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BigChicken, w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

Least buggiest? Are we just giving up on English, “journalists?”

Chozo,

I think the title is a joke about how Bethesda games are notoriously always full of bugs. Like, to the point that it's just expected for any new Bethesda game to be a bug-riddled mess at launch.

Hell, there are still bugs in Skyrim that never got patched, even after they re-released it onto modern platforms. Not even obscure bugs, but things normal players will encounter in their playthroughs.

meco03211,

It’s crazy that they haven’t used things like the unofficial patch to fix their own damn game. Like they could pretty much just copy paste that shit and be fine. But no. More than a decade later and that shit is still around and even propagated to things like FO4 and FO76.

conciselyverbose,

Someone distributing it for free doesn't mean they can legally just put it in their code and sell it.

If it is licensed in a way they can use it, they'd still have to do a bunch of testing and validation to actually do it.

mindbleach,

That’s still orders of magnitude easier than figuring it out from first principles, and nowhere near arduous enough to excuse leaving the problems unaddressed.

conciselyverbose,

It's not that simple. Even using it as a base gets you into a legal gray area. Learning from a work and incorporating elements into your own work is legal, but copying someone else's legwork like this is legally murky even if you don't take the actual code.

mindbleach,

Yeah I’m sure Microsoft-owned Bethesda is shaking in their boots about learning from modifications to their own game. That’s gotta be everything stays buggy.

Buddahriffic, (edited )

If an employee writes code for a company, the employer* owns the copyright.

If an individual writes code on their own time, they own the copyright.

If someone publishes a free mod containing code, that mod could contain a combination of that person’s code, code from other contributors, and even other copyrighted code that none of them had the right to in the first place but it either hasn’t been noticed or isn’t being pursued because there’s not likely any money in it anyways.

It’s that murky area that I’m guessing they’d want to avoid. They might be more likely to hire the modder to do that again from scratch for them than to use their work directly. Blizzard did that back in the day with two (that I know of) of the people writing modding tools for StarCraft. Their tools remained on the modding site and were never officially adopted by Blizzard but the authors worked on the WC3 map editor to add some of that functionality right into the official map editor that was going to be released with the game.

Edit: corrected a mistake where I said the opposite of what I intended to (that the employee owned the copyright rather than the employer)

mindbleach,

Hiring the modder is not necessary, to look at a mod, go ‘oh that’s what we did wrong,’ and fix it. That’s not the ctrl+c/ctrl+v situation you seem to expect. And considering it’s their own game, and fixing bugs, the legal concerns are practically nonexistent.

If an employee writes code for a company, that employee owns the copyright.

Bet.

Buddahriffic,

Oops thanks for putting that out, corrected.

For the first point, it might be more of a patent thing than copyright, because you can patent improvements you come up with for someone else’s invention.

Though another angle might be that game studios want to avoid encouraging a freelance game improvement market where people look to financially gain from swooping in and making improvements to their games. It might result in improvements they already planned to make but hadn’t gotten to being blocked by patents and license demands. I don’t agree that this is something that should be avoided, though I don’t think current IP laws would make this a desirable system for anyone other than lawyers.

That’s not to say that it’s legally impossible to figure out how to navigate pulling in community changes to the main game, there’s just complications involved that so far Bethesda has preferred to avoid. They might even just want to avoid a case going to court to set some kind of precedent because it might involve paying royalties to modders. IMO they would deserve to be paid if their work gets pulled into the game directly or indirectly, and even just as modders adding value to the base game I think maybe they deserve some compensation for their efforts.

mindbleach,

I don’t even know who you’re talking to at this point. It bears little resemblance to anything I’ve written.

Buddahriffic,

Just generally rambling about reasons why companies might not want to adopt user-authored changes in their main game.

There’s copyright that applies to code (which would cover copy/paste). There’s parents that apply to ideas (which might still cover cases where you didn’t use copy/paste). And there’s precedence where if you do something one way one time, others might expect you to continue doing it that way even if you intended it to be a one-off (which might overlap with both of those).

RedditWanderer,

He’s saying the “Least buggiest” is not proper phrasing. It should be something along the lines of “the least buggy/bugged” and it’s a pretty bad title for someone claiming to be a “journalist”.

Chozo, (edited )
RedditWanderer,

Doesn’t matter what he claims, he just wrote an article for a publishing/news/media company. That’s called journalism, professional or not.

jour·nal·ism /ˈjərnlˌizəm/ noun the activity or profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or preparing news to be broadcast. “she had begun a career in journalism”

Chozo,

Now define "claim" (verb).

ryven, (edited )
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It doesn’t have to be “proper” if it works as a joke. It implies that a Bethesda game can’t be merely “buggy,” it must be the “buggiest,” even if it’s (paradoxically) less buggy. So, “least buggiest.”

Frozengyro,

I seems in general journalism has gotten worse and worse with their grammar. I honestly wonder if their editors even look at even the title before things are posted online.

Chthonic,

When I used to do copywriting for junk SEO, I began to suspect that my editor didn’t actually read anything I wrote and just passed it through a content uniquness filter, so I started putting in random references to HP Lovecraft stories in the articles I got assigned.

They all got published, no questions asked. For a while if you searched “Homeopathy and the Esoteric Cult of Dagon” my content was the only result

echodot,

For a while? So are other companies now hustling in on your game.

tal,
@tal@kbin.social avatar

I imagine that LLMs have been trained on his reviews by this point and are vigorously producing articles exploring the intersection of pop gaming and the Elder Things.

Iunnrais,

Alas, I just tried searching that and a few close variants, and find nothing but this Memmy post.

Chthonic,

Hah, this was about 10 years ago - I doubt anything I wrote is still around.

Buddahriffic,

Ah damn, I guess the internet monks didn’t make new copies of your articles before they feel apart and decayed to dust. Too many monks these days probably follow the flashier acrobatic martial arts career path.

Though they are doing a good job of preserving the ancient internet memes.

bazo,

What are editors? — journalists probably

tal,
@tal@kbin.social avatar

I mean, an automated grammar checker should get this. Shouldn't even require a human editor.

https://languagetool.org/

Plugging it in there catches it and suggests "least buggy".

Buddahriffic,

Rewording things is also one of the few things that LLMs seem to be able to reliably do, too.

Franzia,

Our first public comment about Starfield being a polished game came from journalist Tyler McVicker, who’s currently under an embargo for the title.

Wow they name dropped a youtuber. Nevermind, went to my favorite source for gaming, Dexerto, aaaand it’s the same shit.

emeraldheart, w Starfield is now available for pre-load on Steam

I don’t trust like that.

dan1101,

What do you mean?

omgitsaheadcrab,

Buy games once they’re out and reviews don’t claim it’s a buggy mess

TheQuietCroc, w What Twisted Metal's Success Means for Future Video Game Adaptations

I’m more excited about season 2 than I am happy with the first season. I liked Sweet Tooth’s story and the characters in general except for John Doe. Both his character and Anthony Mackie’s performance were really lackluster in my opinion, and it felt like Anthony was really forcing the humor the whole time.

Stephanie Beatriz killed it, as expected. I thought her backstory was really interesting and appropriately ridiculous for the setting.

I’m hoping season 2 leans into more of the car combat and the ridiculousness of the setting.

Mongostein,

I was thinking to myself, “John Doe really reminds me of Will Smith in Independence Day, but slightly less corny.”

Then his Anthony Mackie Jr showed up as young John Doe and I was like, “oh, he IS just as corny as Will Smith”

TheQuietCroc,

I was thinking “Anthony Mackie is really channeling his inner Will Smith” after the first episode!

Quentinp, w Grim Dawn will be receiving a third expansion: Fangs of Asterkarn
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New Titan Quest and now a Grim Dawn expansion \o/

LapGoat, w What Is Warfork and Its Dash Mechanic?
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most excellent, more people should play this game.

warfork is free on steam, and is a quality quake clone that makes a lot of the speedrunning techs from quake much more accessible, while also adding a movement redirect. results in speedy fast gameplay.

high skill ceiling and a lot of fun, with no microtransactions.

NightOwl, w Suda51 would like to make a new Shadows of the Damned game, ideally with Shinji Mikami involved

Played through this on rpcs3 at 4k/60. So highly recommend it for those that haven’t played it. Art design holds up really well.

roofuskit, w More than 70 titles have received Intel XeSS support, and there are no plans to stop now.
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Pinball and Gotham Knights, impressive.

all-knight-party, w A Thorough Look at Fallout [Revised/Expanded/HD]
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Noah is one of my favorite games analysts of all time. An excellent, excellent writer.

memerifficguitarguy, w Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon debuts at No.1 | UK Boxed Charts

I have never played an AC game before, is it fun combat mechanics?

Gullible,

Story’s fantastic, game mechanics are great, movement feels nice. Avoid if you get motion sickness.

memerifficguitarguy,

Thank you!

platypode,
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Hell yeah. Never played AC before as well–picked this one up on launch day and have been having an absolute blast. It’s FromSoft, so it kicks your teeth in a little bit, but once you get the hang of the combat system and make sense of the info on your screen it’s a ton of fun. If you like the dark souls style of combat (heavy emphasis on dodge-and-punish, demands near-perfect execution), you’ll like AC.

prole,

It’s fucking fantastic. The movement feels great, and combat makes you feel like a god sometimes with the shit you pull off. The game is a ton of fun.

Pxtl,
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It’s a compromise between the classic AC games that were a bit more mech-y and a Soulslike (note that even the classic games were very fast-paced, we’re not talking about Mechwarrior here). Some people call it “Sekirobot” because it’s moved away from a few of the mech-y aspects and is more about high-speed soulslike combat but with a rocket-pack, guns, and homing-missiles.

Personally I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

blergh, w Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon debuts at No.1 | UK Boxed Charts

A question for AC veterans: does the presence of a lock-on change things too much? Is it way easier now?

prole,

I haven’t played the series since AC2, and I was pretty young so I don’t recall how tough the aiming was, but no I wouldn’t say the way they implement it in this one makes it too easy at all.

If you are set on using the old method, there’s a way to turn it on relatively early in the game. I tried it for a few minutes, and it made the already somewhat difficult game impossible (for me). Your mileage may vary.

That said, the game is an absolute blast to play, I’m enjoying it so much. Even just the movement feels so goddamn good. From Software has done it again. And it’s not too “souls-y” at all imo. The only real From Soft staple I’ve noticed so far is amazingly well designed (and often tough as nails) boss fights.

Gullible,

It’s a wholly different style of play at close range. There’s no way to “get behind” an enemy AC as they turn on a dime and so do you. At long and mid range, it feels similar. It’s really not comparable to older games as you don’t feel like you’re in a giant robot most of the time- movement is prioritized for better and worse. I still like it but had to reconcile with that early on.

Pxtl,
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Yes. Things they changed from classic AC that I like: The assault-flight mode, the cooldown-based weapons, mouse and keyboard controls, some difficult and interesting bosses. The fact that you don’t have to pay for failed missions. Removing stunlocking.

Things I don’t like: fast rotation, loss of radar, general sameyness of the ACs compared to the more extreme oldschool designs. Sometimes it feels like the only important decision is “twogun or sword”.

Things I’m not sure about because they’re obviously “Sekirobot” but the old AC approach had some flaws: the new energy model, the boost-dodges, the new stun model.

Things about oldschool AC I’m disappointed still haven’t been replaced: The fact that buy/sell/install hasn’t been unified into a single screen instead of jumping back and forth between 3 screens. The fact that you don’t automatically start skating by default - why do you ever want to walk in modern Armored Core?

It’s a good compromise between Souls and AC, but there are definitely things I miss about the early games.

runigagagaga, w New World: Rise of the Angry Earth - Announcement Trailer

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Duxon, w GeForce Now is shutting down in Russia

Hopefully more service to follow.

Blizzard, w Former Sony executive joins Xbox to lead Japanese partnership operations

High treason!

oscarlavi, w New World: Rise of the Angry Earth - Announcement Trailer

I’m glad this game is still getting regular support even though I’ve stopped playing. There aren’t enough games like this that stick around

Sunforged,

I really enjoyed it, just got burned out from the MMO perpetual grind. I think about going back but have no interest trying to “prove” myself to competent players in order to have a good time.

Conyak, (edited ) w New World: Rise of the Angry Earth - Announcement Trailer

I honestly had no idea this game was still running. I thought it had died long ago. Not hating or anything. I’ve never played it. I just have not heard anything about it for a long time.

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