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newthrowaway20, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Well cool, now I know not to pick up the game yet.

IEatDaGoat, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Eh 70 dollars for 10 hours of repetitive gameplay is bad value anyway.

biscuitswalrus,

Don’t tell competitive gamers that. LOL, CS, Overwatch, COD whatever is about a simple game loop for those who enjoy that loop.

Bartsbigbugbag,

No way, it’s only 10 hours? Eternal was longer than that, and so was 2016!

IEatDaGoat, (edited )

I finished DOOM (2016) in 8.8 hours. Granted I didn’t stop for collectables and was on normal mode. I tried Eternal but got bored after 2 hours so that’s what I’m basing it off.

My steam friends currently have about 17 hours (they bought it early) but they like collecting stuff and getting 100% achievements. I’m not sure how long the story is without 100%ing it but it shouldn’t be too different from the other games.

Aux,

Why do you even play games if you rush them? It’s like the guy a few years ago asking on Reddit if he should go past no return in Cyberpunk 2077 at level 18. The fuck, mate? You missed the whole game!

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

A bunch of people are like that, too.

It’s like buying some expensive bottle of wine, thwn chugging half. And throwing the rest away.

IEatDaGoat, (edited )

Who said I was rushing? Gathering the collectables is a chore so I just progressed through the story and finished it.

Edit: Also my friend 100% the new Doom game on the highest difficulty in 21 hours. Doom games are short in general.

Blackmist,

I did all the fixer missions in Cyberpunk and honestly wish I hadn’t bothered.

It destroyed the pacing completely, and did nothing but waste my time. Like sure, they’re not automatically generated or anything, but they don’t add anything to the game experience.

The same goes for pretty much every open world game that isn’t designed around actual exploration. If your map is a sea of icons, your open world game isn’t that.

Blackmist,

Do you also rate books by the number of pages?

This attitude here is what has fucked up gaming more than any greedy publisher ever did.

vxx,

If a book costs 80€ for a ten hour read, it’s a complete ripoff that nobody would buy.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Unless it was a new Harry Potter apparently.

vxx,

You still had the choice between a cheaper pocket book and the bound version.

ulterno,

But what if the book were titled, “Here’s how I became a millionaire” or “steps to become a millionaire” or stuff like that

vxx,

Those are still a ripoff at 1€

ulterno,

Well, it would really just be a 2 - 10 second read, depending upon how fast you read, so…

On the other hand, do you consider time taken imagining the story, as part of the reading time, because I know a book that would have a months long reading time in that case.

Dnb, do games w Hacker Broke into ‘Path of Exile 2’ Admin Account, Hijacked Wave of Characters

It was social engineering.

They compromised a Steam account via steam support to test its password and because it a linked they gained access and modified about 60 accounts.

Blamemeta, do games w Starfield Bug Forces Players to Change Gender to Fire Guns

So animations get fucked up, and you can fix them with racemenu? Sounds about right, anyone with loverslab experience could tell you that.

Naz,

Loverslab Starfield confirmed

Blamemeta,

You jest, but it has an entire section dedicated to it. And just look at the size of this thread. loverslab.com/…/217203-sex-mod-framework-developm…

Quentinp, do games w Starfield Bug Forces Players to Change Gender to Fire Guns
@Quentinp@lemmy.ca avatar

Oh that’s not going to cause any conspiracy theories at all lol!

sugar_in_your_tea,

The article links to a story about some YouTubers who went on a rant about the optional pronoun feature, so yeah, I could absolutely see this getting blown out of proportion.

Kolanaki, do games w Starfield Bug Forces Players to Change Gender to Fire Guns
!deleted6508 avatar

Confusing your rifle for your gun, again, men?

lifts weapon this is my rifle.

Grabs crotch this is my gun.

One is for fighting, the other’s for fun.

TwilightVulpine, (edited ) do gaming w Meet the Guy Preserving the New History of PC Games, One Linux Port at a Time

This is such important work, but large gaming companies now seem to want games to stop working so people will move to the next thing. That's one of the hidden business interests on tying everything to online services.

I do hope we can still manage to maintain compatibility using emulators, virtual machines and compatibility layers. Digital media is so trivial to copy and store that letting it be lost can only happen due to complete neglect.

pdqcp,

Don't forget your remaster/remakes releases

InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w Starfield Bug Forces Players to Change Gender to Fire Guns
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Cyberpunk had a bug where you couldn’t draw weapons or something similar.
The fix was to pay a hooker.

realitista, do gaming w Lawsuit Alleges Roblox Hosted Digital 'Diddy Freak-Off' Themed Games | 404 Media

Roblox is the absolute worst thing for kids.

All my kid’s friends are on it so I feel bad not allowing them to use it, but there’s no way to set it up that doesn’t allow them to access these horrible experiences without also blocking access to pretty much every normal experience.

The devs are allowed to set their own maturity level so this experience probably has the same maturity as Grow a Garden.

So I have to just constantly monitor it and manually block inappropriate stuff, but there’s a limit of 200 for blocking which I’ve already hit. It’s the worst.

MITM0, (edited ) do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Selaco is much better than this. It’s basically F.E.A.R+Classic doom

It runs on linux & utilizes the GZDoom engine & for some reason attacked by the anti-woke mob

gradual,

Just torrent your games.

Stop rewarding companies for taking advantage of you.

ulterno,

Just don’t run their shitty silicon burners on your system and get some good stuff.
Support teams that are willing to make builds for the latest Arch release (and tell me too if you find any :P).

I have narrowed down my “to pay” list to GoG + Linux games, only problem being, since they are not open source, we still depend upon them rebuilding the binaries for the latest systems. Otherwise, we need to then keep an older version of Ubuntu for it. Really wish GoG pushed Debian as a standard for those cases (for old games which the dev might not rebuild), because Ubuntu ages worse than Debian, when out of LTS.

13igTyme,

I completely forgot about that game. I played an early demo and thought it was pretty good.

AlmightyTritan, do gaming w A Small Steam Game Shows How LLMs Could Kill the Dialogue Tree (re: Verbal Verdict demo)

I don’t think we’ll see this any time soon, because corpos probably won’t listen to any creative that presents this, but I want something where the LLM runs locally and is just used to interpret what you are asking for but the dialogue responses are all still written by a writer. Then you can make the user interaction feel more intuitive, but the design of the story and mechanics can just respond to the implied tone, questions, prompts, keywords from the user.

Then you could have a dialogue tree that responds with a nice well constructed narrative, but a user who asked something casually vs accusatory might end up with slightly different information.

Fauxreigner,

Unless you’re willing to put in some kind of response that basically says “I’m not going to respond to that” (and that’s a sure way to break immersion) this is effectively impossible to do well, because the writer has to anticipate every possible thing a player could say and craft a response to it. If you don’t, you’ll end up finding a “nearest fit” that is not at all what the player was trying to say, and the reaction is going to be nonsensical from the player’s perspective

LA Noire is a great example of this, although from the side of the player character: the dialogue was written with the “Doubt” option as “Press” (as in, put pressure on the other party). As a result, a suspect can say something, the player selects “Doubt”, and Phelps goes nuts making wild accusations instead of pointing out an inconsistency.

Except worse, because in this case, the player says something like “Why didn’t you say something to your boss about feeling sick?” and the game interpreted it as “Accuse them of trying to sabotage the business.”

memfree,

Ooooh, I’d like that! Well, there’s 3 parts to the (random user input / scripted game output) conundrum:

  1. I think it is fair that if you ask, ‘Why didn’t you say something?’ the NPC might either respond as if it is being accused of sabotage, answer the damn question, lie, or prefer not to talk about it (it’s personal).
  2. I’d keep a short list of standard options – probably in a collapsed scroller kinda thing so you could either verbally say or type whatever you want, OR you could click an arrow to pick from a list. That way lazy or stuck players wou;dn’t have to think of all the options, and players interested in roleplaying could do as they please.
  3. I’m OK with, “I’m not going to respond to that”. I’d hope each character had several variations of that, but I think it is legitimate for NPCs to dislike being pestered. Shopkeepers might have replies like, “Are you gonna buy something or are you just here to bend my ear?” or “I don’t see how that relates to my inventory.” Random townies might reply, “Do I even know you?” or “Would you PLEASE stop bothering me.” or “You’re harshing my mellow, man. Shhhh… Just chill.”
catloaf, do gaming w Watch This Guy Play ‘Doom’ on a Toothbrush

And unlike the pregnancy test, this one appears to be actually running on it, not just using the case as a shell around your own hardware.

td_sp, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

but the linux circlejerk swears game support is on par with windows!

CarbonatedPastaSauce,

It is, except for the ones that come with built in APTs.

vividspecter,

It’s because of testing the game on different versions of Proton, which is treated as a hardware change. The fault lies entirely with Denuvo, and with anti-consumer DRM in general.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Rule 1 of Lemmy: Worship Linux, or be subjected to poor treatment, unfortunately.

catsarebadpeople,
@catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works avatar

You seem like a sad and angry person

bassomitron,

I’m not a huge Linux stan, but it’s pretty damn close to it. I rarely run into compatibility issues, and when I do, there’s a very high chance a workaround exists. Hell, there’s even times when a game actually runs smoother on Linux.

In regards to the topic at hand, Denuvo’s activation limit fucks over Windows users, too. It just happens far more often due to the compatibility layer (e.g. proton, wine, etc) making it look like it’s a new computer trying to access the Denuvo servers for a game each time you change it when testing (e.g. proton v8, v9, experimental, etc). That being said, you don’t usually need to change the version that often. I usually only need to try 1-3 versions before finding one that works the best, and I think the Denuvo daily limit is like 4-5, but I could be wrong.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

And the windows circlejerk says private, secure, performant OSes that also play most games are trash not worth trying. Hm.

bitjunkie,

It’s not a circlejerk to want to play a game I’ve paid for

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Weirdly defensive about something that you yourself admitted that no one accused you of being

bitjunkie,

I’m saying calling it a circlejerk is unnecessarily derisive when the post I was responding to even calls out that Linux alternatives play most games. Most games is not all of my games. I’m not a Microsoft fanboy by any stretch, but if it’s the only way to play a game I want to play, that is what I’ll do.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

I despise the term “circlejerk” and was only using it sarcastically. But in any case, I do grow tired of people shitting on linux. The reasons? I have explained a million times.

I mean, either deal with windows and its 1000 flaws or the same with linux. Some of us would just rather deal with flaws that are honest. I’d rather deal with a bug that 100 people around the globe work together to fix in a timely matter than deal with shit-ass “features” that actively ruin my experience because some disgusting executives want to buy more Porsches this summer. While pretending to care about me as a customer.

Cue “I just want to play games”. Well yeah me too sometimes. Now that I have an AMD card, I never have a problem with it. I spent a lot of time testing my games and 86% worked fine. This included a lot of sketchy/old games (Jedi Knight 1 and 2 for example – those barely can work on anything newer than win 98) that I didn’t expect to work actually… If we’re only talking new games, it’s probably like 95%. I don’t play games enough to care about an occasional poorly-written game not working.

bitjunkie,

To each his own. I wasn’t knocking Linux, just responding to what I interpreted as an insinuation that anyone has a shrine to Bill Gates in their closet just because they still haven’t made the jump.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

I get that. I do think some people are pretty closed minded on the topic but you don’t seem to fit that bill. MS is not playing the long game though. Even my brother who has been against the idea of Linux forever is coming around. He’s installed it and playing around with it lately. He might just convert one day…

bitjunkie,

That’s aligned for the moment because I’m not playing the long game, either. I’d ditch Windows at a moment’s notice if not for a handful of “must-have” games that protondb says still require tweaking. I configure system crap all day at work; I categorically refuse to do any of that in my already sparse game time.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You’re trying to tell me windows “just works”?

Between updates taking time and breaking shit, drivers constantly demanding updates, auto start programs that slow your machine down and pop up prompts, new “features” in windows asking your time, literal ads in the OS, and I’m sure I could list more examples if I took time, windows hasn’t “just worked” for me in a long time. I was a daily power user of it from about 1997-2014. Which is why I hate it. On Linux, out of that list I experience an update breaking something once or twice a year, and sometimes having to copy paste some config vars on a game. Sometimes (like one in ten).

When I had an Nvidia card it was admittedly different. Not very stable because Nvidia chooses to be assholes. On an AMD card things are solid. Not much configuration when I do game

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

It is if anti-cheats & DRMs are not included in the package

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Rozkład rzeczywistość to już tylko kwestia czasu. Niezauważone zmiany tego typu będą sobie wsiąkać w wiedzę publiczną, deklasując wszelki wcześniejszy poziom trollingu z użyciem Wikipedii czy mętnych źródeł…

Xttweaponttx, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

After how id treated my man Mick Gordon, I’m torrenting cracked versions of their games here on out - pulling the patient gamer card.

Fuck the management at id. Just another corporate machine.

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