it to be great, for example). But there’s a lot of new games being released where I think… “Why would I spend $70 or $80 on this when I already have this backlog of older games? Why would I spend my time playing 7/10 games when I have dozens of 9/10’s sitting in my library waiting for me?”

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Very true. And sometimes there’s an answer to those questions, even if we discount the games designed to disappear after a few years. You might be sensitive to spoilers, it might be the perfect game for you in the moment (like the right game for a handheld system just before a trip), your friends might want to play it with you or talk with you about it when you’re done, etc. But that competition with back catalogs absolutely exists.

elvith,

Yeah. When they announced the new Silent Hill I was somewhat interested - although I felt the peak was back then with SH2. But having read about the remaster of SH2 and some reviews that said, it’d return to the roots? Nice!

Then I saw a streamer play it early, watched a bit and it looked promising. So I went to wishlist it. Then the release day comes and steam lists it for 70 bucks (available in two days) or 90 bucks now. Well, no. Let’s see how long the price will be that high, but WTF? I don’t wanna know what’s the price on console for it - usually it’s 10-20 bucks more?!?

Skua, do games w Annapurna Video-Game Team Resigns, Leaving Partners Scrambling

Ahh fuck, stuff being published by them was usually a decent sign that it'd be interesting in some way. Best of luck to the actual team, I hope they can put something new together

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