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aluminium, do games w Phil Spencer wants Epic Games Store and others on Xbox consoles

Might as well allow me to install a other OS at this point

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Playstation let you do that for a while.

nasi_goreng,
@nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

I remember Linux for PlayStation 2 back in the days.

dandroid, do games w Phil Spencer wants Epic Games Store and others on Xbox consoles

Yeah, well I want game pass on Steam and Linux, but we can’t get everything we want, Phil.

narrowscoped,

I think it’s gonna get there very soon. Steam on Xbox, and also Xbox on steam deck.

The only issue with the latter is Valve is using proton translation to bypass windows and make their own thing, it’s a tremendously grey area that Microsoft has said NOTHING about, only because Steam is legit and game sale money go to publishers.

Imagine if Yuzu was legit and game sales still went to nintendo or 3rd parties, the tech behind proton and yuzu nce aren’t dissimilar!

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

How is Valve using Proton a grey area?

Mini_Moonpie,

I’m guessing that they don’t mean a legally grey area. I think they probably mean it’s a grey area for Microsoft because Proton helps people get around needing Windows to play games made for Windows and Microsoft has an interest in keeping people on their OS.

xavier666,

Proton should be called PINE instead because PINE Is Not an Emulator.

istanbullu, do gaming w A handheld Xbox? Microsoft’s gaming chief can’t stop thinking about it

The success of Steam Deck is the reason.

lorty, do games w Phil Spencer wants Epic Games Store and others on Xbox consoles
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

And how much of a cut would you be taking Phil?

Dagwood222, do scifi w The dirty secret to making sci-fi believable

I remember an old Superman comic. Trapped under a red sun, Supes is powerless, but his Kryptonian supersuit is still indestructible. Supes is bruised and battered but his clothes stay immaculate.

[iirc, the supersuit is made of Kryptonian tech and was originally blankets used to swaddle in infant Kal-El]

wolfshadowheart, do scifi w The dirty secret to making sci-fi believable
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

My friend pointed this out for the recent live action Avatar show. Their clothes were pretty much immaculate the entire time

Cwilliams,

They also had on way too much makeup. Like, how am I suppose to believe that they were flying on Appa that whole time?

Itsamelemmy, do scifi w The dirty secret to making sci-fi believable

I wonder if this was the reason for my dislike of the costumes in one of the marvel Thor movies. Just remember them looking like a cheap cos player outfit made from plastic.

khab, do scifi w The dirty secret to making sci-fi believable
@khab@kbin.social avatar

This was the whole ethos of the first Star Wars films - Lucas made a point of getting everything look worn, to the point of having a term for it: the "used universe". Exemplified by C-3PO's whole look, Luke's clothes or even Han Solos's sweaty shirt.

It's a shame he seems to have completely forgotten this when it was time to make the prequels...

Friendship,
@Friendship@kbin.social avatar

I'd argue it wasn't forgotten in the prequels. Most of the characters and plot revolves around and is supported by very large well funded organizations (Republic, Trade Federation, ect) which means the clothing and equipment they have is less likely to be worn down. The same can be seen in the original trilogy with the Empire, storm troopers and imperial ships are well polished and not "used".

perishthethought, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

They had me at tower defense mechanics.

lemmyvore,

They’re surprisingly fun and I wonder why more team deathmatch games don’t include them.

I used to play Tremulous and it was super addictive to live and die by your base elements. Gives the game a whole new dimension about strategy and teamwork.

apotheotic,

Oh my god thank you for reminding me that tremulous existed. I spent so many hours playing that

Midnitte,

I’ve never heard of it, did it serve as inspiration for Natural Selection?

lemmyvore, (edited )

Here is some gameplay (from the alien camp point of view). This is another good example of gameplay.

Apparently both Natural Selection and Tremulous were inspired by the Gloom mod for Quake 2, according to the Tremulous FAQ:

Development on Tremulous began long before NS was in the public domain. If Tremulous is inspired by anything, it is inspired by Gloom for Quake 2. NS has a similar ancestry (please see Game Developer Magazine February 2001 issue); this is probably where the confusion arises.

BmeBenji, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

Sounds like the Team Fortress 2 team has been busy, but didn’t want to count to 3

Caligvla, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Valve’s

Oh?

hero shooter

Oh…

SoupBrick,
Mint,

I’m assuming you didn’t enjoy Team Fortress 2 then?

Kissaki,

TF2 was great before they increased the player limit (I think that was before it became free to play?). It was a hero shooter with strategy and synergy. It became a spammy farm fest with too many items and too many players for what the maps were designed for.

Mint,

You’re not op?

Kissaki,

Is that a rhetorical question?

Mint,

That wasn’t a question, but statement. I was asking op whether they played tf2

HawlSera,

Eh Marvel’s Hero Shooter looks pretty good…

Though why people are making Hero Shooters NOW when Overwatch 2 has outright murdered public interest in the genre, I have no idea.

teawrecks, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

The only part of this that interests me is how they decide to handle anti-cheat on linux.

LennethAegis,
@LennethAegis@kbin.social avatar

Don't they already have VAC?

ianhclark510,
@ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

VAC is far from flawless

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

All anticheat is far from flawless lol

erwan,

It’s from Valve, they’ll make sure it works on the Steam Deck.

ryannathans, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

I’ll wait for the final release, Deadlock 2 /s

TheOakTree, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

1000008037

I’m not really understanding why this portrait looks this way… Is the black blob on the bottom left his bent leg? If it is his bent leg, what’s the tan colored bit at the bottom? Or is the black blob some random giant pouch on his hip, alongside the other more pouch-like object on his hip? Is the bow being held close to his body (arm bent?) or does he have a short left arm?

So many questions…

Khrux,

Oh noooo, I hate this art and design style:(

Lojcs,

I think he’s wearing a skirt

rwhitisissle, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

Deadlock sounds like the name of a no-budget indie horror game that would release on Steam for a dollar. Not a big budget Apexwatch or Overlegends or…whatever you call this style of game.

lemmyvore,

They’re actually two different genres, team deathmatch and battle royale. This Deadlock would be the former.

rwhitisissle,

Wikipedia says that Overwatch and Apex Legends are each part of the “Hero Shooter” genre (boy does that sound like an uninteresting genre). I’m guessing there are greater subdivisions of play structure that matches what you’re describing, but it all sounds like an uninteresting blend of character based FPS, like multiplayer Borderlands. I guess that’s where modern gaming is, though, since these really took off after 2016, which is solidly after my “hardcore gaming” days were mostly over.

lemmyvore,

character based FPS, like multiplayer Borderlands

That applies too, but it’s orthogonal to game structure. MOBAs also tend to be character based and you can add it to basically any game (eg. card based rogues like Slay the Spire).

But there are also lots of battle royales without characters (like PUBG or Fortnite) and team deathmatch without characters like CS.

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