Destiny 2 has the bones of a decent game in there somewhere, it’s just that the devs keep fucking it up.
If it were me, I’d fix it like this:
Split it into 2 games. Story based PvE with paid content, F2P PvP with all the cosmetics, paid currency bullshit.
Allow characters to transfer back and forth at will, but each can be played without the other. Balance weapons independently in both games, so changing a gun for PvE doesn’t fuck up PvP and vice versa.
Restore all the story content removed from PvE. Allow each story mission to be picked from the map like D1 STILL does, and have level markers on them so people can experience the story in logical order.
That first part reads as “get rid of everything I don’t like.” I fundamentally disagree and so do the devs. Their core design philosophy was that it was 1 cohesive world. It should stay that way.
They did start balancing weapons between game modes through design. Making perks take kills streaks or rapid kills, or by picking up drops from killing monsters, etc. Things that activate perks that can easily be completed in pve, but not so easily in pvp.
Their biggest problem, frankly, was that they didn’t do d3 or sunsetting anymore. The game got too bloated and unmanageable. You didn’t need new loot to do new activities and they just got stale. I agree they shouldn’t have removed all that content, and the story should be replayable, like in D1… which, had they released a D3, that content probably would have existed in D2 still.
You have no idea. As someone who tried to get into d2 not knowing anything about it, I was completely lost. The menu interface is Byzantine. The concept of the game is lost. You have to ask people how to play the thing and what the goals and objectives are because the game is so lousy at helping new players understand it. I gave it a hard pass.
Incidentally, it sounds like you’re describing Elden Ring and DS3.
Sony shuts down all of their Japanese studios and redirects their efforts into developing “cinematic” experiences to appeal to western gamers
Sony liquidates countless other studios in the pursuit of funding this game
Sony buys Bungie to aid in developing this game
Sony thinks this is going to be a huge success rivaling COD and Fortnite, so they fund an entire multimillion dollar CGI-animated episode to be aired in Amazon’s Secret Level anthology series
200 million sounds like a lot, but it’s like 2 weeks of PSPlus money.
For all this losing, they’re sure making a lot of money. Just not out of this game.
And that money ain’t gone yet, there’s for sure a pivot towards a F2P, MTX ridden version of the game to be relaunched.
The problem is that gamers say they don’t like that sort of thing, while the success of the likes of Fortnite indicates that there’s a lot of gamers out there saying nothing, but buying V-bucks like a motherfucker.
It missed several boats and came out with a sticker price when most of the other games in the same market are free to play
It also released 2 weeks ago, so I can see why they’d be disappointed! It’s apparently a decently fun game and getting support pulled so quickly would be sad
Stop making live service games and “shared world” faux-mmos. If it’s not single player, P2P multiplayer, or providing the server executable for me to host, I’m not buying it. There are already enough good MMOs anyways.
Some of the best FPS games are live service games but it’s because they’re great games at their core. Plenty of companies are focusing on making live service games instead of games so good that they become live services.
I loved the first Division game. It had a great community, great gunplay, and prior to the crafting nerf(s) a really good loot/crafting feedback loop. But it could have just as easily been made as a local co-op or self-hosted game. I have yet to encounter a game that can only exist as a live service game, unlike e.g. Eve Online which can only exist as an MMO.
That’s awesome! Thanks for making an MMO I personally have 500 hours in on steam. It’s actually the MMO that made me open to playing MMOs, I hated the genre before because all I knew was WoW and Korean stuff that’s all walls of bland text and dull repetitive tasks that don’t respect your time.
The stories of SWTOR and full voice acting were something else entirely. I really enjoyed it and have some very fond memories of my first time playing it as a teen years and years ago, it basically absorbed my holiday vacation that year as I found a guild, made friends, got into some RP, and really just found some cool experiences. In a market starving for anything halfway decent that’s star wars I’m glad we have it.
I actually found it pretty soon after it went free to play, I thought I’d check it out and then BAM I’ve completed all class stories, maxed levels, got into housing decoration, and even have an unhealthy number of alts I’ll definitely get around to playing through again someday.
I remember being so happy it was on steam largely for the auto updates. Seems it’s been a very healthy success since then.
It sounds like you’ve already got a curated list of games - what are a few standout multiplayer that you enjoy that meet your criteria?
I’ll start off - when knockout city, an excellent dodgeball “shooter” closed shop, the devs released the server hosting code so the community could still play
Multiplayer games that I love, that I can self-host or play P2P?
Project Zomboid, ARK, Grim Dawn, Starbound, Space Engineers, Satisfactory, and Bellwright
I would have included Minecraft Java, but MS went and made it online only recently, where you can’t play at all without signing into their launcher, even singleplayer.
I think the people that have never heard of it far outweigh the people that have and decided to ignore it. They’re chasing “normal” people, not people like us who would likely have ignored it even if it was a free to play, micro transaction riddled mess.
And “FREE!” does appear to be a key factor in making this kind of game take off. They live or die by initial player interest and retention.
These things are expensive to make, it’s not just going in the bin. I’m just not sure where it belongs. It’s clearly Overwatch’s stunt double, and even that seems like it’s on the wane.
With the amount of marketing it received, I think people would still stick to Valorent or Overwatch 2. I only see videos and posts about Concord being a flop, than promoting it.
One of these days, it’s going to teach them to stop making games designed to destroy themselves. Preservation needs to be good for business, and the lack of it needs to be bad for business.
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