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lugal, do astronomy w Size Comparison: Pluto and Australia

Still, the surface area is much bigger. Pluto is a real continent

Uebercomplicated,

Discreetly insulting both Australia and Pluto in one sentence! Absolutely love this; will share it with all my Australia and Plutonian friends! If Earth gets attacked, it’s not my fault, but yours :'P

NigelFrobisher,

If Australia attacks Earth you’ll know you’ve been attacked.

zerofk,

Australians can’t attack Earth, they’d fall right up into the sky without some reverse-reverse-gravity system.

niktemadur, do astronomy w Size Comparison: Pluto and Australia

I’m digging the way the map shows Tasmania as part of the continental plate.

Piemanding,

Is it on purpose or is it because of ocean depth?

niktemadur,

The light blue part is shallow and when it’s underwater, they call it “continental shelf”.
Tasmania and mainland Australia are connected by the same, shared continental shelf.

x4740N, do astronomy w Size Comparison: Pluto and Australia

Pluto is still a sphere, this is an unfair comparison because Pluto hasn’t been unwrapped

UnderpantsWeevil,
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It’s actually 4π*(0.5*(length-of-australia))^2 bigger than that.

doctordevice,

Fun fact: the surface area of Pluto is only about 4% larger than Russia.

RandomVideos,

So thats why Russia wanted to expand

NigelFrobisher,

Pluto unboxing video.

ulterno, (edited ) do games w Deadlock (Valve's Unannounced Title) Passes 12k Peak Players in Closed Alpha
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  1. I feel like Steam has gotten rid of the invite thingy, because I can clearly see the “Buy Now” button.
  2. I don’t have VR 🥲

Nvm, I was looking at the wrong game. Doesn’t look even close to a Third Person Shooter. More like an Inside the Person Shooter

HarriPotero, do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?
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The sheer amount of games available today probably makes it hard to get into many of the older gems. Hell, even I have a 30 year backlog.

I think everyone should explore:

  • The Secret of Monkey Island (1, 2 and return)
  • Loom
  • Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
  • Street Rod
  • Prince of Persia
  • The Incredible Machine
  • Pokémon yellow/red/blue
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Worms
  • Mega Man II
  • TMNT: Turtles in Time
  • Diablo II
  • Burnout 3/legends/takedown
  • Skyrim
kinther,
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Crono Trigger is a real gem for an early SNES RPG. Highly recommend.

msage,

There are so many ‘Prince of Persia’ games that you need to add a year to be more specific.

HarriPotero,
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So they finally made a sequel?

I’m thinking about the 1989 version. There’s many ports, but DOS/Amiga/Macintosh are all good. Even the C64 port is great.

mrvictory1,

Would you recommend a ssoecific Worms game for PC? I have “Worms” (that’s the whole game title) on PS3 which has modern 2D graphics but idk which edition to get on Steam to get a similar experience, there are so many games.

HarriPotero,
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Just Worms that got all the ports.

I haven’t tried the 2007 version that you speak of, but it might be good. I’ve played a couple of rounds of WMD on my switch, and as I recall the gameplay was similar.

Of course, you need one or three friends in your couch to pass the controller around to to get the full experience.

n3m37h, do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?

Conker Bad Fur Day (live and reloaded)

Halo 1,2 3

Mass Effect Trilogy

Guitar Hero/Rockband

Battlefield Bad Company 1/2

Castle Crashers

THPS 1/2/3 THUG 1/2

Harvey656,

THUG pro, for modded perfection.

JigglySackles, (edited ) do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?

Xenogears - My favorite RPG, a little rough in the later acts because of publisher shenanigans, but the story is still good and the gameplay, other than turn based being uncommon now still holds up. (Nier Automata is one of the few more recent games that taps on some of the feelings and concepts Xenogears has in spades)

Worms Armageddon - Less common suggestion, but a fantastically fun game to play with multiple people, even with one controller, since you can pass it around by turn.

Quake 1 - despite my two turn based suggestions FPS is my favorite genre. Quake 1 blends things like lovecraftian and body horror into the environment. And the re-release Bethesda has done is really well done.

Doom 1 + 2 - just for the history lesson. Also has a re-release now that makes it much more playable. Still fun too.

Planescape Torment - You’ll want to be a particular person for this one. I don’t have the patience for isometric rpgs like this one, but the story is great.

Diablo 2 - Pinnacle of isometric action RPG. Wasn’t my cup of tea but if you like the genre, it’ll be a winner.

Day of the Tentacle - point and click adventure, but fun and not quite as obtuse as a lot of them. Will make you think still and the evil tentacle is funny imo. Remaster available on steam too.

Freddy Pharkis Frontier Pharmacist - Another point and click, this one is a selfish add, I mostly add it because I played it a lot and liked it. It may not be the pinnacle of anything, but I found it fun.

Half-Life 1 and 2 - fantastic and fun both. They tap into some things that other FPS still today can’t touch. Really fantastic games.

Vagrant Story - It’s hard. It won’t hold your hand. But it is a good story and interesting leveling/armor/weapon system.

Solstice - NES wizard game. It’s a fun and somewhat difficult dungeon crawler/platformer.

Sonic 1,2,3 - Classics.

Chrono Trigger - Classic RPG

Final Fantasy 6 and 7 - Classic RPGs

Age of Empires / Age of Mythology - Great Real-Time Strategy

Thief - The original games have some clunk to them but they are still fun.

Descent - Probably my favorite 6DOF game.

Heroes of Might and Magic 3 - probably the best of the Heroes games. Good fun turn based adventure game.

The Incredible Machine - A puzzle game where you figure out logical components, I played the Incredible Toon Machine a lot as a kid which is a cartoonish version.

System Shock - Another classic game. I haven’t actually played the original, but am playing the remake. You cN look at both and decide what you’d prefer.

Lemmings - another unique puzzle game. Save the lemmings from themselves, they will walk to their doom.

Yakuza - The series is great and I’d recommend the remakes over the original. Starting on zero isn’t required (It’s a newer prequel) but it’s a good start. The games are all similar in play, so take breaks between them. And the best parts are all the side stories. Seriously, all the fun is there imo. Main story is fun but side stories are more of a draw to me and generally hilarious.

Elder Scrolls III - New TES games are still fun, but they lost a lot of the soul the series had and it gets worse every time. Still fun for what they are, but Morrowind was a unique gem. Fair warning though, it does have it’s rough edges.

A few newer ones because I can’t tell where to cut things off lol:

STALKER - FPS, a bit buggy, but really excellent game. Especially with difficulty mods added. Blends in spookiness, the feeling of being alone, and fun action. Part 2 is set to drop within the next year or so. The invasion of Ukraine has made dev difficult and slower.

FEAR - FPS, this first game is still good fun, the sequels aren’t worth the piss I would take on them.

Mirror’s Edge - The first one is fantastic, just don’t focus on fighting (you’re a runner not a fighter). The first and best First Person Runner game. I replayed it not long ago and still loved it.

Portal - Unique, fun, funny.

Metro 2033 - start of an excellent series. Loved the games, and then the books.

OK I should stop. In general I would suggest playing the remastered versions of any of these games. Many of the originals are victims of their times and did they best they could with what they had while defining what made a game good. The older the game the more likelihood you’ll run into immersion breaking or game ruining designs. We had to tolerate that to find the gems in the rough. You don’t have to do that.

Shiftless,

Age of Empires and Age of Mythology should be RTS games instead of turn based like Civilization

JigglySackles,

Yeah, just mistyped

iconic_admin,

Xenogears is one of my all time favorites.

I grew up playing BG1 and 2 and have replayed them as an adult. However, I just can’t get into planescape for some reason.

JigglySackles,

Yeah planescape wasn’t for me either. I’ve tried to do it a few times and I always put it down shortly into it.

I need more people to know xenogears. Would love to see a proper remaster of it.

n3m37h,

FEAR is still to this day, a well done game. Very enjoyable and still tough

Trepang^2^ is it’s spiritual sucessor

JigglySackles,

Nice, I will have to look into that one.

Zier, do astronomy w Size Comparison: Pluto and Australia
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As a former Plutonian, I can confirm it's small, that's why we immigrated to Earth. And fucking cold!

samus12345,
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Zier,
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Stop posting pictures of my family, they are very shy!!!

grrgyle, do astronomy w Size Comparison: Pluto and Australia

No way!

kyub, (edited ) do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?

Generally, any top rated game from that period which doesn’t rely on “realistic” graphics but instead offers very good gameplay and is kind of timeless and ages well. For example, you shouldn’t play the original System Shock 1 anymore, although it was top tier in 1994, because its graphics are very poor for today’s standards, it’s UI has always been poor, and it’s a game that fully relies on immersion, but you can’t immerse yourself anymore if both graphics and UI are really poor. Instead, play the System Shock remake from Nightdive Studios which came out recently. It’s not the same, but it’s very similar, and much better nowadays. Also why you shouldn’t play the old STALKERs anymore, although they were amazing and it kind of saddens me to write this, but they really don’t offer much immersion today, which is why they didn’t age well. I’m writing this because I didn’t finish part 3 back in the day and intended to finish it like 2 years ago, but I couldn’t stand the dated graphics anymore. For a game which relies fully on immersion, that ruins it.

Here’s my list (not in a particular order), I’m focusing on PC games because I never really play that much console or handheld stuff:

  • Command and Conquer up until Red Alert (remastered version available). These are classic RTS games in a sci-fi war setting. Some say Total Annihilation was the best RTS during the 90s but I never played it.

  • Starcraft 1 (remastered version available). This game is also still being played competitively in multiplayer, with an active tournament scene, especially in South Korea. Also great in single player. Famous for its balance, at least on modern tournament maps.

  • Age of Empires 2 (remastered version available). It’s like a mix between a classic RTS and Civilization. Great game, lots of content by itself already, also tons of added content.

  • Jagged Alliance 2 (great community mods available). You can skip part 1, part 2 was absolutely amazing. A great strategy and tactics based game. It’s quite difficult, but great.

  • Doom 1+2 (remastered version available, very recently updated again on Steam (this month!)). Plenty of 3rd party engines like gzdoom also available which make them look and feel much more modern. Tons of community-made content as well. Special mention: John Romero, one of the original level designers, also made more content over the years (e.g. “Sigil”), which is great as well.

  • Quake 1+2 (remastered version and 3rd party engines available). These were among the first games fully utilizing 3D-accelerated graphics back in the day, so they pushed boundaries and they brought the pseudo-3D games like Doom 1+2 into a full 3D environment.

  • Baldur’s Gate 1+2 + its expansions (remastered version available). Also highly recommend version 3 of course but that’s not an old game. Plenty of mods available for them as well. These are all exceptional RPG games with great story and depth that no RPG fan should skip. They also age well because it’s just good 2D art.

  • Planescape: Torment (only if you a) liked Baldur’s Gate and b) don’t mind reading (it’s a lot of text) and enjoying a complex story with complex character interactions. Remastered version available)

  • Half-Life 1+2 (instead of HL1, play “Black Mesa” which is a great modern remake (not the same, but very similar and much better nowadays). For HL2, there are also some remastered versions or mods available, and Valve updated the game engine from time to time so when you download it today, it’s not the dated version from 2004 anymore). HL1 (1998) was one of the first FPS with a really great story line, voice acting, and stuff like that, which is why it pushed boundaries back when it was released. HL2 was just excellent overall and one of the first or the first game which introduced physics-based object manipulations, so it again pushed boundaries further)

  • Sin Gold was a great FPS from 1998 that got brutally overshadowed by Half-Life 1, but it’s still a great story-based shooter, more action-focused. Based on an updated Quake 1 engine.

  • Portal 1+2. Best to play them after you’ve played the Half-Lifes. Portal 2 (2012) is THE highest rated game on Steam (steamdb.info/stats/gameratings/). Truly great puzzle FPS set in Half-Life’s setting, which is why it’s useful to know about HL before jumping in (but not a requirement). Portal 1 also isn’t far off in rating. Portal 1 was basically a “side game” for the Valve game compilation named The Orange Box, Portal 2 was then a true AAA quality followup because Portal 1 was a huge success.

  • Deus Ex 1 (maybe. Graphics are really poor (they were already dated when it launched). But it was one of the first RPG-FPS with stellar level design and the freedom to approach every situation in different ways, so VERY good on the gameplay side). Deus Ex 2 is supposedly bad, so skip that. The newer ones like Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are decent but they’re not classics anymore they’re still “”“fairly recent”“”, around 2010 or so.

  • System Shock 2. It also looks very dated by now but there are some HQ mods available (improving models and textures) which make it more bearable. I’m hesitant to mention it because it relies a lot on immersion and it looks very dated. So according to my own recommendations, I probably shouldn’t list it, but it’s also great in level design and gameplay, and its art style never was ultra-realistic to begin with, so I’ll list this one as an exception. It’s very much worth playing, truly a great sci-fi/horror RPG-FPS and a worthy successor to part 1. Nightdive Studios might be working on an SS2 Remake or Remaster, if so then I’d say wait for that!

  • Monkey Island 1 + 2. Remasters available. Classic point-and-click adventures, timeless.
  • There are even more great adventure games from LucasArts or Sierra back in the day, but you’ll have to figure them out for yourself. I will only recommend Monkey Island because they were probably the most successful and well-known ones. For some of them, remasters are available, or you can play them using ScummVM. There were also other great adventures not from LucasArts or Sierra, like Simon the Sorcerer. The 80s, 90s and early 2000s spawned a lot of great point+click adventure games.

  • Diablo 2 (remaster available). D1 started the whole “genre” of hack&slay action RPGs but it’s rather poor in comparison and aged terribly, D2 is much better in all areas, so skip D1 and instead try D2.

  • Z (very unique and fun RTS game from the 90s. If you haven’t played it, you should! It offers very good and unique gameplay that no one else really tried to copy as far as I know, which is a shame. It truly emphasizes unit production time, speed and good timing). It’s also entertaining. And difficult.

  • Thief Gold + Thief 2 (remasters available I think, but even if not, despite the graphics being very dated, a lot of it is in shadows anyway and IMHO the general art style kind of ages well, though that may be subjective, and it’s also immersion-based, so YMMV, but I think it’s fine still). Also “The Dark Mod” as a community “continuation” of the series). If you like stealth FPS, you must play them. Thief 3 is also decent. Any Thiefs after that are terrible. There are amazing community-made mods/missions as well.

  • Alien: Isolation. This one is from 2012 I believe, so not quite old, but an honorable mention because it’s also an amazing stealth-based game. Its art style (like the first movies) also makes it age better. In fact I’d say this is one of the best horror-based stealth games ever made.

  • Heroes of Might & Magic 3 (I think in this case, the remaster is bad. Stick to community mods/patches). This one is still the best of the series, so you don’t need to play any other part. Ages very well because it has very beautiful 2D-based graphics. Great art and design overall.

  • There was one old RPG which supposedly aged very well but I didn’t play it yet. Maybe Albion or Lands of Lore, not sure what it was.

  • Tomb Raider 1-3 (remaster)

  • WH40k Dawn of War 1 is great if you like the universe and RTS games in general. Also the best in the series.

  • XIII (Thirteen) - but not the new remake, play the original. It’s a rather unique stealth-based, comic-look based FPS. Ages quite well because of its unique look (utilizes the kind of shading like Borderlands)

  • Elder Scrolls 3-5 are very good as well but you need several mods or engine enhancements, otherwise graphics aren’t that good anymore, and these are games which rely on good graphics as well for atmosphere/immersion. So they don’t age well by default, but thankfully they have a VERY active modding community which keeps these games alive. You can even make them look very modern, but it takes time and effort to do so.

  • Nethack (somewhat of a nerd game, terrible graphics by design (text-based art style), but amazing and very deep/complex gameplay, very rewarding to get into, if you don’t mind its presentation. In terms of gameplay depth it brutally outclasses most games on the market). There are also some other clones like Slash’Em which I didn’t play. Dwarf Fortress is probably similar in depth and presentation (but very different in gameplay and general type of game) but I also didn’t play it yet. If you know enough about Nethack it’s also not that hard, but getting to that point is very difficult and if you don’t know anything then it’s very difficult. (I’ve done 8 ascensions, i.e. 8 finished playthroughs).

  • Honorable mention because it’s technically not old but looks old: Return of the Obra Dinn. Don’t skip this one, it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played, I’m not kidding. It’s truly amazing, and it’s made by 1 guy. It’s a perfect example of why graphics fidelity in games doesn’t matter that much and you can create excellent, modern-feeling, stylish games regardless.
OrgunDonor,
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This is a great list.

I agree with your points on System Shock 2, I would also highlight that you could wait for the enhanced edition that Nightdive are doing of System Shock 2, and you could play their remake of the original in the mean time.

kyub,

Added it, thanks.

umbrella,
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Return of the Obra Dinn. Don’t skip this one

just passing by to second that one. seriously, play this game.

OBK,

Check out the STALKER GAMMA mod, I’ve played it and it’s great! (from a long time STALKER fan)

InAbsentia, (edited ) do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?

This will probably get buried but I got a few of em for ya.

Syndicate Wars: Game was mind blowing for the time it was released.

Black and White 1/2: I know, more Peter Molyneaux. Everything else has been mentioned.

Jade Cocoon 1: Not 2. One was extremely unique and you won’t find another game like it. It’s the coolest monster merging game I’ve seen and has an endless dungeon.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup: It’s old but not old. Went open source and has been developed over some time by the community. It’s much more newbie friendly these days.

Warlords Battlecry 3: Holy cow the races, persistent hero progression in an RTS. It’s age shows though.

That’s all I can pull of the top of my head right now that I haven’t seen mentioned, though I didn’t skim every single comment.

Edit: Just remembered Tyrian existed. Oldschool Schmup that had a good SP campaign and multiplayer.

olafurp,

Is Black and White still in copyright hell?

InAbsentia,

Seems like it.

nemno,

Mmm syndicate wars.

rimjob_rainer, do games w Deadlock (Valve's Unannounced Title) Passes 12k Peak Players in Closed Alpha

Dota 2 wasn’t that popular.

SuperIce,

It literally has the second most concurrent players of any game on Steam at the moment and still has over half of the concurrent player numbers compared to its peak 8 years ago.

djsaskdja,

Are there certain markets where it’s significantly more popular? I’ve never met anyone in the US that plays it.

ECB,

The US was always kind of a dead region for Dota, but it is/was very big in europe (especially Russia), south America, China, southeast Asia

djsaskdja,

I always kind of suspected that. Thanks for confirming!

drphungky,

Where would we meet you? Outside? I don’t go there, I’m too addicted to DOTA.

djsaskdja,

On Lemmy with the rest of the nerds, duh!

Eggyhead, do gaming w What's your favourite and/or least favourite gaming hardware?

DSi introduced region locking to Nintendo handhelds. I stopped buying them at that point. The next Nintendo system I bought was the switch, which was no longer region locked. The DSi kicked that off, so it might be my least favorite.

Favorite hardware is a much tougher nut to crack. Could be my first console, n64, or my first gaming apparatus, the Gameboy Pocket. But the PSVR1 blew me away and made me a little less into flat games. The PS5 has everything I love from PS4 onward (and does VR), and the Steam deck streams my PS5 from bed while also playing pc, retro, and Xbox games and being a full on Linux machine.

sleepybisexual,

Oh. I thought older stuff was locked too. Aren’t nes/fc carts non compatible? I likely wrong.

Yea, lots of good hardware over the years

Eggyhead,

Home consoles were region locked based on physical barriers in the slots that would block a cartridge from a different region. You could just extract those barriers and the console could play any cartridge from any region, though. Handhelds had been different, though. Up to the DSi, you could buy a handheld cartridge from any country and it would plug in and play no problem.

Smokeydope, (edited ) do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?
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If Little Big Planet for the PS3 and PS4 ever get a proper sequel or remaster, or the Restitched developers ever actually put out that spiritual successor it would be a no-brainer. It was a magical game series for me that was not only very fun to play but also inspired creative and logical thinking with the intricate community level maker tools built into the game. Especially LBP2 with its logic gate and microchip implementations. When I took real engineering classes I was familiar with many high level concepts just because I screwed around with them in a video game as a child. Crazy.

It was also a very cute and well done aesthetic. The gorgeous background enviroments and the little sack boy character you play as. The vibrant collection of music. It was very unique.

Fiivemacs, do gaming w What's your favourite and/or least favourite gaming hardware?

Computer

Everything else is underpowered and gimmicky and overpriced with constant subscriptions to useless junk just to play a game.

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