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Butterbee, do gaming w Bethesda is once again adding support for paid mods to Skyrim
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There’s a lot of negativity here, and a lot of it is pretty justified. But I don’t hate the idea of paid mods. Like if there’s a way for authors like the ones the made Enderal or other really big mods to make some money off of it that’s really great. Is Bethesda going to be fair about them? Probably not. Is Bethesda going to be competent with the system? Probably as competent as they are at anything else (derogatory).

But at least it’s a way that you can make some money back for your work where you don’t have to worry about chargebacks from trolls costing you more than the donations they were originally giving you. And this can be a pretty big problem for donation driven works. Someone donates $1, 200 times. Then charges them all back. Paypal charges you $15 processing fee for each chargeback. And you can contest it but who needs that? If Bethesda can be the entity brokering all of it, then they are the ones that take the chargeback risk.

So in theory, I don’t hate it. But it will all depend on the implementation and competency of Bethesda (not looking good here).

ampersandrew,
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My problem with it last time around, which was not the problem most people took with it, was how much of a cut Valve and Bethesda took before the mod maker saw any of that money. It's Valve's store and Bethesda's IP, sure, but if Bethesda was going to take that much of a cut, they should at least be spending some of that money on policing the bad actors in the paid mod scene to make sure it's all legit so that they earn their cut.

Butterbee,
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Yep! Like I said, a lot of the negativity is pretty justified. I just wanted to provide one positive for people to see.

50gp,

and they still dont seem to be interested in offering the full toolchain for the engine, including official mesh and anim import/export plus documentation for the formats

MagicShel,

Also if I pay for a mod and they release a patch that breaks it (seems unlikely but we’ve already gotten about two or three more patches than I expected), I would expect them to fix the mod or pay the creator to do so.

Oh and I would expect them to magically resolve conflicts between paid mods.

If a free mod breaks and never gets fixed, or a free mod breaks another mod, fair I have no expectations there. But once I fork out money that’s not a mod, that’s a product now. And if Bethesda is taking my money, they are responsible for the product.

ampersandrew,
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As long as you can easily turn individual mods on and off, I personally wouldn't have the expectation that one mod must not break another mod. I also don't mod much, but that's why I see potential in paid mods. What's out there the way things are now usually doesn't float my boat, and I'd like to see what we get when people can support themselves in producing mods.

PlatinumSf,

If you’re looking for monitary returns, make a game not a mod. Otherwise you’re building your foundation on sand and owe the lack of monitary return on nothing but your own choices. Having Bethesda broker this is just a horrible idea and will lead to a cesspool of fraud, exploit, and death to genuine creative love works and passion projects. Not everything need be made for profit, and often it’s better for it.

50gp, (edited )

mods made by more than a few people are impossible to monetise with this scheme, way too many creators to pay so you would make next to nothing over just making it free and putting it in your resume

and then we have bethesdas aversion to new dialog (and localising it) in these official mods, which really kills the vibe in many of them

Kaldo,
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Don't give them even an inch. They are not doing this in good faith for the sake of the modders.

Don_alForno,

That is exactly the point. “Hmmm, maybe it’s fine if some high quality mods can make some money” no! This is “it’s just cosmetics” all over again. Give them a finger, they’ll be taking the arm and suing you for the other one soon. Don’t! Just don’t! If you want creators to make money, donate.

lustyargonian,

I think Flight Simulator has paid mods and I’ve seen ambivalent or slightly positive opinions of it. It is definitely doable and is actually a good idea, but something about Bethesda and their way of doing it always seems shady.

Don_alForno,

Someone donates $1, 200 times. Then charges them all back. Paypal charges you $15 processing fee for each chargeback

Don’t use PayPal. That’s a good policy in general.

Vlyn, do games w Grim Dawn Version v1.2.0.0 coming November 16th!

Holy shit that’s a beefy update. It also modernizes the gameplay with active dodges and cooldown potions.

I really need to get back to it after D4 :)

qooqie,

I’ve played this game a shit ton and love it to death, but I suggest waiting for the expansion to release so you don’t burn out

Jaysyn, (edited ) do gaming w Unity doesn't consider Planned Parenthood a charity (but a political groups), won't exempt them from install fees
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When you look at who the Unity board of Directors is friends with (Musk), this makes a lot more sense.

The EU is about to take their pound of flesh for this.

lemmydripzdotz456, do games w Steam :: Introducing Steam Families

This is good

and

I wish it was easier to manage multiple steam account on a single computer because some of us have more family than devices

SidewaysHighways,

It seems easier these days than it was back in the old times. Four of us in the family hopping around on 2 desktops and 2 old laptops. Pretty fluid! Not sure if you’re experiencing something specific?

I was also using the heck out of the ‘local fire share’ feature in steam, i only had to download Ark survival evolved (128gb!)1 time!

lemmydripzdotz456,

What I would really like is to be able sign on to my windows account and then log into steam as me without typing in another password BUT the kids can’t log into steam and then switch to my account because they don’t have my password and they’re not signed in to Windows as me.

lud,

There is actually a way to quickly switch accounts now.

pycorax,

These changes are great although on a slightly unrelated note. I can sort of understand why they don’t allow you to do it but it’d be nice if I could play something on my Deck while playing something on my PC too. Sometimes I’m just idling waiting for friends in a game and want to pass the time. I know you can just switch off Wi-Fi in the Deck to do that but it is still mildly annoying.

echo64, do games w Steamworks Development - AI Content on Steam

Valve seems to see the amount of shovelware games released on steam last year as rookie numbers

steeznson, do games w Steam Winter Sale is coming(Today), along with voting in the Steam Awards

Anyone got recommendations for cheap or interesting indie games this sale?

I bought Touhou Artificial Dreams In Arcadia during the October sale and it is a bit of a hidden gem for fans of the old SMT JRPG games on SNES. I also picked up Lunacid but have not got that far in it, but it seems like a strong revival of the classic Kings Field games.

Pinecone,

Boneraiser minions. One of my favorite games this year. It’s vampire survivors but you raise minions to attack for you.

Radicaldog,

Copying a comment I made on the other site;

Recursed, just £1.67. It is a brilliant puzzle game, completely mind bending stuff about recursion and jumping into chests inside of chests while taking another chest with you so you can jump inside it…

Wonderputt Forever - £2.20. Prettiest minigolf game, animated to excess. Less than an hour to beat unless you go for optional challenges. You may have played the original flash game a decade ago.

MDKAOD,

Wonderputt looks like a mobile game.

Radicaldog, (edited )

The original predates mobile. Looks like Netflix have put this one on mobile. Still very good so don’t let that put you off.

Sweetpeaches69,

I’m enjoying the hell out of Cult of the Lamb

Jaysyn, do gaming w Bethesda is once again adding support for paid mods to Skyrim
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I hate this.

TheQuietCroc, do games w The Coffin of Andy and Leyley Developer Sells Title And Leaves The Internet Entirely After Harassment Campaign

Oh so this is where that sibling breeding meme came from.

stillwater, do games w Looks like someone figured out a workaround for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2 offline mode on Windows

It’s just an environment variable?? If that’s all it takes, there’s no reason this can’t have been implemented across the board.

rikudou,
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Well, there’s a huge reason! Those who decide such things should be in the game judge others by what they would do and because they’re bunch of thieves, they think everyone is. They’re also tech illiterate enough to think this will actually stop someone from pirating the game.

dumdum666, do games w Grim Dawn Version v1.2.0.0 coming November 16th!

They have an Expansion planned so it is nice that they provide a free update in Advance to this

This game is one of the few existing dungeon crawlers that had me playing several hundred hours.

mercano, do games w 7 Days to Die is leaving Early Access
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This game has been in Early Access so long it’s lost all meaning. Good for the devs, I guess, to continue to put time and energy into the game for so long.

Rentlar, do games w Steam Workshop :: New Quality of Life Workshop Features

Huzzah! Having to unsubscribe from mods when you don’t need it, and then try to find them again when you do was a real pain for a long time.

Blamemeta, do games w Bethesda is once again adding support for paid mods to Skyrim

Well fuck this, broke my modlist again. I give up. I’m not buying Tes6, theyve burnt the goodwill with me.

BigBananaDealer,
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if you want i can tell you if youve missed anything in the 10 years itll take to release

BaldProphet,
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Will humanity even exist then?

kadu, do games w Grim Dawn Version v1.2.0.0 coming November 16th!
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

What the hell, I bought it recently but thought it was pretty much done and abandoned, that’s super cool

Drusas,

Oh no, the game's been having regular updates for years. Fantastic dev team.

zer0squar3d, do games w 7 Days to Die is leaving Early Access

Alpha to Bet…Full release! Yeah that’s exactly how development goes! I played it 8 ish years ago and have like 600 hours in it. I still follow the release changelogs it and played it here and there but it’s still 100% in Alpha. I feel they ran or are running out of money and by releasing it and increasing price will let them get free advertisement and therefore sales. Is it a bad game? No, just needs tons more work.

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