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DarkThoughts, do gaming w New Steam RTS is basically a surprise Command and Conquer sequel

I'm not super interested in classic RTS anymore, thanks to 4X, but I'll keep an eye out for it and try the playtest. I still have my doubts that it will capture the same charm as the original C&C though. Especially someone like Kane will be hard to replace, and I feel he was such a big face for NOD that drove the whole story & mysteries forward.

gerryflap, do gaming w New Steam RTS is basically a surprise Command and Conquer sequel
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Looks interesting. It basically looks like a new C&C, which is a good thing. Apparently they have opened up playtesting according to my Steam, so let’s see how things are going

Venicon, do gaming w New Steam RTS is basically a surprise Command and Conquer sequel
@Venicon@sopuli.xyz avatar

Nice one, I miss playing those games. Any idea of format?

ampersandrew,
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What do you mean by format? I played it at PAX.

smort,
@smort@lemmy.world avatar

How’d you like it?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

It's modern enough but old school. I had barely sampled C&C back in the day (this game, I'm told, is a lot like C&C3), but I played a ton of StarCraft, and the mission they gave on the show floor was definitely great for showing off the unit escalation and rock paper scissors of it all. If you're looking for another one of those, there's a good chance they nailed it. For me, however, I think I'd like to see a different take on the genre, at least for multiplayer. The fog of war would instill a sense of dread in me that no amount of scouting could ever alleviate, and while winning a game of an RTS is super empowering, losing felt so awful that I'm not sure I want to do it again. They're seemingly not changing anything drastic and just making another one of those, which is fine, because there aren't a lot of those. I'm much less interested in playing games with a mouse these days, but somehow this game has full controller support listed on the store page. I know AOE2 got updated with clever controller options, but like I said; they're not rocking the boat with this game, so it's surprising that they somehow have controller inputs working. When I played the demo, it was on a mouse and keyboard.

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  • ampersandrew,
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    I'm also not familiar enough with C&C to know what this game is doing different from C&C. But a lot of old designs aren't broken and could just use modernization. Look at the last few games Mimimi has made, modernizing Commandos and Desperados. At this point, I'm desperate for "boomer shooters" to catch up to the 00s in design, because no one really makes FPS games like that anymore. A friend of mine was playing some TimeSplitters: Future Perfect on Discord, and I never played those games in their heyday, but I would absolutely be into them. There just aren't games made like that anymore, and I miss them. This game could be that for RTS or C&C fans.

    Side note. There are allegedly TimeSplitters and Perfect Dark games on the way. I fully expect Perfect Dark's campaign to not resemble that first game at all and for its multiplayer to be a live service extraction shooter, because that's what these big companies think people want. To be clear, this is based on nothing but feelings, conjecture, and cynicism, and I'm usually not very cynical. And if TimeSplitters ever does come back like they say it is, I expect it to be exactly what I want because they can't afford to build the thing that's going to ruin Perfect Dark.

    As for BG3, the way Larian makes those games systems driven, such that you can say, "I wonder if this works" and it usually does, is doing more than just playing on nostalgia, and it is doing things that video games excel at, even if it's still doing things outlined in the tabletop game.

    Redshlrt, do gaming w New Steam RTS is basically a surprise Command and Conquer sequel

    Game: Tempest Rising

    Niggling__Niggard,

    Thanks, it’s incomprehensible how OP didn’t even manage to mention it in either the title or the blurb up above. Is he a bot or something?

    Broken_Monitor,

    Its not a surprise either, these guys have put out a couple preview trailers and have been promoting the game for like a year now. Looks cool, been on my wish list for awhile

    Blizzard,

    And why does he keep calling it “Steam RTS”? Kind of suggests it was developed by Valve.

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  • Blizzard,

    Yeah, I get what you mean.

    commandar,

    It's SEO-optimization nonsense.

    DrQuint,

    Specially weird given that there was a whole thing with Neon Prime MAYBE having RTS elements. Someone might confuse themselves crossing those wires. This title just sucks.

    sep, do games w Half-Life is not dead, as new Steam record shows Valve we all still care

    ;( Compleatly missed this. Would have joined for sure.

    ArchmageAzor, do games w Half-Life is not dead, as new Steam record shows Valve we all still care
    @ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, the numbers also show that TF2 has always been alive and popular. Valve don’t care about anything.

    Jackcooper, do games w Half-Life is not dead, as new Steam record shows Valve we all still care

    I call my daughter half-life 3

    I don’t have a daughter

    ivanafterall, do games w Half-Life is not dead, as new Steam record shows Valve we all still care

    Seems like kind of a weird gesture given that Alyx was released only three years ago. By Valve standards, that's still considered hot off the presses.

    rich,

    And Alyx is incredible

    I’ve only had a select few genuine “holy fuck” moments during gaming where I have genuinely been stunned. One being Mario 64 in 1996, the other being Half Life Alyx.

    It’s a shame it’s in a medium that restricts how many people can actually play the thing. The VR-less mod does the game a huge disservice.

    nanoUFO,
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m going to guess most people into half life aren’t going to sink $1000 into computer upgrades and a VR headset.

    ElectroLisa,
    @ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Half-Life: Alyx doesn’t require a NASA PC, and you can play it on cheaper headsets like Quest 2, or even older used ones like Rift S or HTC Vive

    julianh,

    Yeah I used my $600 PC and a ~$300 Windows mixed reality headset. Far from ideal tbf but still a mind-blowing experience.

    sanpedropeddler,

    It requires a fairly good PC. I played it on my budget rig with a used rift s. I was very glad I don’t get motion sick easily because it was very often well below 60fps.

    ElectroLisa,
    @ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    My PC has an RX 580 and it works fine for me, I’d say that’s a budget GPU

    Thepolack,

    Are you telling me a new Half Life game came out three years ago and I missed it?

    AdmiralShat,

    VR only

    Master,
    @Master@sh.itjust.works avatar

    There is a non-vr mod for it.

    gk99,

    It’s not worth playing non-VR. To be blunt, all of the game elements other than graphics really kinda suck from a traditional gameplay perspective and are forgiven or ignored because of what VR adds. The levels are claustrophobic, the weapon and enemy variety is horrid, the AI was handicapped to make it easier to shoot in VR, there isn’t even a jump button or melee attack in a franchise known as a boomer shooter with a crowbar-wielding protagonist. It’s not a traditional Half-Life game and trying to play it as one will likely lead to disappointment.

    The reverse isn’t true, playing the VR mods for the rest of the franchise is a blast and there are plenty of amazing VR conversions for other games, so I find it saddening this is the direction Valve took for Alyx.

    sanpedropeddler,

    Its definitely not what you usually get in a half life game but I wouldn’t say its not worth playing without vr. If you’re willing to live with the differences then you can still enjoy it.

    julianh,

    My impression from participating was that it was more for fun rather than trying to make a statement. It was cool to see multiple full servers.

    joelfromaus, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
    @joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

    We need to find out which system has the most bugs and then play solely on that system for the true Bethesda experience.

    SenorBolsa, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
    @SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

    pcgamesn is scraping the bottom of the barrel, they literally just find ways to say something with starfield in the title. This has been a thing since at least 2016 when FH3 came out.

    It’s a cool feature, always worth some mention, but baffling that they feel the need to generate a whole article out of this.

    boonhet,

    Yup. It’s also worth noting that it’ll prevent you from playing it on Linux because you can’t run most Microsoft Store apps via wine or proton. Have to buy on Steam for that, but then you lose xbox.

    Kinda sucks if you’re a Linux user AND have an Xbox lying around.

    Helvedeshunden,

    You can still play cheaply on Xbox with Game Pass, though, if you want to dual wield Starfield.

    boonhet,

    I did use it for a while and discovered some games I loved, but I have periods where I don’t do as much gaming and at that point it’ll take more months to finish a game than ((cost of game) / (cost of game pass)) so lately I prefer buying again.

    Now it’s been long enough since I last used game pass, I should be able to do the xbl gold to gamepass upgrade trick if it’s still a thing of course.

    Skiptrace,

    It’s about to not be a thing. They are removing XBLG, and changing it to be “Gamepass Core” so the new 4 tiers of Gamepass are as follows.

    Core: 25 Gamepass Games + Online Multiplayer Console Gamepass: Full Gamepass Library, No Online Multiplayer. PC Gamepass: Full PC Gamepass Library (PC games don’t need Online Multiplayer as a paid thing) Gamepass Ultimate: Full Console+PC Gamepass Library + Online Multiplayer + Cloud Gaming

    storksforlegs, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
    @storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

    That’s the screenshot they’re going with? Really?

    MJBrune,

    Really, Mark Ruffalo? That’s the face you’re going with? God this movie’s gonna suck. - www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaZ73Yc75YE

    steakmeout,

    Ryan was truly a King. It’s been just over 10 years since his death.

    MJBrune,

    I’m sad he wasn’t around for the Australian beef. - www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPPPeyflV5I

    sarsaparilyptus,
    Stillhart, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once

    With Gamepass Ultimate you can do that without even buying it ONCE! Out of all the subscription services I pay for these days, I feel like Gamepass is one of the better values. YMMV of course, but I love it.

    Faydaikin,
    @Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

    Sadly, nothing good remains that way forever. The structure and terms of Gamepass will eventually change to something less optimal.

    Right now, the focus is to draw in people and create a “loyal” userbase.

    Once they’re content with the state of the userbase, they’ll start restricting access and features to make people pay extra for different “premiums” and it’ll slowly go to shit.

    It is ‘the way’ of mega-corporations.

    Stillhart,

    I guess. But it’s been pretty good for years at this point and it’s pretty easy to get REALLY good deals on it if you keep an eye out. I got three years of Ultimate for like $120.

    Either way, just because it may get worse later is no reason not to take advantage now.

    Faydaikin,
    @Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

    That’s cool. Although I don’t know about “deal.” It’s a subscription for access to a home-arcade in essence. You stop paying and everything goes.

    But alas, it is not for me to jugde. I’m not as big a fan of the whole ‘Games as a Service’ concept.

    bermuda, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once

    the minecraft model

    shiveyarbles, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once

    Woah there hoss, let’s make sure it’s worth playing on one platform first.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Unless they fuck it up worse than 76, I’m pretty sure Starfield will likely be remembered the same way Skyrim and Fallout 4 are.

    Seathru,

    Mediocre successors?

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Pretty much. They’re likely never to make something as good or that surpasses Morrowind.

    nondescript_citizen,

    I think there’s a good chance that they fuck it up as bad as 76. I’m willing to be proven wrong, Bethesda as a company hasn’t done much to convince me otherwise. I’ll be honest, their acquisition by Microsoft has only given me more monumental doubts. I think the biggest thing Bethesda has going for it right now is pedigree and the fact that the release of their last big series entry was so long ago that people are forgetting how terrible not just the releases were, but they way they handled them as a company, especially where the pre-order merch was concerned.

    WarmSoda,

    There was a play tester that said when Redfall released Starfield was in even worse condition and that’s when they decided to delay it for another year.

    I’m all for delaying games until they’re actually done, but it’s pretty telling they wanted to release both games in those states.

    As a company they’re definitely being held up by some rosy glasses. And mods. They bank on mods to fix whatever they’re too lazy to.

    Don’t forget to preorder Starfield so you can maybe receive a… wrist watch? Huh? Lol

    skurk, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
    @skurk@beehaw.org avatar

    *this will probably not work with the Steam version

    jordanlund,
    !deleted7836 avatar

    Fortunately, I have a Win11 boot drive for my Steam Deck.

    peanuts4life,
    @peanuts4life@beehaw.org avatar

    Yeah, this seems to be using the Xbox play anywhere system. So people who have a PC and an Xbox have thier saves synced. I’m sure it will not work steam.

    conciselyverbose,

    I still won't buy stuff there, but this is a far better way to make a storefront interesting than Epic. Instead of locking everything behind exclusive deals to try to force people to use your platform, they're adding actual meaningful benefits to using their storefront. Cross ownership is nice. Game pass is nice. That's how you provide competition.

    bermuda,

    i came to lemmy to escape the “fuck epic” circlejerk, thanks

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

    Nothing about Lemmy would suggest people would like Epic anymore than any other place on the internet. Their exclusivity deals have the potential to upset anybody regardless of what website they post on, so while there's absolutely a degree of hivemind hatred, it's rooted in understandable reasons.

    That being said, it's disingenuous of that person to imply that Epic never gives any good reasons to use the platform, the biggest being the waves of free games they put on "sale" from time to time, though you could go down another rabbit hole of whether thats really something that would make gamers want to use the platform, or if it's just a nice bonus people pop in to claim while still spending their money on Steam when it comes to actual purchases.

    bermuda,

    I wasn’t being completely serious about leaving for lemmy for that one particular reason. However, one of the biggest problem I found with gaming spaces on “that site” was a variety of dumb circlejerks and tribalism, which is something I was hoping this site would be free of due to a perceived level of maturity. This includes “le epic sucks” discourse.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

    It's hard to outrun that kind of human interaction anywhere that there are enough users and the anonymity of usernames, I do think it's not as bad on the Fediverse still, I hope it stays that way

    GhostMagician,

    Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean it’s automatically a circle jerk. People do have valid reasons for not choosing to spend money on the epic platform.

    Silviecat44,

    Yeah. Epic games is actually good now

    Carter,

    Free games aren’t an interesting incentive?

    Powerpoint,

    Halo works fine for cross save. You will have to but the game on steam as well though

    peanuts4life,
    @peanuts4life@beehaw.org avatar

    Oh it does? So you need two copies of the game, but cross save works on steam? That’s actually kinda useful for folks with steam libraries and game pass.

    Powerpoint,

    Halo and other Xbox titles do. You would have to purchase it on steam but you’d still get access to your saves.

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