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DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do gaming w PS5 players will soon be able to join Discord voice chat directly from their console

Well… it’s about… Damn time

theangriestbird,

i don’t even have a PS5 and i can’t believe it took them this long

Kolanaki, do games w PlayStation VR2 players can access games on PC with adapter starting on August 7
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I still wonder if they will eventually go the other way around, too, and let me use my Quest with the PS5 for things like RE4 VR. Doing the remote play method is jank af.

Rayspekt, do games w PlayStation VR2 players can access games on PC with adapter starting on August 7

But do they need a PSN account for it is what I want to know.

NOT_RICK, do games w PlayStation VR2 players can access games on PC with adapter starting on August 7
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

60 bucks, not bad!

PS VR2 was designed from the ground up specifically for PS5 – so you’ll notice that some key features, like HDR, headset feedback, eye tracking, adaptive triggers, and haptic feedback (other than rumble), are not available when playing on PC

Well that’s disappointing.

SnugZebras,

Especially disappointing since adaptive triggers and whatnot work on the dual sense when plugged into a pc

Eggyhead,

As someone who just has a PSVR2 and a PS5, I agree. I think being able to include those features in PCVR games might entice VR developers to provide more feature rich ports of their games to PS5. Here's hoping it just needs some kind of official driver or something.

warm,

Woo proprietary bs!

Basically, we could give you these features, but we still want to sell you a console.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Sony seems to have the delusion that their recent PC plays will get people onto their platform. It’s silly

bitwaba,

Sounds like a dumb move. I thought the money was in software/game sales, not hardware that’s sold at a loss?

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

They want people on the hardware as they don’t need to share a cut with valve on software sales. Makes it easier to pitch other services to users when they’re locked into your platform too.

bitwaba,

That still doesn’t make sense. All this does is enable the PS VR headset to be used with a PC to play steam games. It gives people that already own a PS VR another option for usage: plugging it into a PC and playing VR games they purchased through steam. It lowers the barrier to entry for the user to experience PC VR games by being able to use hardware they already have on hand instead of having to purchase an Oculus or Index. Valve still gets their software sales cut because you can only use the PS VR to play games in your steam library on PC.

Arbiter,

They don’t care about you buying the hardware itself, they want you to buy into the PlayStation platform where they get a cut of all sales and don’t pay a cut to valve.

atocci,

Yeah that’s quite the letdown. I’ve been hoping to upgrade my VR headset from a Quest 2 and I was looking forward to this so I could get away from Meta, but those features were a big part of the appeal of the PS VR2. I don’t own a PS5, so buying a headset that should be able to do all these things but can’t would kinda sting. It seems this was intended as more of a bonus for existing PS VR2 owners rather than an attempt to drive sales to PC-only players. I hope those features do make their way to PC eventually, because HDR on the OLED screen would make this an amazing PC VR headset and I really wanted that. I’m going to have to pass on this headset for now though.

Flaky,

AFAIK, HDR was theorised to have been disabled due to problems on AMD GPUs, as said by a third-party driver developer (iVRy). They also said that issues with USB communication was why they weren’t able to do it properly either with the adapter having a more direct connection. The adapter should be able to support it when SteamVR is updated, so hopefully Sony releases firmware updates for it.

twitter.com/iVRy_VR (I’d provide a Nitter link but it’s playing up right now. Use whichever redirector extension if you’re that bothered.)

EveningPancakes,

I’m new to VR. Over the past few months I was considering a Meta Quest 3, specifically because I wanted to finally play Half-Life Alyx. However, I really didn’t want to give Meta money/data (I deleted Facebook back in 2019), so that’s why I’ve held off for so long in hopes that either Valve updates the Index or another option comes out.

Could you elaborate what I’m missing with some of these features compared to a Meta Quest 3 or Valve Index from a PC perspective? In my eyes, playing this on PS5 is a bonus to me.

HDR - I understand colors won’t be as deep and brightness/blacks as high/deep which is a bummer considering the OLED screens inside the PSVR. I don’t think the Meta Quest 3 had HDR? Neither does the Index?

Headset feedback - vibration on head? I’m assuming the other headsets don’t have this, so I’m not missing much from PC games that don’t leverage this.

Eye tracking - I don’t believe Meta Quest 3 has this, neither does the Index? So it’s in parity with the PC feature set?

Adaptive Triggers - I have a PS5 and when this feature turns on, it’s kinda cool for a second but then it gets old fast. The only really good execution of Adaptive Triggers I’ve experienced so far is in Returnal. I just finished up FF7 Rebirth and the adaptive trigger sequences in there seemed dumb and unnecessary.

Haptic feedback - is this just a more detailed rumble?

I guess my main question is, doesn’t this seems like the better option when compared to a Valve Index or Meta Quest 3? For my particular circumstance,I don’t mind being tethered by a cable (at least I don’t think I will, again I’m new to VR. Besides I’d be tethered anyway using a meta quest 3 on PC) and the headset screens on the PSVR2 seem to be really nice compared to the others.

aciDC14,

Damn…

Kolanaki,
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Adaptive triggers make sense because not many games use it even on PS5 and it’s a very specific function that isn’t replicated by any other hardware yet; but why doesn’t eye tracking or HDR work with existing software on the PC side?

BaroqueInMind,

Because their eye tracking and HDR software are made with proprietary licenses they don’t want to pay to port over from PS5’s flavor of BSD to whatever OS you run on PC.

Kolanaki,
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But why would I have to use their software? There’s no other options for the triggers that I am aware of, but there’s tons of software for HDR and face tracking. A lot of it is FOSS, too.

BaroqueInMind,

They probably don’t see any value paying development time and resources for something they won’t ever use and won’t be able to recoup the costs of, when they can better spend it on shit that helps them make money.

Kolanaki,
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I’m just wondering if the internal camera would at least be picked up as a generic camera so you could use any of the things that let you get face tracking just from a camera feed (as I do now), or if they literally have no translation drivers for it to even be detected on Windows or Linux as hardware.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Someone told me adaptive triggers work in some games on PS5 controllers, I don’t know why the VR controllers couldn’t do the same. Maybe I just heard wrong

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

They do work in a couple of PS5 ported PC games. IIRC, Returnal and R&C: A Rift Apart have working adaptive triggers on PC. But you also have to have the controller plugged in with the cable; it doesn’t work via BT.

Flaky,

Cyberpunk 2077 worked for me in a similar fashion, even on Linux funnily enough.

Kolanaki,
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I was excited when I saw full DualSense support, including adaptive triggers, in the patch notes, but then disappointed when it didn’t work wirelessly. I don’t understand why it doesn’t work over BT on PC; it does on the actual PS5 🤷🏻‍♂️

EveningNewbs,

Because support is missing from SteamVR, existing games, or both.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

How is 60 dollars not bad for what a slightly better USB C cable could also do if Sony had cared to develop a proper firmware update?

Pacmanlives, do games w PlayStation VR2 players can access games on PC with adapter starting on August 7

Fuck yeah!!! The hardware is great for this headset just not many games on the PS5. Which has made me disappointed

Melonpoly,

Most of that hardware isn’t supported in pc

UndercoverUlrikHD, do games w God of War Ragnarök is coming to PC on September 19

It’s a shame it requires a PSN account. I got an account, but making it a requirement is deal breaker in my eyes. Hopefully it will find it’s way on to GOG one day, plenty of other of activities to do in the meantime.

PaupersSerenade, do games w God of War Ragnarök is coming to PC on September 19
@PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wasn’t the new CEO just talking about how they were counting on PC players to go out and buy the console for sequels? I’m over here still waiting for Spider-Man 2, no intention of buying a console again.

paultimate14,

That was explaining the delayed releases for PC, not saying they would never come to PC.

In this example Ragnarok came out in 2022, so there probably isn’t much meat left on the PS5 bone with this one.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They’re taking some meat off the PC bone by requiring this account again after it just caused major problems for them.

lazycouchpotato, do games w God of War Ragnarök is coming to PC on September 19
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

*Account for PlayStation Network is required.

Last I checked, this was a singleplayer game. Why is Sony so adamant on an account?

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar
stardust,

Maybe to see how many former PSN users haven’t decided to pick up a PS5, since that’s what they’d see after my account coming online for the first time in years.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Because a line needs to go up

Zorque,

They're basically online loyalty accounts like you'd have at retail stores.

cottonmon,
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

and because of this, the game isn’t available in my region. Guess I’ll pirate it if I ever feel like playing it then.

xan1242,

Yarr harr fiddle dee dee…

cheddar,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Same for me with Ghosts of Tsushima. I haven’t pirated a single game in 15 years. It’s crazy that Sony doesn’t sell a game in a EU country for God knows what reasons.

Squizzy,

Definitely pirate it, it is a fantastic game. There is a whole area you find by accident that has more to do than a lot of games main story. The story is brilliant, I really love these two games.

Fuck sny though, def pirate it.

Zahille7, (edited )
Pavidus,

Appreciate you finding the one thing I wanted to know from the article.

Sunny,

They want this so that they can boost their player numbers, as well as tracks users on what they’re playing.

simple, do games w God of War Ragnarök is coming to PC on September 19

Give us Demon’s Souls, cowards.

The_Helmet_Stays_On,

And then remake bloodborne

Kolanaki, do games w Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed
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What in the hell equivalent on modern system requirements would a 1660 Super be? The thing is still getting me good performance in most things, even new things, but the requirement lists have all moved on to RTX models for nVidia’s side of things. I can guess from this I might still get 60fps at 1080p on Medium settings; but maybe not if that all depends on DLSS being employed which my card doesn’t have.

Coelacanth, do games w Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I think this has to be in the contention for most overrated game of all time.

Before you grab your pitchfork, I’m not saying it’s a bad game. It’s fine. The combat is solid, the boss fights are fun and it’s very pretty. Was very well optimised too, ran like a dream on an old, fat first gen PS4.

It’s not the greatest game of all time though, or anything close to it. The open world is your garden variety UbiSoft style, the tone and the writing is all in a stoic monotone with only crumbs of Kenji to break it up, and the quest design is uninspiring at best and awful at worst. On top of it all the game is way too long considering those flaws.

I know it’s been hyped up, but I still recommend waiting for a sale.

Renacles, do games w Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed

Doesn’t the Steam overlay already do this?

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

It does, but Sony didn’t go through the crash and burn phase on PC yet so they need to add their own fancy overlay before killing it in a few years.

dlpkl,

If you read the article you’d know that it’s for cross platform progress of trophies and it also includes your PlayStation friends. Neither of which Steam does

essteeyou,

You can’t see your achievements for a Steam game in the overlay? I rarely ever use it, but that seems like something that must be there. Are we talking about the Shift+Tab overlay, or something else?

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Playstation trophies and steam achievements are two different platforms. Why would playstation trophies be tied to your steam account?

dlpkl,

PlayStation trophies and PlayStation friends.

essteeyou,

Oh, well yeah, of course. I can’t see my Xbox Achievements on PlayStation, etc.

Kolanaki,
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It sounds like you can access your actual PS network friends and earn PS trophies. I hope that is in addition to achievements on Steam itself and not a replacement. I would imagine many people getting the PC version don’t have a PlayStation in the first place.

teft, do games w Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I’m envious of anyone getting to play this for the first time. This game was amazing.

voracitude,

I’ll accept your jealousy with grace and aplomb, because I’ve wanted to play this since release but haven’t owned a PlayStation since the PS2.

If someone was playing the first Dark Souls for the first time and wanted advice, I’d say something like

To time your parry, watch the enemy’s hand when they swing to attack; when their hand starts to come down, parry

Can I ask for any tips like that you might care to impart? 😊

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t think of any tactical tips off the top of my head since its been years since I played but one thing i remember is to always explore. The side quests give gear and fighting techniques that make your journey much, much easier.

voracitude,

Thanks! And: Oh good. I’m the kind of person to scour a map like a swarm of locusts; sounds like this might be a long one for me.

Sylvartas,

Then my advice would be to also advance the story. I did my usual thing of exploring and mostly clearing areas before advancing the story and as a result I got a bit bored in the late game, because as you progress, the portions of the map locked behind story progression get smaller and smaller.

ieatpwns,

That souls tip helps too but watch their feet instead of their hands

Cold_Brew_Enema,

The game was great. Definitely not perfect, as a lot of the open world stuff was samey, but the combat was so good I almost didn’t give a shit.

RobMyBot,

I’ve waited all this time for it to release on PC. Looking forward to it!

NocturnalMorning, do games w Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed

Do we really need overlays like this? I’d be fine with just playing the game.

Zahille7,

I don’t know how many different overlays I could have. Like at least 3 or 4. But I couldn’t tell you how to activate most of them besides Steam and Nvidia.

pkpenguin, do games w Playstation: Introducing Community Game Help, a new enhancement for Game Help powered by user-generated content

Now all they need are some games to use this feature on

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