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ono, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

It doesn’t surprise me at all that people have become less willing to contribute to wikis, now that the likes of Fandom/Wikia and Fextralife are the dominant wiki hosts. Who wants to give away their free labour and time to profit corporations, and have their work mired in cesspools of obnoxious advertising, awkward javascript interfaces, and web tracking?

I think what we need are independent wiki hosts. For example, have a look at bg3.wiki

blanketswithsmallpox, (edited )

Yeah I remember seeing an article about Baldur’s Gate 3 having a wiki being unique.

Simple fact is that hosting costs $$$. And you don’t get something free unless there’s ads involved or you’re so small you can cover the cost yourself.

ono, (edited )

Perhaps there’s an opportunity here for a nonprofit organization, accepting donations like wikimedia does, to offer hosting to gaming communities?

Edit:

This would not only benefit gamers directly, but also help with cultural preservation, which is increasingly problematic as games disappear from store fronts.

Also, a wiki run by a funded organization is less likely to vanish than one operated by a single person, whose circumstances might change.

JackGreenEarth,
@JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee avatar

Terraria wiki is not a fandom site

ono, (edited )

I expect you mean terraria.wiki.gg, rather than terraria.fandom.com (which was the first result in my web search). I don’t love the fact that it has a google tracker, but otherwise, it looks nice.

Looks like Pokémon also has an independent (but not tracker-free) wiki: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net

JackGreenEarth,
@JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah, terraria.wiki.gg is the official site.

DrQuint,

Pokemon even has another wiki that’s almost entirely dedicated to game data, Serebii, and yes, the design is dated, and yes, it is also the most accurate and concise source of knowledge for the series.

AlexWIWA,

To help your point. Halopedia is still extremely active and will have info from new books within a week. The site has their own software and it’s community run, so people still feel engaged.

I think you’re entirely on the money

Anticorp, do games w PSA: If you still have a Mojang account for Minecraft: Java Edition, you have less than a week left to migrate to a Microsoft account to avoid profile deletion

Does this mean we’ll need to pay for the game again if we don’t do it in time?

lazycouchpotato,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

That does appear to be the case at this moment.

hoshikarakitaridia, (edited )

Sidenote, I have a feeling that’s straight up illegal under contract law. IANAL though.

Edit: Just so ppl have something specific: you bought access to the service. It’s probably gonna be limited in the User Agreement as “if this service has to be shut down, you agree to lose your access and you don’t sue to get your money back”. But this is a backend migration and I’m fairly sure this is not something they had in their original contracts. That’s why sniff a broken contract and when they don’t refund your money, I sniff broken laws.

Comment105, (edited )

If it’s not, it should be.

We can write laws and vote then into power, we can fuck up whatever company we want to.

HeckGazer,

☠️🏴

Aielman15, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

A subscription seems like the exact opposite of what GoG stands for. I buy a game, I own it forever. How does a subscription improve that?

Th3D3k0y,

Select a game from a catered library to be granted lifetime ownership? Like rent to own perhaps?

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

But they specifically don’t appear to be talking about that

alehel,

I got the impression they’re aiming more for a “fan club” kind of thing where you get access to articles/videos/Q&A/voting rights, etc. So more a kind of Patreon like many creators have. I didn’t get the impression that this would in any way change the business model of the store.

elvith,

I also got this survey and I had the same feeling. It felt more like a patron for their game preservation program with possible features like a members-only-community, interviews or documentation about the preserved games, their publishers/studios and the efforts to keep them running or some kind of loyalty rewards/discount coupons. Maybe even ‘special builds’ like ‘experience the OG version 1.0 of $game’.

There was one option, that I interpreted like ‘maybe we will put future compatibility updates after purchase (e.g. supporting Windows 12 or whatever) behind the membership’ - but that’s purely my interpretation of a single bullet point style line in that whole several page long survey

daggermoon,

If that’s the case, I may be interested. I’d still like Galaxy on Linux before I give them additional money.

Abnorc,

Yeah I’m not at all against the idea of throwing a few bucks at them per month for something, but I just don’t see anything that fits in the context of why I use GOG in the first place. Voting rights doesn’t seem like a bad idea. Ideas like earlier versions of games, tools that help with backup, etc should be offered for free or sold for a one-time cost IMO.

ILikeBoobies,

Source code access to your library?

Not sure what else they can offer

owl, do gaming w Tetris
@owl@infosec.pub avatar

Weren’t high score games a staple of arcades long before tetris?

orbitz,

The whole reason to put ASS in the scoreboard, so yes.

peteyestee,

I am ASS.

Ephera,

Yeah, that post tried maybe a little too hard to portray high score games as always losing. You win, if you get a better score than before or whatever score you’re happy with. Of course, this requires setting challenges for yourself on which to grow, so it could only ever have come from turbo-capitalist 'Merica …or something.

Jolteon, do games w Avowed made me scream to my doctor: “I am a wizard!”

I doubt that’s the weirdest thing the doctors have heard people under those drugs say.

Anarch157a, do games w Petition Activision Blizzard and Grinding Gear Games to ban Elon

Activision certainly won’t. They’re owned by the same Microsoft that just bribed the Orangutan in Chief: web.archive.org/…/microsoft-1-million-trump-inaug…

There’s zero chance they’ll risk Melon lashing back at them because of a stupid game.

sapphiria,
@sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Still worth flooding their inboxes. Make it more expensive for them to keep him unbanned.

Lost_My_Mind,

That’s not how this works.

glimse, do games w What games have you put the most hours into?

The game in my Steam library with the most hours played is…PAYDAY 2.

But I didn’t actually play a thousand hours of it. In the late 2010s, the heat in my condo barely worked and our self-managed association refused to acknowledge it because “nobody else [was] having problems with their heat.” I had all the windows plasticed up with heavy blankets literally nailed to the wall. I had to abandon the living room and bedroom entirely. I emptied the smallest room (12x10) and moved my mattress and desk in there…In addition to the playpen for my two rabbits that took up the rest of the free space.

You might be wondering what that has to do with PAYDAY 2. Well…the game revved up my video card to max on the main menu so my PC became a supplementary heat source at night…

Good times. Thanks, PAYDAY devs!

ETA: In the spring, the guy who handled yardwork noticed the flowerbed was kind of sinking on one side of the building. That’s when they discovered a leak in the radiator line…small enough that 11 units didn’t notice but big enough for the water pressure to not reach the farthest unit from the boiler…the unit I owned…

50_centavos,

Aren’t space heaters pretty cheap? Probably didn’t need to add wear and tear to your GPU.

glimse,

I had a space heater in there, too. It was not enough.

OmgItBurns,

The solution is always more space heaters. There are 0 safety issues with this plan.

50_centavos,

Or just use use your PC like a normal person.

Xenny, do gaming w Anyone have a sudden loss in gaming?

Boredom is your brain urging you too change your behavior. The magic of gaming will return if you take a nice break and focus on yourself and other things. At least it works that way for me.

Alteon,

Yeah, I find I need to read a book or find some other way to engage my brain - woodworking, painting, gardening, etc… The enjoyment comes back.

icecreamtaco, do games w How many Nintendo Switches do I need for a family of gamers?
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Just buy one switch and maybe a few extra controllers, and plug it into the living room tv. You’re making this way more complicated than it needs to be

SomeGuy69,
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, also with physical games, it might be possible to save money, unless they all want to play the same game at the same time.

dhork, do games w How many Nintendo Switches do I need for a family of gamers?

We got a switch when it first came out, that was the only switch we had as a family for a while. It was shared just like any other console. Games like Mario Kart are just as playable on one switch as they are on prior platforms, if you buy more controllers.

Eventually, as the kids got older, we got them switch lites so they could play games on their own. Physical cartridges are definitely sharable, the only catch is that (of course) you can only play one copy at a time and some games have an online/group play component that you can’t experience with one cartridge. So, for instance, Animal Crossing has one island per switch, so if you have two switches in the household you could swap the cart back and forth and both switches can play the game by swapping the cartridge, but characters from one can’t visit the other unless both games are running at the same time. We have bought an embarrassing number of Animal Crossing carts.

Digital copies are tied to a Nintendo account. You can only have one “primary” switch attached to the account. That Switch will be able to run the games on the account without phoning home first. If that account is logged into other switches, they do get access to the games, but only if the non-primary switch has internet access to validate that the game is not being played by any other switch on the account. (I ran into this issue whe I wanted to play the BOTW DLC on a second switch on airplanes; I ultimately had to create a second account to buy it a second time on that switch to prevent it from phoning home).

Digital copies also download the entire game into storage, while physical copies have the game in cartridge ROM and much less is stored locally. Getting a Digital copy of a large game might fill up most of your storage. This is why I still prefer cartridges, especially now that my kids are older and don’t lose them anymore.

How is it affordable? It’s not, we eat a lot of ramen.

Hope this helps!

MNByChoice,

Thank you!

I appreciate your sharing so much detail.

I don’t think my kids can handle memorized passwords and keeping accounts secure yet.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown, (edited )
@MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io avatar

Once an account is set up on a switch your kids will not need to remember password to access it. From what I recall the only time you might have to recall the password is to add funds to the account to buy games on the shop.

There is a companion parental control app that allows you limit screen time or access hours and filter games by age rating. You’ll still have full access to the console through a quick passcode.

dhork,

You only really need an account to get DLC, but I suppose it’s necessary these days. If you only have one switch for the family than you can make that account yourself. The kids would not have to have their own online accounts until they want to pay for their own content. (As I recall, Nintendo requires additional verification steps for accounts for under 13s, anyway. I think they require a $1 fee just to “prove” an adult approves the account.).

And one thing I forgot is that if there are DLC/digital copies active on a primary switch, all accounts can use it. So you can install those and anyone can play. Then, if they ever get their own devices and let you log in and download all that content, they will be able to use it, subject to phone-home provisions. Unless they buy their own copies on their own accounts – then they will be able to use the DLC without phoning home.

catloaf,

If they’re that young, they definitely don’t need their own Switch.

Dindonmasker, do games w Are there Cozy shooter games?
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is slime rancher technically a shooter game?

majestictechie,

It’s a farming sim. You’re just farming with a gun

MagnyusG, (edited )

but are you shooting the gun? if yes then it might fit the bill

majestictechie,

Well it’s not bullets but you do shoot objects/creatures out of it

fsxylo,

If you shoot tarr at the other slimes, it’s kinda like bullets.

USSEthernet,

Gun/vacuum *

Thatuserguy,

Is Portal technically a shooter game?

catloaf,

It has a gun that makes holes.

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

All guns make holes.

GreyCat,

Not energy guns.

catloaf,

A caulk gun fills holes.

Someplaceunknown, do gaming w The worst of both worlds
@Someplaceunknown@fedia.io avatar

This did not have to be live action

Apeman42,
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

This did not have to be live action

Paradachshund, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before

This one isn’t super new, but Druidstone. It’s a story based tactics game with some RPG elements and it’s just excellently done. I’ve never heard anyone else mention it and I think more people should know about it.

SandLight,

It was pretty good, but I got stuck on an annoying mission and dropped it. Really wish that dev had just made grimrock 3, but I respect not wanting to do the same thing over and over…

Reach,
Paradachshund,

Thanks for doing what I didn’t have time to!

Also available on GOG for those who prefer.

kyub, (edited ) do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?

Generally, any top rated game from that period which doesn’t rely on “realistic” graphics but instead offers very good gameplay and is kind of timeless and ages well. For example, you shouldn’t play the original System Shock 1 anymore, although it was top tier in 1994, because its graphics are very poor for today’s standards, it’s UI has always been poor, and it’s a game that fully relies on immersion, but you can’t immerse yourself anymore if both graphics and UI are really poor. Instead, play the System Shock remake from Nightdive Studios which came out recently. It’s not the same, but it’s very similar, and much better nowadays. Also why you shouldn’t play the old STALKERs anymore, although they were amazing and it kind of saddens me to write this, but they really don’t offer much immersion today, which is why they didn’t age well. I’m writing this because I didn’t finish part 3 back in the day and intended to finish it like 2 years ago, but I couldn’t stand the dated graphics anymore. For a game which relies fully on immersion, that ruins it.

Here’s my list (not in a particular order), I’m focusing on PC games because I never really play that much console or handheld stuff:

  • Command and Conquer up until Red Alert (remastered version available). These are classic RTS games in a sci-fi war setting. Some say Total Annihilation was the best RTS during the 90s but I never played it.

  • Starcraft 1 (remastered version available). This game is also still being played competitively in multiplayer, with an active tournament scene, especially in South Korea. Also great in single player. Famous for its balance, at least on modern tournament maps.

  • Age of Empires 2 (remastered version available). It’s like a mix between a classic RTS and Civilization. Great game, lots of content by itself already, also tons of added content.

  • Jagged Alliance 2 (great community mods available). You can skip part 1, part 2 was absolutely amazing. A great strategy and tactics based game. It’s quite difficult, but great.

  • Doom 1+2 (remastered version available, very recently updated again on Steam (this month!)). Plenty of 3rd party engines like gzdoom also available which make them look and feel much more modern. Tons of community-made content as well. Special mention: John Romero, one of the original level designers, also made more content over the years (e.g. “Sigil”), which is great as well.

  • Quake 1+2 (remastered version and 3rd party engines available). These were among the first games fully utilizing 3D-accelerated graphics back in the day, so they pushed boundaries and they brought the pseudo-3D games like Doom 1+2 into a full 3D environment.

  • Baldur’s Gate 1+2 + its expansions (remastered version available). Also highly recommend version 3 of course but that’s not an old game. Plenty of mods available for them as well. These are all exceptional RPG games with great story and depth that no RPG fan should skip. They also age well because it’s just good 2D art.

  • Planescape: Torment (only if you a) liked Baldur’s Gate and b) don’t mind reading (it’s a lot of text) and enjoying a complex story with complex character interactions. Remastered version available)

  • Half-Life 1+2 (instead of HL1, play “Black Mesa” which is a great modern remake (not the same, but very similar and much better nowadays). For HL2, there are also some remastered versions or mods available, and Valve updated the game engine from time to time so when you download it today, it’s not the dated version from 2004 anymore). HL1 (1998) was one of the first FPS with a really great story line, voice acting, and stuff like that, which is why it pushed boundaries back when it was released. HL2 was just excellent overall and one of the first or the first game which introduced physics-based object manipulations, so it again pushed boundaries further)

  • Sin Gold was a great FPS from 1998 that got brutally overshadowed by Half-Life 1, but it’s still a great story-based shooter, more action-focused. Based on an updated Quake 1 engine.

  • Portal 1+2. Best to play them after you’ve played the Half-Lifes. Portal 2 (2012) is THE highest rated game on Steam (steamdb.info/stats/gameratings/). Truly great puzzle FPS set in Half-Life’s setting, which is why it’s useful to know about HL before jumping in (but not a requirement). Portal 1 also isn’t far off in rating. Portal 1 was basically a “side game” for the Valve game compilation named The Orange Box, Portal 2 was then a true AAA quality followup because Portal 1 was a huge success.

  • Deus Ex 1 (maybe. Graphics are really poor (they were already dated when it launched). But it was one of the first RPG-FPS with stellar level design and the freedom to approach every situation in different ways, so VERY good on the gameplay side). Deus Ex 2 is supposedly bad, so skip that. The newer ones like Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are decent but they’re not classics anymore they’re still “”“fairly recent”“”, around 2010 or so.

  • System Shock 2. It also looks very dated by now but there are some HQ mods available (improving models and textures) which make it more bearable. I’m hesitant to mention it because it relies a lot on immersion and it looks very dated. So according to my own recommendations, I probably shouldn’t list it, but it’s also great in level design and gameplay, and its art style never was ultra-realistic to begin with, so I’ll list this one as an exception. It’s very much worth playing, truly a great sci-fi/horror RPG-FPS and a worthy successor to part 1. Nightdive Studios might be working on an SS2 Remake or Remaster, if so then I’d say wait for that!

  • Monkey Island 1 + 2. Remasters available. Classic point-and-click adventures, timeless.
  • There are even more great adventure games from LucasArts or Sierra back in the day, but you’ll have to figure them out for yourself. I will only recommend Monkey Island because they were probably the most successful and well-known ones. For some of them, remasters are available, or you can play them using ScummVM. There were also other great adventures not from LucasArts or Sierra, like Simon the Sorcerer. The 80s, 90s and early 2000s spawned a lot of great point+click adventure games.

  • Diablo 2 (remaster available). D1 started the whole “genre” of hack&slay action RPGs but it’s rather poor in comparison and aged terribly, D2 is much better in all areas, so skip D1 and instead try D2.

  • Z (very unique and fun RTS game from the 90s. If you haven’t played it, you should! It offers very good and unique gameplay that no one else really tried to copy as far as I know, which is a shame. It truly emphasizes unit production time, speed and good timing). It’s also entertaining. And difficult.

  • Thief Gold + Thief 2 (remasters available I think, but even if not, despite the graphics being very dated, a lot of it is in shadows anyway and IMHO the general art style kind of ages well, though that may be subjective, and it’s also immersion-based, so YMMV, but I think it’s fine still). Also “The Dark Mod” as a community “continuation” of the series). If you like stealth FPS, you must play them. Thief 3 is also decent. Any Thiefs after that are terrible. There are amazing community-made mods/missions as well.

  • Alien: Isolation. This one is from 2012 I believe, so not quite old, but an honorable mention because it’s also an amazing stealth-based game. Its art style (like the first movies) also makes it age better. In fact I’d say this is one of the best horror-based stealth games ever made.

  • Heroes of Might & Magic 3 (I think in this case, the remaster is bad. Stick to community mods/patches). This one is still the best of the series, so you don’t need to play any other part. Ages very well because it has very beautiful 2D-based graphics. Great art and design overall.

  • There was one old RPG which supposedly aged very well but I didn’t play it yet. Maybe Albion or Lands of Lore, not sure what it was.

  • Tomb Raider 1-3 (remaster)

  • WH40k Dawn of War 1 is great if you like the universe and RTS games in general. Also the best in the series.

  • XIII (Thirteen) - but not the new remake, play the original. It’s a rather unique stealth-based, comic-look based FPS. Ages quite well because of its unique look (utilizes the kind of shading like Borderlands)

  • Elder Scrolls 3-5 are very good as well but you need several mods or engine enhancements, otherwise graphics aren’t that good anymore, and these are games which rely on good graphics as well for atmosphere/immersion. So they don’t age well by default, but thankfully they have a VERY active modding community which keeps these games alive. You can even make them look very modern, but it takes time and effort to do so.

  • Nethack (somewhat of a nerd game, terrible graphics by design (text-based art style), but amazing and very deep/complex gameplay, very rewarding to get into, if you don’t mind its presentation. In terms of gameplay depth it brutally outclasses most games on the market). There are also some other clones like Slash’Em which I didn’t play. Dwarf Fortress is probably similar in depth and presentation (but very different in gameplay and general type of game) but I also didn’t play it yet. If you know enough about Nethack it’s also not that hard, but getting to that point is very difficult and if you don’t know anything then it’s very difficult. (I’ve done 8 ascensions, i.e. 8 finished playthroughs).

  • Honorable mention because it’s technically not old but looks old: Return of the Obra Dinn. Don’t skip this one, it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played, I’m not kidding. It’s truly amazing, and it’s made by 1 guy. It’s a perfect example of why graphics fidelity in games doesn’t matter that much and you can create excellent, modern-feeling, stylish games regardless.
OrgunDonor,
@OrgunDonor@lemmy.world avatar

This is a great list.

I agree with your points on System Shock 2, I would also highlight that you could wait for the enhanced edition that Nightdive are doing of System Shock 2, and you could play their remake of the original in the mean time.

kyub,

Added it, thanks.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

Return of the Obra Dinn. Don’t skip this one

just passing by to second that one. seriously, play this game.

OBK,

Check out the STALKER GAMMA mod, I’ve played it and it’s great! (from a long time STALKER fan)

Essence_of_Meh, do games w UK petition of "Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state" just got thrown back to the Government
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

That’s positively surprising, I expected them to leave it at that until petition reaches the second milestone (if that even happens). Let’s see if anything new comes out of this.

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