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TWeaK, do gaming w Rant: Valve's new Steam Deck screws speak volumes about their ethos.

While other companies around the world are constantly in search of new ways to screw their own consumers

You bastard, take that upvote.

ComradeKhoumrag,
@ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

I read the title with that connotation. Was actually looking forward to hearing a valid complaint of the steam deck but Surprise!

lukas,
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

I can already hear my business administration professor scream that everyone in the free market tries to screw each other from that statement lol. Why yes of course, money. Planned obsolescence is the only logical choice, people! I bet nobody will source old, but durable products and repair them instead, no no. That’ll never happen!

cecilkorik, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

This also has big implications for consumer rights and society as a whole in other areas of digital technology and right to repair, it is a foot in the door to start actually holding manufacturers responsible for the full lifecycle of their products (digital and real) that requires them to actually relinquish their control when their product reaches end-of-commercial-life, instead of turning everything into digital garbage out of what basically amounts to apathy and compulsive rights hoarding.

samus12345, do gaming w The steam deck is just great

Bonus “Fuck Nintendo” points: pirate their games and put them on the Steam Deck.

Lawnman23,

This is the way.

domi, do gaming w Funko Pop abuses domain name reporting system, takes down itch.io
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

I hope they will switch their registrar. That’s just unprofessional.

Coelacanth, do games w Valve lifts NDA on Deadlock, streaming and talking about the game is now allowed.
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Having the game streamed by all these huge channels before it’s even officially announced is kinda crazy. Everyone wants to play Valve’s “secret game” of course, so it’s free marketing. Pretty clever.

doodledup,

Valve doing their Valve thing.

intensely_human,

So Valve specializes in controlling the rate of release?

Robin, do games w The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures

Don’t stop yet! They might still remove incorrectly filed entries.

chrislowles, (edited )

Pedal to the metal on all fronts!

Madagaskar_sky,

Peddle to the metal

Lol, nice pun, good one.

chrislowles,

Honestly that was a typo on my part, I’m really tired rn lol

BurgerBaron,
@BurgerBaron@piefed.social avatar

130k now with time left. I think we good.

stoy, do games w What games have you sunk the most time into?

I got suckered into playing 800+ hours of GTA Online and paying thousands of SEK for shark cards over a year or two before I realized what a terrible game it is.

I was addicted to it, and paid money every month to buy shark cards.

When my work situation improved however, I took a few steps back and realized that I had wasted a lot of money on it and that I was only chasing the dragon that was just out of reach, kept away from me by carefully crafted mental mechanics of the game.

I was disgusted and refused to participate further.

I uninstalled it right away and have never looked back.

Shooie,

Super proud of you internet stranger. Addictions fucking suck and are hard to break. Congratulations!

stoy, (edited )

Yeah, I never let it spiral out of control, but I did let it take all of my lessiure money for a year or two, not fun.

But educational.

Caboose12000,

I never spent a dime on it, but I did play for over 3000 hours before rock star blocked linux. I enjoyed the grind rather than the reward, so it sort of became my little safe-space game when I was really stresses out. could always just go hang out with my buds for a few hours and grind out a million bucks. I’m still kinda torn up about the anticheat situation tbh, I would gladly play alone if there were any way to play the same game. but story mode just doesnt compare for me, completly different game :(

Draegur, do gaming w Gamer_IRL
@Draegur@lemm.ee avatar

i haven’t bought a single game from them in 20 years.

but i’ve played plenty enough.

Eat my ENTIRE ASS, Nintendo.

fartsparkles,

Yup. I’ve been boycotting Nintendo and EA for the past twenty years. EA due to the destruction of countless talented studios (Origin, Bullfrog, Westwood, Pandemic) and Nintendo when they were caught by the EU doing anti-competitive price fixing (which they still seem to be doing today).

I have missed out on nothing. A game is just a game; a piece of multimedia content to entertain. There are countless astonishing games out there; missing out on a few doesn’t harm you.

People really need to learn to vote with their wallets. And no, I don’t think sailing the high seas and yarharhar legal questionability is acceptable. You don’t need to play the game. There is nothing that important you’re missing out on for the “cultural zeitgeist”.

Piracy still increases the fandom and increases sales (contrary to what IP owners will tell you). So piracy is still supporting these organisations and feeding into their success.

Vote with your wallets. Don’t support business practices and businesses you don’t believe in. Give your time and money to those that deserve it.

SARGE,
@SARGE@startrek.website avatar

Bullfrog, Westwood, Pandemic

Right in the childhood/teenage years…

pennomi, do astronomy w Elon Musk destroys astronomy

Obviously this is a problem for radio astronomers. I keep hoping we’ll build the proposed Lunar Crater Telescope so we can have a truly silent view of the universe.

anarchrist,

I would also consider a proposal to install elon musk at that location.

DScratch,

And then let people move there to get away from Elon.

baduhai,

And consequently create radio chatter and disturb the Lunar Crater Telescope :(

DScratch,

I’ll be very quiet. Promise.

BaroqueInMind,

How are you going to shit post on the internet with no wifi, then?

sneezycat,
@sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ethernet cable.

BaroqueInMind,

Where is that ethernet cable getting internet from on the moon without there being a loud as fuck antenna?

lath,

The ether.

BaroqueInMind,

So then you won’t be able to be quiet due to the screaming and moans coming from the cacaphony of lost souls within the Warp

lath,

Eh, just treat it as ASMR.

gravitas_deficiency,

802.3

BaroqueInMind, (edited )

Ethernet protocol can’t reach the earth from the moon without there being a loud af antenna

gravitas_deficiency,

Fiber line to the bright side of the moon; transceiver there.

BaroqueInMind,

For multi-mode (full duplex) you would still need a power amp repeater every 500 meters, which requires a lot of power and create noise. You can’t be quiet with noise.

gravitas_deficiency,

Even if you make them sub-surface, or otherwise shield them from the FOV of the antenna?

BaroqueInMind,

Yes, because there’s no way to transmit power or data anywhere without being loud af in any signal spectrum. It’s physically impossible.

Even with fiber, you need a laser to beam the signal, and a powerful amp on the moon to recieve the signal and boost it with fuck ton of high power repeaters to the other side of the moon which is also loud af

gravitas_deficiency,

Be that as it may, it’d be minimal compared to the interference that terrestrial radio observatories have to deal with.

I guess I’m just saying that I don’t understand why you’re being so negative about the concept when it’s clearly going to be orders of magnitude better than existing antennae.

BaroqueInMind,

True. When can we visit said hypothetical moon base?

gravitas_deficiency,

Wanna go next Tuesday? I’m pretty sure I’m free then.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I WONT

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nah. Move him there, alone, forever.

Steve,

And how would they get there?

lath,

Lunar space elevator obviously.

dual_sport_dork, do games w Can anyone suggest some good co-op games for two people?
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Portal 2?

It’s not very long, but it has an entire co-op campaign that’s completely inaccessible without a 2nd player.

Jaysyn, do games w Fuck Ubisoft.
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

I've been boycotting Ubisoft for years, haven't missed a damn thing.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been boycotting Ubisoft for years, haven’t missed a damn thing.

Yeah, there are so many great games by non-shitty developers. Skipping Ubisoft, EA, and Activision entirely is not only possible but there are more great games left than one can play anyway.

technomad,

Yeah, that’s pretty much where I’m at with gaming now. Why settle for a subpar experience? I don’t have the time or finances for that.

cottonmon,
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, they’re a pretty shitty company. Weren’t they one of the first companies to implement always-on DRM?

pastel_de_airfryer,

Yeah, I think it was in Assassin’s Creed 2. At the time, people were unable to play the single player game they bought at launch because Ubisoft shitty authentication service couldn’t handle the load.

Guess who didn’t have that problem…

etchinghillside, do games w Pop it in your calendars

Im gonna need a fact check on that bonus number.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Yes you are going to need to, but as you asked so presumptively I have a couple of links from pretty good journalistic sources.

rockpapershotgun.com/krafton-plan-to-delay-subnau…

theverge.com/…/krafton-delay-subnautica-2-250-mil…

The Bloomberg article they reference it’s paywalled to hell :D bloomberg.com/…/krafton-delays-subnautica-2-game-…

wioum,
@wioum@lemmy.world avatar

Bloomberg article: archive.is/njpO8

BakedCatboy,

Archive link for the Bloomberg article in case the gift link stops working archive.is/2mltm

ipitco,

You said it was a fact when it’s just a suspicion

FanBlade,

I mean, you made the claim presumptively, seems reasonable to think it would be on you to provide a source.

Resonosity,

Proving a negative vs a positive, exactly

paultimate14,

The $250 million bonus was due to kick in if Unknown Worlds hit certain revenue targets by the end of 2025

The whole key to this is how the bonus is structured, and that is unknown still. They very well may have just been something like “10% of net profit, capped at $250 million”.

If the whole cost of the game was JUST $250 million, that would put it in the [top-15](The $250 million bonus was due to kick in if Unknown Worlds hit certain revenue targets by the end of 2025) most expensive games we have official numbers for. This doesn’t pass the smell test.

Seleni,

Does it make sense to nitpick how much they’re getting though? The fact that they’re being denied any bonus is shady as fuck.

paultimate14,

That’s how bonuses work. If it was guaranteed regardless of how the company perfroms, it wouldn’t be a bonus.

It is entirely possible that, even if they had released Subnautica 2 in its current state right now, it may not meet sales expectations and no one would get a bonus anyways. They could make a great game and the marketing team drops the ball- no bonus. They could market like crazy but the game sucks- no bonus. Data breaches or corporate embezzlement or world war- there are tons of factors that could prevent them from meeting those goals.

The amount is also important because it is being used by the position to try to support an argument that Krafton made this move in order to avoid paying the bonus. When in reality the cost of that bonus payment is probably a tiny fraction of what they are losing by delaying the game.

Personally I hate bonuses, and I have always advocated at my company for more of the payroll to be structured as salary. But other colleagues of mine really like bonuses. They like the increased reward and risk involved. It comes down to risk aversion, so I’m not going to call those people or employers evil or anything just because it’s not my preference.

I’m also not defending Krafton’s decision to replace the leadership and delay the game. Personally I suspect that they did so in order to add more monetization to the game, but that’s impossible to know until reviews start to get published. I will say that no one should pre-order the game, but I would also say no one should pre-order any game. Why are people pre-ordering games at all?

And what if Krafton is right? What if the game is actually in a state right now that would disappoint customers? Seems like for the last decade every videogame community has been complaining about games being released as unfinished and buggy meses. No Man’s Sky and Cyberpunk for example. Any time Nintendo delays a game, all their fans applaud and share the Miyamoto meme (“a delaged game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”). So I’m really surprised to see that a publisher has come out and admitted that they think the game needs more time to meet customer expectations and instead of applauding them for taking the loss the Internet is instead promoting these weird conspiracy theories that don’t add up to explain how it’s actually bad.

kbobabob,

It is entirely possible that

Being possible doesn’t equal being likely.

paultimate14,

The public does not have enough information to judge the relative probabilities. Krafton has that information and has every incentive to release the game as soon as possible, and they still chose to delay.

ChairmanMeow,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

According to Krafton’s statement the remaining employees are getting their bonus though.

etchinghillside,

Apologies - that was not a dig at the validity of the information provided.

That’s a very high number - so I had to either be misunderstanding the number or underestimating the number of employees the bonus was going to.

sorter_plainview,

I wonder how much of this is true. Statement from the publisher

On Thursday, Krafton issued another statement addressed to “our 12 million fellow Subnauts.” The company said 90% of the $250 million payout was allocated to Unknown Worlds’ three senior leaders. Krafton accused the executives of abandoning their responsibilities in order to work on other projects, including a film, leading to delays for the game.

atticus88th,

This fact check provided by EA Games.

simple, do games w What are some good examples of "Where the fuck do you go" kind of games?

That’s my experience with 99% of old school point and click games. At some point in every one it devolved into me running in circles and trying every item on every object.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

When I played Day of the Tentacle I got stuck. Eventually I caved in and ordered the official hint book. Mind you, back then this entailed mailing a physical letter and the money somewhere. I guess my parents helped with that. And then you had to wait for your order to arrive. And the post was a lot slower than today.

I waited weeks for the book to arrive. And then, the day before it came, I finished the game. Use physics book with horse was the last puzzle I needed.

But the money wasn’t wasted entirely. The game’s story was written down from the pov of one of the characters. Pretty funny.

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

What a solid game and experience. I’ve played through it so many times, and I can’t ever get over Bernard’s voice actor being Les Nessman from

ragebutt,

Hint books were an experience back then. I remember the hint book for myst had this whole narrative about some other person who got trapped in the book, which was supposed to be like the player. It was this whole story of how they solved all the various puzzles. I remember it being quite long but I was also like 9 so maybe it was just like 10 pages

ragebutt,

Yeah, basically every game that runs on scummvm is a good candidate here: leisure suit Larry, kings quest, police quest, the dig, sam and max, Indiana jones and the fate of Atlantis, all the sierra and lucasarts ones

Myst series is another good one. Journeyman project trilogy. These all ruled when I was like 12 years old

I miss when games were confusing and aimless by default. I know there are still games like this but I feel like the default now is a game that’s like “oh hey, go down this hallway full of locked doors! Except one door is unlocked, that’s a secret area, good for you! But otherwise go down the hallway to the next hallway!”

zerofk,

Also the end of the hallway is glowing, and there’s a pulsating dot on your minimap. And if you take 5 seconds longer than needed, your character says to himself: “maybe I should go to the end of this hallway”.

simple,

Oh man, king’s quest. Those games were literally impossible without a guide and you needed to go to areas in very specific steps to not softlock the game.

ragebutt,

All those old games were so punishingly hard

You’d play leisure suit Larry or whatever and get 3/4 of the way through and get stuck. Then you’d check a walkthrough and realize you didn’t check the trash can on the first screen of the game for a key item and now you’re fucked and literally have to start over from the beginning

Or you’d get to a death condition and get a screen that just mocks you: remember to save early and save often!

moakley,

Disco Elysium gave me this experience in a new context. But better, because it blurs the line between success and failure.

impudentmortal,

The worse is when a solution seems obvious but doesn’t work. Then you lose your mind clicking everything until you get the actual solution.

Landless2029,

Never had this issue with monkey island games…

DoucheBagMcSwag,

I gave up on point and click games when the solution to a problem in Monkey Island 2 was to put a fucking dog in your pocket. Even the look Guybrush gives when he stuffs the dog in is like "bet you didn’t think to do that initially huh…?’

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

The funny thing is that LucasArts games were done as the “antithesis” to Sierra games, as the latter were chock full of cheap deaths and “Did you remember to do some little side thing 2 hours ago? No? Progress locked, fuck you” situations

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Oh right … Yeah at least with all the Lucas arts games you would just be stuck and not perma fucked.

Like letting a rat live when you only have literal seconds

rayquetzalcoatl, do gaming w Oblivion "remastered"
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

The piss filter is back baby!

catloaf,

What is old is new again

vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=222

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That comic is still alive!?

SkyezOpen,

Not really. It’s porn now.

Odo,

Kinda. The website was inactive for a few years there, and only recently started updating again. The author was focusing on Patreon, which was reportedly porn of the VGCats characters.

StarvingMartist, (edited )

Freakin’ VGCATS, my man! What a blast from the past

disposabletentacle, do games w One-handed games?

I don’t understand. You have two friends, each with a good arm, that’s two good arms. Tape your friends together and have them coordinate and BAM: two-handed gaming.

Socket462,

That sounds like a good plot for an episode in a tv show. I sense potential here. Haha

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

Tape will come off when they sweat, better sew them together. And trim off those unnecessary arms, it’s just efficiency.

frigidaphelion,

🚨👮‍♂️🚨yes officer it’s this person right here

atomicorange,

Thank you citizen, you’re right! He’s got management written all over him!

nogooduser,

And they can play Brothers A Tale Of Two Sons.

helix,

sadly they live 80km apart from each other, and both are right handed, so they couldn’t face each other while playing. We’d need a pretty weird dual-monitor setup if we’d tape them together.

ddash,

All I’m hearing is excuses over excuses!

glitches_brew,

They could easily solve the double right handed problem by sewing one to the other upside down.

oxideseven,

My SO and I died this during a stream once. I don’t know why lol.

We played Hades. I was right, she was left. It started as a joke but we actually made it decently far lol.

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