404media.co

guyrocket, do gaming w Meet the Guy Preserving the New History of PC Games, One Linux Port at a Time
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

I appreciate that many older games are still available on Steam either "maintained" as in the article or "remastered". Someday soon I will buy Total Annihilation...again...on Steam this time.

But I do not understand why games are seen as disposable, temporary media. Sure the latest titles are flashy but there are plenty of fucking awesome older games that are still fun to play. And as physical media disappears it becomes much more important for the gaming industry to stop pulling the ladder up behind themselves. History matters. Old <> bad.

There should be an equivalent to the classic rock stations for video games. I greatly appreciate the efforts of the MAME, archive.org and Mr. Lee to keep the classics alive.

TwilightVulpine, (edited ) do gaming w Meet the Guy Preserving the New History of PC Games, One Linux Port at a Time

This is such important work, but large gaming companies now seem to want games to stop working so people will move to the next thing. That's one of the hidden business interests on tying everything to online services.

I do hope we can still manage to maintain compatibility using emulators, virtual machines and compatibility layers. Digital media is so trivial to copy and store that letting it be lost can only happen due to complete neglect.

pdqcp,

Don't forget your remaster/remakes releases

belated_frog_pants, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]

Cool i wont be buying it then. DRM only hurts legit customers

nullpotential, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]
@nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My inability to afford a GPU with raytracing is locking me out of the game.

Xttweaponttx, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

After how id treated my man Mick Gordon, I’m torrenting cracked versions of their games here on out - pulling the patient gamer card.

Fuck the management at id. Just another corporate machine.

teawrecks, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]

Yep, this is an old problem with Denuvo, new proton version looks like a new system. I guess if the containerization is perfect, Denuvo won’t be able to solve this and retain the same functionality.

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]

This is why we don’t support games with malware in them.

atlien51, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Pause?

grrgyle, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Urge to pirate, rising…

YiddishMcSquidish,

Necessity*

Showroom7561,

I’ve downloaded software that I had paid for, simply because of the bullshit involved with DRM, licence unlocking, etc.

If the user experience of a paid software or service is inferior to a pirated version, then the developers are doing something wrong.

grrgyle,

Same. At a minimum, I remember having to d/l no-CD cracks to get around the annoying and totally unnecessary disc DRM (that required you to insert the disc, just to prove you had it).

Showroom7561,

While the CD checks are absolutely annoying, nothing, and I mean nothing, was more inconvenient than having to go to a certain page and a certain line and a certain word in the manual to unlock a program you paid for. Fucking infuriating.

grrgyle,

Shuddderr. I remember the first time I saw a game do that, I thought oh what a fun little game I guess it’s to get me to use the manual… like some kind of ARG, but when I realized the real purpose all the joy was sucked out of it.

Goronmon,

Or you could always just not play the game? Is that not an option?

grrgyle,

But I’m already doing that. I want to do my part to dissuade bad software practices.

Who am I kidding I’m just going to keep working through the Cacowards forever.

Etterra, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Why though?

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Read the article?

MystValkyrie, (edited ) do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Aww, that’s disappointing. Linux users with a DS or who use emulators should look into Orcs & Elves in the meantime. It’s another fantasy-flavored FPS from ID and it’s pretty good.

VagueAnodyneComments,

Orcs & Elves dude, sick, i never heard of this one 👍

User79185, do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Meanwhile, DRM-free Doom (2016) is here, it also runs quite good >>> www.gog.com/en/game/doom_2016

pyre,

with good music too

cupcakezealot, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

why is there drm and anti cheating on a single player game

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

DRM - Copy protection Anti-cheat - Data harvesting, albeit Doom doesn’t have one

MITM0, (edited ) do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Selaco is much better than this. It’s basically F.E.A.R+Classic doom

It runs on linux & utilizes the GZDoom engine & for some reason attacked by the anti-woke mob

gradual,

Just torrent your games.

Stop rewarding companies for taking advantage of you.

ulterno,

Just don’t run their shitty silicon burners on your system and get some good stuff.
Support teams that are willing to make builds for the latest Arch release (and tell me too if you find any :P).

I have narrowed down my “to pay” list to GoG + Linux games, only problem being, since they are not open source, we still depend upon them rebuilding the binaries for the latest systems. Otherwise, we need to then keep an older version of Ubuntu for it. Really wish GoG pushed Debian as a standard for those cases (for old games which the dev might not rebuild), because Ubuntu ages worse than Debian, when out of LTS.

13igTyme,

I completely forgot about that game. I played an early demo and thought it was pretty good.

narc0tic_bird, do gaming w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game [404 Media]

Jup, I just never buy games with Denuvo these days.

Under Windows, the 5 machine activations per 24 hours limit they impose wasn’t something I ever hit, but under Linux it’s kind of easy because, as the article states, switching Proton versions counts as a machine activation to Denuvo.

Ah, Microsoft. Just when I thought you understood how to properly release a game with South of Midnight and TES: Oblivion Remastered: Steam Deck verified, no Denuvo or other intrusive DRM (doesn’t mean the games are DRM free), available on multiple storefronts. Along comes Doom and they just couldn’t resist Denuvo. Idiots.

Lembot_0002,

Along comes Doom and they just couldn’t resist Denuvo.

The important question is whether we, players, could resist Denuvo. Most of us fail in even more obvious shit-showeling.

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

Doom 2016 launched with a 44k player peak on Steam, Doom Eternal with a 100k peak and Doom: The Dark Ages only got a 30k peak.

Either most people play on Game Pass, think the game is too expensive, don’t have raytracing compatible hardware or don’t like Denuvo.

Whatever it is, the game doesn’t seem to be doing so great.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Eternal had Denuvo, but it was removed a year ago, so it probably doesn’t have to do anything with the lower numbers on Steam.

My guess is mainly price and RT.

stephen01king,

Or people didn’t care about Denuvo back then, but they are more wary about buying games with Denuvo now.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Dragons Dogma 2 has Denuvo and a 230k peak. Wukong has Denuvo and 2.4 million peak. FIFA 25, Denuvo, 110k peak (all three just from Steam).

“Normal people” don’t care about DRM.

stephen01king,

Yeah, maybe you’re right.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Under Windows, the 5 machine activations per 24 hours limit they impose wasn’t something I ever hit, but under Linux it’s kind of easy because, as the article states, switching Proton versions counts as a machine activation to Denuvo.

That limit isn’t mandatory with Denuvo and Doom apparently doesn’t have it. On Steam some games mention a limit on the store page, like Atomfall, Atomic Heart or a few Assassin’s Creed games.

The Dark Ages EULA does mention something like Denuvo “may” limit installations, but then never says anything else.

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • rowery
  • test1
  • esport
  • Technologia
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • fediversum
  • ERP
  • krakow
  • muzyka
  • shophiajons
  • NomadOffgrid
  • informasi
  • retro
  • Travel
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • gurgaonproperty
  • Psychologia
  • Gaming
  • slask
  • nauka
  • sport
  • niusy
  • antywykop
  • Blogi
  • lieratura
  • motoryzacja
  • giereczkowo
  • warnersteve
  • Wszystkie magazyny