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Anonymousllama, (edited ) w Unity May Never Win Back the Developers It Lost in Its Fee Debacle

If the changes were launched this way, being tied to a new version in 2024 then this would have been a perfectly fair approach, you could stick with 2022 / 23 LTS for your projects and only if you want ‘new’ features would you pick up 2024 LTS and agree to the new terms.

I’ve honestly not seen much difference between major versions e.g. 2021 - 2022 LTS, so unless these new versions come out with amazing new features, devs can still stick to these old reliable versions.

It’s much better overall but the way they’ve handled this has been shithouse

TrismegistusMx, w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

I have big hopes for an open source future.

Haui, w Embracer open to divesting studios, confirms more closures are likely
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

So let me get that straight:

Instead of doing their due diligence, they just bought up as many studios as they could and are now considering selling, shrinking or closing them (I assume while keeping the IP for themselves if there is any as well as any valuable assets).

This reads like a „we need to homogenize the game industry so lobbying for anti competitive measures becomes easier.“

I still don’t understand why shit like this is even legal.

ObamaBinLaden,

At the same time, the industry is looking towards massive monopolization. I think Embracer move was also motivated by seeing how ABK was able to make a sale to Microsoft and cash out. Now everyone is trying to sell themselves, including EA. The buyers are usually trillion dollar tech, or Saudis (who currently own a very big part of the industry), and Chinese megagiants (who own the other big part of the industry). As days go by, we are looking at a landscape which could be similar to early era console wars where players were forced to tie their wagon to one horse and hope that it keeps releasing titles. This might sound a bit doomer speak, but if a studio the size of gearbox can shut down, then absolutely anyone can.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Thanks for elaborating. In other words, we need to make it illegal to buy other companies if you‘re larger than sum x and make it illegal to sell a company (because all industries have that problem) to someone like that. Got it. :)

Aurenkin, w Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty review: perhaps the best expansion pack ever made

Uhhh yeah…perhaps. I mean it sounds like it’s pretty good but that’s quite a call.

BruceTwarzen,

Cyberpunk was the best game ever made before it released

Rand0mA, w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

Well that’s a horrible thought for the gaming industry. Nintendo and Valve… and if they don’t sell the companies, they will buy majority stock, presumably for seats on the board, and buy it anyway.

Can’t they keep their fucking greedy mitts to themselves. Conglomerate mega corp shit is really starting to fuck me off.

Kaldo, (edited ) w Cyberpunk 2077 2.0's revamped police force is finally good enough
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Tbh I'm still not sure what the point of it is. In gtav you get into trouble with police if you rob shops, steal cars or drive over pedestrians, among other things like scripted missions. In saints row it's about gang warfare and them being a nuisance during your city demolition. In mafia you have to obey road laws, hide weapons from plain sight and they are generally a bigger threat.

You can't rob stuff or do heists in 2077, you can summon your own car for free at any point so no need to steal them and since you can fast travel you don't drive as much anyway. The missions that do have car chases are heavily scripted and on the rails.

Is this something just for people who want to go out of their way to fight endless waves of cops and thats it or am I missing something that makes it such a hype worthy feature?

SeedyOne,

It was a huge immersion breaker for anyone not going stealth/low profile (as the author admits he does). In fact, it was the reason I haven’t played until now. I guess I’m a patient gamer and it irked me what was missing from launch. I’d built my 2070 machine for this game years ago and now I’m stoked to have a 3080 to break it in with.

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Seems more immersion breaking to me that you can fight maxtac and get away with it in the first place, or that they all still just forget about you if you hide for a minute or two out of sight, but we'll see. Maybe I'm just missing something and will appreciate it ingame more.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Driving was a huge immersion breaker. After 15 feet, there was literally no pedestrians. There was barely no other cars on the road.

Wisely, (edited ) w The Elder Scrolls VI Is at Least Five Years Away, and Is Likely to Launch on PC, Xbox Series X|S Only

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  • WarmSoda,

    You must be new to Bethesda games.

    Wisely,

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  • CaptainEffort,

    You haven’t missed much. Since then we’ve had an aggressively mediocre Fallout game, and a horrible Fallout game. Oh, and a mobile Fallout game!

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  • CaptainEffort,

    I’m guessing they don’t see much of a need to make it just yet, considering they’re still making money off of Skyrim re-releases. But who knows.

    WarmSoda,

    All they have are Elder Scrolls and Fallout.
    Well, and now Starfield.

    Neato,
    @Neato@kbin.social avatar

    Well we saw how Starfield turned out and they worked on that for 6yr+. I'm not in a hurry to get another gamebryo title.

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah, but they can make money off Skyrim re-released until then to give them plenty of breathing room on the release date.

    Wisely,

    That’s wild that they don’t even feel the need to come out with a new game once every 20 years though.

    JasSmith,

    On the one hand I fully agree. They have plenty of resources to be working on multiple projects at once.

    On the other, it’s very easy for studios to lose their way when spread too thin. There is value in staying focused.

    On the third hand, it’s taking an absurdly long time to build their games now. It’s clear the Gamebryo/Creation Engine is no longer fit for purpose. I don’t give a fuck about object permanence for 10,000 cheese wheels. I want fewer loading screens, much better facial animations, much better lighting, much better performance, and MUCH better collision handling. Unreal proved YEARS ago that functionally unlimited polygon assets were achievable with good performance with dynamic mesh loading. Gamebryo is absolutely shitting the bed with the assets in Starfield. Maybe it wouldn’t take 5+ years to build these games if they weren’t shackled to Gamebryo.

    SnipingNinja,

    On the third hand

    Are you a mutant or an alien?

    WarmSoda,

    He’s a Bethesda coder

    bogdugg,
    @bogdugg@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It’s weird, because they absolutely need to switch things up… but also they have a winning formula and so long as the games sell they will never adapt.

    For me, the biggest fault isn’t the tech itself (at least not directly), but the game design. Every time they strap another system to that Frankenstein’s monster of an engine, those systems need to be justified in gameplay, which is harder to do the more there are. As everything grows in scale and scope, each component, whether locations or mechanics, feels less individually compelling. Then they hide mechanics behind the tech tree, which solves one issue by focusing the player experience, but now the quests feel even more bland because they need to appeal to every possible build.

    Chailles,
    @Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

    Except you’re looking at Unreal from a purely graphical perspective and as if Bethesda’s slowest process was making the engine work. If either of those two points were the issue, we’d have a whole bunch of Bethesda-style games on Unreal already, but we don’t.

    transigence, (edited ) w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Removing the mod is imposing a political viewpoint, and it's also completely performative. Why should NexusMods care if the mod exists? Everybody mods their games at their own consent.

    No non-conforming people were protected by this move.

    genoxidedev1, (edited )

    Rejecting bigotry is not supposed to be a political viewpoint.

    Addendum: "YourContentSucks" just went through my profile and downvoted everything lol what a cuck A2: Actually now that I think of it the username does kind of check out

    MindSkipperBro12,

    What rock did you sleep under? It’s ALWAYS been a political viewpoint.

    genoxidedev1,

    is not supposed to be

    MindSkipperBro12,

    Then that’s just naive.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Rejecting gender ideology isn't bigotry. Also, like I said, nobody installs mods they don't want. It literally affects zero people who don't want it to affect them.

    darq,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    Rejecting gender ideology isn't bigotry.

    Referring to a demographic as an ideology generally is bigotry, though.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Okay, but nobody has done that.

    darq,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    "Gender ideology" is doing exactly that.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Referring to gender ideology as gender ideology is putting a tidy label to a set of ideas, and makes no reference to any people whatsoever.

    darq,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    No, sorry, I'm not willing to play your stupid little word game where you try to semantically differentiate a demographic from the "ideology" that that demographic meaningfully exists and should have the right to pursue happiness in society.

    The set of ideas that you refer to includes the ideas that transgender people exist as transgender, and non-binary people exist as non-binary.

    JBloodthorn, (edited )
    @JBloodthorn@kbin.social avatar

    The only choice involved in being trans is the choice to let everyone else know (or not). They are a demographic, not an ideology.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    The concept of "trans" is part of gender ideology. They are people with an identity disorder. Conceptualizing them as "trans" can only exist if you subscribe to the concept of gender in the first place, and gender only exists as an abstraction in the minds of gender ideologues (and people who don't know any better, who have been duped by gender ideologues).

    JBloodthorn,
    @JBloodthorn@kbin.social avatar

    False. Like, completely and totally wrong. The science is clear, and you are on the side opposite of it. There are experts on one side, and you on the other. It is amazing just how many incorrect statements you are barfing out.

    Jimbo,
    @Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

    You yourself just did

    genoxidedev1,

    How come you're only defending the people putting this hateful shit on there? You aren't impressing anybody on here by "seeing both sides" if you're only seeing the modders side.

    Nexus removed a mod that may be (and has obviously been, because otherwise nobody would be making posts about it) perceived as hateful by others and you're over here defending the modders that put that shit on there because "it's political" from Nexus to take the obviously political mod down.

    On the other hand you're probably the type preaching about "Well Twitter is allowed to encourage hate speech on their site because it's their website and they're allowed to do whatever they want, you don't have to use it if you feel attacked by that", but Nexus is not? Nexus' site-wide rules don't count because they're "pushing leftist agenda" by removing mods that were never allowed there to begin with?

    "Why should NexusMods care if the mods exist?" why do you care so much if it doesn't exist any longer? If you feel that attacked by the removal of an anti-pronouns mod you can just make a new one yourself or download it from somewhere else. Or just not give a fuck/be happy like every other normal functioning human being.

    Would you care as much as to reply to this post, if they had instead instead removed a mod that added pronouns to a game? Would that not be imposing political views as well then? Or would you just not care because you care more about making non-binary people feel excluded rather than included?

    You're not making a point here. We are making this network a place that is inclusive to people all over the gender spectrum. Defending those that do not, is not making a point.

    I do not care to read any more of your replies as your points are easily dismantled even by someone that's as stupid as I am.
    If you do reply, just say yes or no to the following question, that I had posed earlier: Would you care this much if they had removed a mod that added pronouns to a game?
    Try to think as hard as you can, I do not want to read any excuse for either answer. Just imagine yourself in that situation and tell me.

    transigence, (edited )
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    It's not hateful shit, and I'm not trying to "see both sides," either. I have no quarter for gender ideologues. However, I do think that any person or business (that doesn't have any kind of monopoly status over critical services) has the freedom to refuse to serve anyone they want for any reason they want, so GN is free to take down whatever they want and they don't really owe any of us an explanation.
    And, really, I'm not defending the people who made the mod and put it up. They don't really need a defense. I'm just pointing out that the removal of it makes GN either petty activists, or scared of the left.
    Obviously gender ideologues perceive it as hateful, but so what? Gender ideologues perceive literally anything they disagree with, no matter how slightly as hateful. It's their entire brand. Would GN host mods for a game if the game itself was "hateful?" Absolutely not. And if a mod whose only function is to remove the ability to arbitrarily select your pronouns is hateful, then why isn't every single game which is supported on GN that does not offer that functionality considered hateful and have all support for it removed? The answer is simple: GN are petty activists and this is performative.
    My views on Twitter (et al) haven't changed even after its ownership changed hands from someone who I don't like to someone who I don't like a little bit less. Not that it's on-topic, but I think platforms like Twitter need to decide if they are publishers or platforms and then play by the rules set forth for those that they decided to be, no mixing and matching. §230 of Title 47 needs an overhaul.
    I really don't care that much about the mod and this event, in part because I can't afford the game nor the hardware needed to run it. But, I do have opinions on gender ideology and the behavior of public-facing organizations with respect to gender ideology.
    I'll reiterate my point: GN are petty activists (or afraid of the left).
    Yes, I would care the exact same amount. It's crummy behavior, no matter where it comes from. I can exist in the presence of ideas I don't agree with. I don't have the urge to stamp out, by fiat or coercion, every trace of any belief that differs from mine.

    userflairoptional,

    What is a “gender ideologue”?

    kmkz_ninja,

    Another way for him to say “all those things that aren’t white/male/tradwife.”

    mindbleach,

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  • transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Go climb a tree. You're a stereotype.

    mindbleach,

    More than anything, I wish your kind cared what words mean.

    genoxidedev1,

    Tldr, wanted yes/no, fuck off kindly.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Yes, you did. Don't lie.

    masterspace, (edited )

    Nexus mods has no responsibility to host an asshole’s dickery on their servers.

    No one was benefited by your comment.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    True, but the act does show everybody that they are political activists. Either that, or they're afraid of the left. Either way, it's worth pointing out. It carves out a space for competition.

    HipHoboHarold,

    Good. Let them tell everyone they’re not fascists and dont support them. Most of us will support that.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Be real, the alphabet mafia will go after their ISP and call in bomb threats and get them SWATted.

    HipHoboHarold,

    Do you have a source of this being a thing that has happened in thr past?

    SuddenlyBlowGreen,

    True, but the act does show everybody that they are political activists.

    Good.

    masterspace, (edited )

    It’s not political activitism to be a half decent human being.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Removing the mod doesn't make Nexus decent human beings. It makes them petty activists who can't bear the thought of the existence of people who don't subscribe to the same ideology as they do.

    masterspace,

    Lmao, bruh we already know you’re an asshole, you don’t have to explicitly say you put your ideology above treating people with dignity and respect, we got it.

    Chozo,

    Meanwhile, you're a petty commenter who can't bear the thought of the existence of people who host their own website with their own rules.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    Please google the “paradox of intolerance.”

    CaptainEffort,

    This has literally nothing to do with politics

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    It's literally gender ideology politics. Outside of that, there is zero reason to take down the mod. It harms nobody. It doesn't even violate their own TOS.

    CaptainEffort,

    Gender ideology isn’t a political stance, wtf are you talking about?

    This is the equivalent of me making a mod that removes all black people and calling it a political statement.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Gender ideology is literally sexual politics. The inclusion of the ability to select your pronouns (as opposed to what, I don't know, them being fixed according to the sex of the generated character?) is sexual politics. Modding that choice out is sexual politics. Removing the mod is sexual politics. Every action taken by all parties in this story is sexual politics.

    CaptainEffort, (edited )

    Sexual Politics - the principles determining the relationship of the sexes; relations between the sexes regarded in terms of power.

    Now, tell me where removing the options for pronouns in a video game fits within that definition.

    Apparently you can just add “politics” to the end of anything to try and justify discrimination. My mod that removes all black people from the game is just “race politics”, so it’s okay!

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    All of gender ideology is sexual politics. It's an attack on the conceptual model of the sexes as they are intuitively understood — an attempt to hijack the language that is used to describe the sexes in an attempt to push gender ideology into the mainstream.

    CaptainEffort,

    I’m sorry man, I wish I could help you. But this… I think you’re in a bit too deep.

    Nobody is “hijacking” anything, and nobody is forcefully pushing ideologies on anyone. It’s as simple as groups of people wanting to be treated just as well as anyone else - it’s not any more complicated than that.

    I hope eventually you find your way out of this.

    eltimablo,

    Someone posted the section it violates further up in the thread.

    DarkThoughts,

    It does:

    Content that may be generally construed as provocative, divisive, objectionable, discriminatory, or abusive toward any real-world individual or group, may be subject to moderation. This includes but is not limited to content involving politics, race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, or social class. We tolerate content related to real world issues and events as long as the appropriate tag ("Real World Issues") is used and the content is handled in a tasteful, respectful, and non-inflammatory manner. Users who do not wish to see such content should make use of our content blocking feature.

    And it is their platform, that's why they care. They can dictate what is and isn't allowed there.

    MomoTimeToDie,

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  • DarkThoughts,

    Sure, but the question was why they care, and in this case it very much is justified.

    burgundymyr,

    No non-conforming people were protected by this move.

    By taking this down, NexusMods communicated that they care about non-conforming people far more than if they had just said it. They are creating an environment where bigotry is removed rather than accepted. Nobody is saying you can’t be a bigot in private with your game, we are saying if you’re going to be a bigot we don’t want you to do it here with us because we care about the people you are excluding/hurting.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Rejecting gender ideology isn't bigotry. Removing it from a game where its present also isn't bigotry. Removing the mod is just performative slacktivism and does nothing to help anyone.

    HipHoboHarold,

    Yall said the same shit about gay people a couple years ago. It was all the same talking points, it’s just slightly modded to fit trans people now. It was bigotry then, it’s bigotry now.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Said what shit? When? What are you even talking about?

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Treating people being gay as political.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    Yup, back then it was “the gay agenda.”

    Same shit, different day.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    It's the alphabet mafia who are treating people being gay as political, not conservatives.

    pivot_root, (edited )

    Using a pejorative name to refer to LGBT… you’re not helping your argument with that one.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    When I say "the alphabet mafia," I'm not talking about gay people, bisexual people, etc. I'm referring to the bully activists who go around stirring shit and spreading lies about society and claim to represent gay and bisexual (etc.) people.

    mindbleach,

    Read: ‘I don’t hate gay people, I just hate people who tell me to stop ranting against gay people.’

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Correct. Because I don't rant against gay people and people telling me to stop are effecting a slander against me. It doesn't help me, and it doesn't help gay people. All they are doing is stirring shit and profiting from it.

    mindbleach,

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  • CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    It doesn’t help me, and it doesn’t help gay people.

    So who are you helping right now?

    pivot_root, (edited )

    I mean, look— I don’t like holier-than-thou activists either, but you need to make a distinction between them, actual activists, and the groups they’re representing. The former is an extreme minority.

    Instead of being distrustful of the movement and making yourself look like an ass by preemptively attacking, your energy is better spent not bothering. In the event you encounter a nutjob, go troll them or tell them to pound sand. I promise you, as long as you aren’t on (formerly Twitter) or Tumblr circa 2016, it’s not as common as you think.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    There are no "actual activists." There are no causes. The only thing left to fight for is the right to indoctrinate very young school children into gender ideology and show them, graphically, how to be gay.

    Snowpix,
    @Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

    You cannot show anybody how to be gay. You are either born gay, or you aren’t. Sexuality is not a choice. You need to better educate yourself.

    pivot_root,

    There are gay animals, my guy. If you’re against something as simple and widely accepted as gay rights, I don’t know what to tell you.

    For the sake of your future kids, please don’t have any, though. I’d hate for your kid to turn out gay, trans, or ace.

    atzanteol,

    My dude… “They” don’t want to make your children gay. They just don’t want your children bullying and beating up children who are.

    HipHoboHarold,

    So no one was homophobic before? The Stonewall Riots just happened because gay people were bored? The big numbers in hate crimes? The government openly saying that they wouldn’t do anything about AIDs because it affected mostly gay people? I’m guessing it was gay people who wrote the laws that got us kicked out of the military. And made it so we couldn’t get married.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    I never said that and I don't believe that. But the people who fought for civil rights for gay people aren't today's alphabet mafia.
    Oh, and the gay men who fought in the stonewall riots are the reason the G should have always come first, because it was gay men who set the foundation for civil rights for non-straight people. Not the alphabet mafia, and not lesbians.

    HipHoboHarold,

    Lol You don’t even know the basic history behind Stonewall or the queer community in general.

    Thanks for proving my point.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    State interference with and regulation of marriage is, and always was, an abomination. Marriage is a religious and societal institution, and the state only got involved to prevent miscegeny.
    The Christian church isn't going to recognize gay weddings, but anyone else is welcome to.
    I'd be happy to advocate with you in the pursuit of getting the state out of marriage.

    HipHoboHarold,

    And since the state has been involved for a long time, that means it should be open to anyone. Just as it’s been open to others such as atheists. They weren’t doing it for religious purposes. Nor were kings and queens when they would marry their children to unite kingdoms. Or people who basically married their children in exchange for cattle.

    My point isn’t to get the state out of marriage since at this point it is more so a legal document and something that couples do out of love for each other. But the idea that it’s a religious thing is ridiculous. Not to mention its hardly an argument since that means that gay people have even more rights to get married, since some church’s, including Christian ones, will do it. If anything the idea that being gay is a sin has been slowly falling out of Christianity in the same way that interracial marriages were something many Christians were against at one point. So the idea that it’s somehow an argument against same sex marriage is absolutely false, and would only open the doors even more. It doesn’t even have to be religious. Being married is just being married.

    “But some church’s wouldn’t count it!” Funny. I was raised Mormon. According to them most straight marriages don’t count either since they weren’t don’t in a Mormon temple. I don’t see others complaining that their church doesn’t recognize it.

    Not only was this just moving the goal post, but it also is one that has been discussed many times and has always been torn apart.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    I think kinship ties should be and should have always been available to declare or establish at the state level, and calling it a marriage just confuses the issue. I also don't think it should be restricted to couples, either, but it is.
    I think the churches should have their business and the state should have its own business. Modern marriage really only serves to invite the state into the bedroom, so I don't even think about it as something that should be fought for. I mean, have at it if you want it, but I think you'll find that it just invites more problems than it solves. I don't recommend anyone ever get married in 2023.

    emergencyfood,

    Marriage refers to two things - (1) a legal contract between two people, mediated by the state, and (2) societal and/or religious acceptance of two people as a married couple. Nowadays, in most parts of the world, only the first matters for most purposes. So the state should recognise all marriages, but religions and society are free to have their own conditions as long as they do not harass people they don’t like.

    too_high_for_this,

    What does Alex Jones’ dick taste like?

    mindbleach,

    Being black isn’t political, until bigots like you make it political.

    Being female isn’t political, until bigots like you make it political.

    Being queer isn’t political, until bigots like you make it political.

    Every “identity” I’ve ever been given has come through violent conservative oppression. Sometimes I’m the group they like - sometimes I’m the group they hate. But I’ve never fucking asked for the distinction.

    Gender, religion, sexuality, ethnicity… these matter as much as hair color, until some asshole decides there’s a right answer. Every flavor of “identity politics” that conservatives screech about is an abuse they invented and hurled at people until those victims stood up and shouted “Motherfucker I am.

    You don’t need pride until someone’s tried to make you feel lesser.

    Get our of our goddamn way, and stop imagining you’re the good guy. You are the entire problem. You can stop, at any time.

    HipHoboHarold,

    Everything you guys say about trans people.

    “Biology!”

    Heard that

    “It’s a fad!”

    Heard that

    “It’s mental illness!”

    Heard that

    “Society is gonna crumble!”

    Heard that

    It’s everything. Everything. Everything. Let me repeat, everything. Even down to shit like should ____ be in the military or the bathrooms or sports?

    Everything. It was bigotry back then. Its bigotry now.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    You have a very loose definition of bigotry.

    HipHoboHarold,

    No. You’re just a bigot who doesn’t like to think they are. You like the ideas, but have a problem when a negative term gets attached to it. It’s like when people weren’t “racist.” They were “race realists.” It was racism with a new logo. Similar to how when people were homophibic, it wasn’t “bigotry”, it was “Think of the children” and “the gay agenda.”

    pivot_root,

    Being hateful or disapproving of a demographic of people based on their identity?

    Fried_out_Kombi,

    gender ideology

    Nice of you to out yourself as one of the bigots. Only bigots with an agenda use that phrasing.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Everybody has an agenda. Gender ideologues are the bigots, not those who reject it. Gender ideologues maintain their fantasy of not being a bigot by accusing everyone around them of not only shit they aren't guilty of, but shit the ideologue, themselves, are guilty of. Gender ideologues are sick people, and everyone around them is not the way they say they are.

    kmkz_ninja,

    Black people were the real bigots for wanting to use the same bathroom as white people.

    Did you like to huff gasoline as a child?

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Today's gender ideology and race baiting bullshit have nothing to do with actual civil rights. Today's race-baiters are literally, openly calling for segregation.

    kmkz_ninja,

    It’s the exact same. You think trans problems are dumb, you don’t understand why “separate but equal” is problematic, and you spent too much time licking lead paint in your formative years.

    Chozo,

    Touch grass, dude.

    Ganbat,

    “I’m not a bigot for refusing to accept you, you’re a bigot for refusing to accept that I won’t accept you!”

    Lol. Lmao even.

    TipRing,
    @TipRing@kbin.social avatar

    Because the mod itself is intended as a form of political grandstanding. So that bigots can download it thousands of times and then hold it up and say 'look how many people are modding the woke out of BG3' in an attempt to discourage inclusive content in other titles.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Well, sure. Lots of people don't want woke garbage in their games. When it tops the download list the number of people who reject gender ideology is revealed. That's the real problem with it. It scares the shit out of the left because it breaks the illusion of social acceptance the left fights so ferociously to maintain by force and fiat.

    darq,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    Well, sure. Lots of people don't want woke garbage in their games.

    "Woke garbage" being things like "the existence of a type of people I think should not exist".

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Again, with the "existence" thing. Obviously people exist, but arbitrary pronouns are woke garbage.

    darq,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    Yes. Existence.

    Trans people exist. Non-binary people exist. And they exist in ways that people refer to as "woke garbage".

    Chozo,

    They're not arbitrary.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    When you decide at your choosing what they are, instead of by a deterministic set of conditions, they are, by definition, arbitrary. That's what arbitrary means. It means you choose them.

    Chozo,

    Here's the thing: They are chosen by a deterministic set of conditions. Just because you don't understand what those conditions are does not make the terms arbitrary.

    Also, that's not what "arbitrary" means, either. For somebody who seems to be so uptight about the definitions of words, you sure do invent a lot of your own definitions.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    No, they are chosen by "I identify as..." and then they make their choice. That is literally arbitrary. I don't know how you have been using the word, but you could look it up in a dictionary to see how people have historically used the word.

    Chozo, (edited )

    they are chosen by "I identify as..."

    So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we're making progress!

    Also:

    based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system

    It's not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at.

    Chozo,

    Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you?

    transigence, (edited )
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education.
    Gender is made-up bullshit.

    Chozo,

    I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit

    I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better.

    pivot_root,

    I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I’m not even convinced they actually feel like women.

    Clearly, you don’t respect them.

    I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it’s never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you’re not saying the quiet part out loud, you’re sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    Do you want a trophy?
    Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)?

    too_high_for_this,

    Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they’ll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or “ideology”?

    I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan!

    pivot_root, (edited )

    Bigots usually haven’t. It’s easier to spew hate when you’re not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    If I feel like eating pizza today, that desire comes from deterministic conditions. Me choosing to have pizza is still an arbitrary choice. If I had a cheeseburger instead of pizza because it's cheeseburger day, even if I want pizza, that's deterministic. You could argue that the schedule is arbitrary, and that's fair, but deciding for yourself what pronouns you are going to have used in your regard regardless of your sex is arbitrary.

    Chozo,

    You know gender and sex aren't the same thing, right?

    Who am I kidding, of course you know. You just don't care about the difference, because reality is meaningless to you.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably.

    Chozo,

    Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we?

    TipRing,
    @TipRing@kbin.social avatar

    Interesting that bigots are so insecure in their bigotry that they require it to be externally validated. How pitiful.

    transigence,
    @transigence@kbin.social avatar

    The insecurity is on the part of the people trying to modify the language in society by fiat when it doesn't get adopted organically.

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Like black people trying to get racists to stop using the N-word, right?

    too_high_for_this,

    That’s actually reverse racist because they won’t let me say a word just because I’m white

    /S

    SuddenlyBlowGreen,

    Lots of people don’t want woke garbage in their games.

    They’re welcome to make their own games, and host their own mods.

    When it tops the download list the number of people who reject gender ideology is revealed.

    Did it actually top the download list?

    No?

    That’s what I thought.

    it breaks the illusion of social acceptance the left fights so ferociously to maintain by force and fiat.

    Imagine telling on yourself like that 🤣

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    I can understand that having pronouns or nonbinary or trans characters in games can be a bit of a culture shock. As a culture we're beginning to grow more overall accepting of these people that have been here all along, but never felt comfortable to "be a seen part of society" out of fear. The same sort of thing happened, or is still happening, with homosexuality, though that's further along the acceptance curve than trans/nonbinary.

    Eventually it won't be so obviously "woke garbage" that sticks out to you as something noticeable and startling, and it'll be just another feature of the game like anything else, just another NPC like any other, but that one gets called "they" instead of him or her. It takes time for it all to become normalized and not be something you raise eyebrows at and feel upset by. You may always wonder sometimes what gender someone is identifying as when it may not be obvious, but it will become easier to simply ask them, or be okay with not knowing, it's okay to not know.

    I'm not going to pretend that mentally working through these things isn't a part of this whole process, but trying to somehow fight back against it by calling it all garbage and refusing to extend the hand to understand where it's all coming from is... inappropriate, we all need to get along, we all live on this planet together and the only way to make it the best it can be is to try and understand each other.

    Sure, you may have a point in there about desiring a platform where people can upload any mod they like, and that could totally be a thing, Nexus Mods doesn't want that to be their thing, specifically, and whether you're okay with that or not is your perspective, and I'm okay with that, but you should try and understand why Nexus is taking that stance. Nonbinary and trans people are on the back foot, culturally, so it's clear that many places will take a stand to hard defend their representation because they're so far behind the "biological genders" and could use a helping hand.

    MomoTimeToDie,

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  • all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    I didn't say that understanding and agreement are the same. What I wanted was for that user to understand where the other side was coming from, and acknowledge that, and if they still had a different opinion, then okay, but I just wanted to try and explain the side I'm on in a less directly hostile way than the other commenters are.

    You make some logical points, I won't go into my opinion since it already seems clear, hope you have a nice night, genuinely, people should be able to discuss this stuff maturely.

    RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
    @RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

    Hi, woke garbage here. Very trans. Enby too. Just sitting here existing at you. Existing so hard, it probably hurts you just knowing about it. I hope it does, 'cause you're a prick and you deserve it ^.^

    pivot_root,

    He’s so scared he didn’t even reply. What an incredible superpower you have! Kinda jealous tbh :)

    MomoTimeToDie,

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  • RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
    @RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

    Wow, I'm the only person that bellend didn't reply to. I feel special 🤣 Everycritter else gets a fresh pile of horsecrap, I don't even get a downvote. Works fine for me, I guess.

    genoxidedev1,

    They have been spamming me all night.

    I asked them a yes or no question and they replied with a rant, that I still didn't bother to read (because they didn't reply with either "yes" or "no") and now they're accusing me of actually having read the rant. Very reasonable people 💀👍

    mindbleach,

    If ‘trans people exist’ is a political viewpoint, it’s the kind that only monsters disagree with.

    Some questions have a right answer.

    UnrepententProcrastinator,

    Bigroty is not a political opinion. It’s just hate.

    mindbleach,

    Bigotry is a political opinion, but the idea that all political opinions deserve identical respect is really dumb.

    Some people’s ideas are bad, actually. It is fine and good to tell them where to shove it.

    The kneejerk demand for “civility” confuses polite responses for appropriate responses. Some people are monsters. Some people need to hear, “fuck off.” That is the correct attitude for a worrying number of online interactions, and if moderators won’t step up and proactively remove the bigoted propagandist time-vampires who deserve it, the least they can do is stay out of the way. ‘What you chose to say is fucking awful’ cannot possibly be more of a personal attack than being told ‘everyone like you is inherently broken.’

    TheObserver, (edited ) w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod
    @TheObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Tbh I don’t even know why the option even exists. I have 2 days worth of playtime and not once does it go on about pronouns or anything like that. So to me the menu seems completely pointless. If i can recall i also don’t think the NPCs have even referred to me as male or he/him. Maybe Bethesda added it last minute or something to try to appeal to a larger group of people idk. I’m just enjoying my spaceship man.

    ophy,

    I’m not super far in, but I have heard it. The first time I remember hearing it is in the opening act when Lin is telling Barrett about you. Also when Sam talks to the marshal about you in Akila City. I suppose there are only so many opportunities for other characters to talk about you while you’re standing right there, but it does pop up, so it’s nice to have the option for those moments.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    Do people really care what gender the MC is? I just role play as whatever gender the character is.

    If I’m playing Tomb Raider, I am Laura Croft. If I play GTA, I’m CJ or Trevor or whatever. If I’m given a choice, I’ll sometimes look up if the gender matters (e.g. in Mount and Blade it can impact relations), and otherwise just pick randomly. When there’s a character creation screen, I usually randomize it a few times and get into the game.

    I wouldn’t mind role playing as a gay or trans person, though I’d be a little worried about the content because I’m not looking for anything with relationships, I want to wreck monsters and solve puzzles.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    Depends on if the character's supposed to be a self insert. In a game with deep customization you may be trying to make yourself, and not playing as Lara Croft or Geralt, so being able to choose your pronouns helps immersion, and immersion's a big deal to many players who'll take it anywhere they can get it in a game, whether it's pronouns, or being able to see your torso and feet when you look down.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    Huh, I guess I never want to insert myself because I’m not that interesting. :) I play games to escape myself, and I really hate seeing my own name show up in games.

    But that’s probably more my personality (I hate being publicly praised) than anything else.

    ech,

    But that’s probably more my personality (I hate being publicly praised) than anything else.

    Revisit this thought whenever you consider if other people “really care” about something that you don’t instead of questioning whether inclusion is ever “necessary”.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    That’s fair.

    It’s just not something I have experience with. Even my wife, who likes public validation, also prefers to role play in games.

    But that’s the great thing about most RPGs, they have options to get whatever character model you want. So whether I understand people wanting to play as themselves or not is irrelevant. You can make your character look like yourself, I can make my character look random, and a trans person can make their character look like they see themselves. How I choose to make my character look has no impact on anyone else’s experience.

    ech,

    How I choose to make my character look has no impact on anyone else’s experience.

    Tell that to the idiots making mods like this. Not that it changes anything for anyone but themselves, but it does promote bullshit bigotry over a menu selection of all things and fully deserves to be shut down.

    And none of this is about “public validation”. It’s about having even just one more avenue for people that don’t happen to be cis white males to make a character for themselves that’s more relatable. More options should always be welcome. It hurts nobody and lifts up many.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    Yup, I agree. The mods exist to push a narrative and make others angry, that’s it.

    I could understand if Bethesda made the MC trans with no way to change that, but expanding role play options is never a bad thing IMO.

    WalrusDragonOnABike,

    Most guys choose to be guys when given the choice, for example. Apparently a lot of people do care. Gender fluid, agender people, casgender people, etc may not care or vary more.

    barsoap,

    Why would I want to stare at a man’s ass and hear his grunts for hours on end.

    WalrusDragonOnABike,

    Idk. Why would someone want to have a man's ass and voice? Seems weird to me. Yet about half of the world seem to want to be guys. And most of those are happy to be a choose to be a guy when customization is an option. I can't answer why so many guys consistently and choose to be guys in game (and sometimes have pride in their characters appearance and try to brag about their it) or some tease other people they perceived as guys for choosing to be a girl in-game when I can't understand why they want to be guys in the first place.

    For me, I relate more to those who make fun of themselves for using that excuse because they were in denial. I've definitely been there. Of course there are guys (cis or trans) who like playing as girls too; I just can't relate (aro-ace spec).

    genoxidedev1, (edited )

    I did notice it when creating my character but the only thing I thought was "Oh hey, cool"

    Edit: I thought you said you didn't notice the option even exists but I'll just leave this here anyways

    people_are_cute,
    @people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    It was most likely a Marketing/management decision, just a checkbox to fill to show people they “care”.

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Or one of the many, many people involved with development suggested it because it applied to them or someone they knew and the decision was made to include it out of respect for the people involved.

    ech,

    Or, maybe, inclusivity is never a bad thing, regardless of your personal level of cynicism. Hate the world all you want, but there are people out there that appreciate and deserve things like this.

    atzanteol,

    Ahh the old “they did the right thing for the wrong reason” argument. Maybe, just maybe, somebody at the company did actually care?

    DarkThoughts,

    When you meet Sam & Cora they'll refer to you by your pronoun while they talk about you.
    The whole thing is just to make the character generation non binary, that's it. I don't see why this is such a big deal for some people. I'm a cis male, I select a masculine body type and go with he / him, or maybe they / them, and be done with it. It does nothing but help others feel more included.

    TheObserver,
    @TheObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Ohhhh. Wow i never noticed that tbh. I was so focused on trying to win sarah over. Never met a more picky person in my life. Now she resides on europa because she bitches every time i steal or a innocent sounding dialog option makes her mad. Sam is cool every ounce and a while he says something about me stealing but it’s not as annoying. I’ve yet to come across cora. I spend so much time in the ship builder.

    DarkThoughts,

    You might've missed their initial dialog in the lodge, which happened in that garden area. You can find her typically in the basement where she has her room and she will be on board of your ship if you assign Sam onto it. The kids in Starfield are actually pretty cute and wholesome, unlike the literal spawns of Satan from Skyrim.

    TheObserver,
    @TheObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Ohhh that kid! I completely ignored that little stinker. I remember her trying to con me out of 50 creds for books. I’m too greedy for that i got ships to build.

    atzanteol,

    You probably would have noticed it if they used the wrong pronouns. Which is why the option exists…

    JokeDeity, w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

    Nintendo is a mob level boss.

    morphballganon, w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

    Game consoles are like proprietary PCs with some of the features removed. If PCs are included, couldn’t you argue game consoles are too?

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Moat electronics are proprietary computers with limited features. Consoles make no sense as an exception.

    Bluescluestoothpaste, (edited )

    I mean what features are removed exactly? They have all the components needed to install windows/mac/linux and hook up a mouse and keyboard. I really don’t see any distinction besides they come with gamepads and a gaming oriented OS instead of keyboards and a more general OS.

    cloud, w I wonder why Godot and Unreal are getting so much interest today

    Because people learn their lessons only when they get punched in the face

    jack,

    I doubt they will learn from this

    Da_Boom,
    @Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    Except this licencing change removes sustainability from all licencing models except the ones that run subscription models or advertising.

    Now they say they aren’t going to impose this crap over any not for profit or for profit that’s earning revenue under 200K. But I have serious doubts that certain scenarios are going to slip through the cracks.

    What it is essentially a way to bleed any viral indie game studio dry of their capital, which could force them to declare bankruptcy and sell off their assets.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a way to build a unity game studio.

    1. Game goes viral and reaches the threshold of 200K+ revenue
    2. Every install and reinstall of the game gets charged, costs start to outweigh profits.
    3. Money drains fast with no way to stop it.
    4. Indie company declares bankruptcy due to cash flow issues
    5. Unity demands payment for unpaid bills in assets - gets the ownership of game title as payment.
    6. Unity opens game studio and continues to sell the game, while employing minimal Devs to maintain it.

    Bam! they’ve a bunch of viral hits completely for free under their umbrella in a bunch of payments. And because they own the engine, they can make money hand over fist while stopping everyone else from doing the same.

    That said I’m sure they have separate payment and licencing deals with big AAA companies. So really it’s only the indie companies that end up with a viral hit that get screwed.

    So the other option is that they do not open a game studio and they’re merely just doing big techs dirty work and taking out their competition, while providing IP fire sales for big tech.

    That said, once the company goes after a group for failure to pay this money, I wouldn’t be surprised if a legal fight ensued in order to declare the terms of service unenforceable and/or anti consumer and have them nullified or forcibly rewritten/reverted. If that happens I’m sure the EFF or other non profit software foundation will end up providing legal funding and or services. Heck it could end up being a class action.

    jack,

    That 6-step plan is very evil, I love it. Hopefully people will now understand that proprietary software always leads to abuse. Everyone should switch to Godot.

    lorez,

    What about the tons of games that already exist and we bought? What about the games being worked on right now? This is a disaster for indies.

    jack,

    Yup.

    NateNate60,

    2022: OnlyFans wanted to ban porn

    2023: Unity wants to kill free-to-play games

    4am, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

    May your golden parachute have secretly been stuffed with lead you greedy abusive piece of shit. Fuck these bait and switch MBAs.

    underisk, (edited ) w [Spoilers] Baldur's Gate 3 has a secret, brutal game over scene for players who somehow overcome every safeguard to permanently lose a critical item
    @underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

    That ending scene is used in at least one other circumstance:

    spoilerif you kill the emperor at the start of Act 3 inside the astral prism

    It’s probably just a generic scene for miscellaneous unwinnable game states.

    Wogi,

    Your spoiler tag isn’t spoiler tagged.

    Also I saw that cutscenes once before making it as far as you describe, I don’t even remember how, pretty sure it was midway through act 2. But it’s definitely a semi generic cutscene for when you lose in a particular type of way.

    MimicJar,
    @MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

    I got it during the Act 2-3 transition. I had a fight that had to end in 3 or so turns and I didn’t make it.

    Wogi,

    That’s where it got me. I remember now

    Hoomod,

    I don’t think you can use line breaks with the spoiler markdown

    underisk,
    @underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s working fine on the client im using and I’m using the format buttons in the web-based editor. What syntax works on your guys’ end?

    baked_tea,

    I’m using Liftoff app and the spoilers are never hidden

    sadreality, w COVID And Working From Home Made Starfield Development "Very, Very Slow," Todd Howard Says

    STFU Todd...

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