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F_OFF_Reddit, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Either oldish titles or Indies, mainstream game devs are pure malaria

A_Random_Idiot, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I’m playing a new old game, because i’m playing the Suikoden Remaster. There for I have beaten the system by simultaniously playing both an 20+ year old game and a brand new game thats a few weeks old.

DontMakeMoreBabies,

I got a steam deck on the way and I’m so stoked to use it for Suikoden. I hope they remaster number three!

Mic_Check_One_Two,

The Steam Deck is actually wonderful for retro games. EmuDeck makes setting up emulators a breeze, and the roms can easily be found online legitimately ripped from your own copies of the game and loaded onto a MicroSD card.

A_Random_Idiot,

Suikoden 3 needs far, far more than just a remaster.

It needs a full blown remake, both of the story, and the game, to get rid of that trinity sight mechanic. cause the constant shifting perspectives absolutely kept me out of the game, cause every time I start to get invested boom rip me out of it and make me control someone else for a long period. I understand what they were trying to do, but it was one of the most fundamentally bad game design choices i’ve ever seen.

Suikoden 4 has a similar problem. They would need to remake that, too… and create a ton of new story and side content… because S4 is like a 7 hour game, that only takes 40 hours to play because of the absolutely ludicrously insane encounter rate… which is very blatantly used to pad game length time.

Suikoden 5, Hell… I dont even need a remaster. Just wrap the PS2 version in an emulator and release it on PC and I’ll be happy as can be.

stopforgettingit, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I am on a 6 year old computer playing 10 year old games. I don’t see a need to upgrade anytime soon.

HiroProtagonist,

I do hate being in the never ending upgrade cycle but the 10 year old games are limited, at least the ones I like to play.

Retropunk64,

I’m on a 5 year old computer playing 20-30 year old games. I’m good over here. 😂

stopforgettingit,

I bet WoW runs like a dream on that machine 😂

Retropunk64,

I haven’t tried it! That would be like giving a reformed crack addict a hit off the pipe. 😂 No way can I ever even consider going back to that game.

stopforgettingit,

If it makes you feel better, it will never be the same as it was when you first played. Every time there is a xpac that looks interesting I have tried and failed to get that feeling back. It devolves very quickly into feeling like a job again.

Retropunk64,

I just feel bad for my gnome warlock, endlessly flying around in purgatory on his magic carpet…

GreatAlbatross, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

I can agree with this: All the hype around KCD:2 led me to buying/playing KCD:1

PeteWheeler, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

New games just don’t have a ‘punch’ to it anymore. They are not not game breaking anymore.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with old games either. They are the same as they were, which is why reboots and remakes are so popular.

Luminocta,

I want to agree but some games are really well done. Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is a good example.

However

I feel like many people are so focused on graphics and looks, like raytracing for example, that gameplay/story has become less important? Sucks but it is what it is I guess…

ScoreDivision,

A good story isn’t something groundbreaking that marketing teams can slap on the box in the same way they can with ray tracing dlss or whatever else I guess

Zink, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

It’s the Baldur’s Gate saga for me right now, and I’m still in the BG1 campaign.

It is such a great game to play on the couch with a trackball while chilling with the family.

TechAnon, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I play Rocket League and ~30,000 MAME games on a converted Arcade 1up. I’m waiting for my payment to go through for Vintage Story though – that one is fairly new!

Slam_Eye, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Still playing Battlefield 1942 mods.

fmstrat, do games w WoW guild uses exploits to get world 'first' on new raid, gets banned, puts its name backwards and does it again

Incorrect.

First name: RAoV Quality Assurance

Second name: ecnarussAeR ytilauQ VoAR

Assurance != ReAssurance

suaroof, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I’m still playing Skyrim.

ipkpjersi,

I was playing a bunch of Skyrim with mods last year! Awesome game.

Razzazzika, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Well. The nature of my backlog is like I wait for games to come down in price and by the time I get to them they’re 10 years old haha.

I also have a habit of playing through the entire series before playing the newest one. I’m currently playing Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion which is the 4th game from Japan in that series but the 2nd to be released in US, SO I’m playing through it even though I don’t like it and will beat the next two games to finally play Trails in the Sky which is the one I really probably should have started with.

I do that with all my games, like Doom Eternal looks cool and so does the upcoming Dark Ages, but I went back and played Doom 1 & 2. 64, then the updated remaster of Doom 1 & 2 when that came out, and now I’m working on Doom 3. I got one more whole Doom game before I even get to Eternal.

ansiz, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

There is just so much time in a day and I think nostalgia does come to play with this as well. Gaming tends to correlate to being younger and having more free time, so by playing the same games you did back then you’re reliving those days.

Just a thought anyway, I tend to play older games as well, but also newer games like Baldur’s gate 3 or Path of Exile 2.

ABetterTomorrow, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

I bet a small portion of them don’t buy GPU every gen or ever other. 1080 Ti strong.

ottr,

1070 gang for me

Noite_Etion, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
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There are good new games, but i cannot afford to pay for them. Especially when I blow through them in a couple of weeks/days.

Which is why I pirate them as a lot of new games lack quality content, are often buggy, and riddled with dlc/micro transactions. Why risk my money on a buggy undeveloped game when I can ‘test’ them for free, at times I have gone back and paid for a game I really enjoyed… but that is super rare.

Plus GPUs are overpriced, especially with AI taking over as it is, the price is just going to go up.

Why bother with all of that when I can just boot up Factorio again. Additionally mods really make old games feel fresh again… And they are free.

Damaskox,
@Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

My principle is “One euro, for one hour”.

Does the game cost 40e? Am I unsure whether I’d enjoy the game for 40 hours? I’ll get it for free first. Does it stick for that 40 hours or more, or will I get sure enough while playing to play that 40 hours at least? OK, take my money. No? It gets forgotten in my folder, and probably deleted later.

buzz86us, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Because crypto miners ruined gaming top end GPUs used to be $300 Max, now were looking in the thousands to have the best GPU for like 6 months, and you can’t buy a used one because it could be a clapped out card used in a crypto miner

pdqcp, (edited )

Bitcoin switched to industrial ASICs a long time ago, and Ethereum has completely moved away from proof-of-work mining in 2022, see: ethereum.org/en/roadmap/merge/

The Merge was executed on September 15, 2022. This completed Ethereum’s transition to proof-of-stake consensus, officially deprecating proof-of-work and reducing energy consumption by ~99.95%.

GPU mining is pretty much completely dead because after Ethereum switched the yields on everything else tanked, no one mines with GPUs anymore, at least not for any major blockchain. GPUs are mainly being used with AI now

buddascrayon,

That doesn’t mean that their effect on the GPU market will up and vanish overnight. Market correction doesn’t usually go down as fast as it goes up.

Edit: add to that the tariff situation and the standoff with China and Taiwan (where all the processors for gpus are made), and you have a situation where things are just going to get more expensive no matter what.

frezik,

It’s AI at this point. Nvidia considers the gamer division to be vestigial. They were a $700B market cap company that was primarily known for gaming GPUs. They are now quadruple that with AI, and that’s even with some recent hits to their stock price.

partial_accumen,

The Merge was executed on September 15, 2022. This completed Ethereum’s transition to proof-of-stake consensus, officially deprecating proof-of-work and reducing energy consumption by ~99.95%.

I don’t follow crypto trends so I hadn’t heard about this either.

I had to look up proof-of-stake, and for Ethereum apparently is required to stake 32 coins to operate a node. Another google search shows me a single Ethereum coin is just north of $2k USD. So someone mining Etherium today needs to have more than $64k if Etherium to even run a node now?!

Bristingr,

It was 4k per coin. Source: me as I cry with my 2 ETH. 😭

Croquette,

Pay to play baby! Let’s reinvent the banking system by doing the same exact shit.

pdqcp,

Not really to be honest, the power is in the decentralization, permissionless and opensource nature of the system. You can’t get that out of the traditional system

Of course not all networks are the same and there are always shit ones out there that compromise on those tenets, but if you do your due dilligence, you will see there is value in some of them

pdqcp,

No, not really, you can start staking with as many as you want, see pooled staking: ethereum.org/en/staking/pools/

Staking pools are a collaborative approach to allow many with smaller amounts of ETH to obtain the 32 ETH required to activate a set of validator keys

You earn rewards proportional to the amount you stake

You only need 32 ETH to stake if you want to solo stake / home stake and you don’t pool resources with anyone else, see ethereum.org/en/staking/solo/

GoodEye8,

I don’t think it’s even necessarily that the GPU pricing has ballooned. I think the main reason is that that every new game has to compete with pretty much every other game ever made. For example I enjoyed Death Stranding and I am interested in Death Stranding 2, but I’m probably not getting in on launch because there’s a big chance I’ll probably start playing Stardew Valley for the n’th time, because I feel like that’s what I want to play. I’ll probably play DS2 when I get the Kojima itch.

Croquette,

IMO, GPU prices have an impact. Modern gaming has a bad habit of not optimizing games relying on people getting newer GPUs for performance.

Mix that with the pre-order/early access monetization, and we are to a point where games have made their money before release, and beans counters don’t want to put money in QA because there is no quantifiable ROI (there is a ROI, but it is hard to quantify), which is a no-no in their world.

Indie games have a tendancy to be less GPU demanding, and thus, usually have a better performance experience

ipkpjersi,

Yep, that’s the thing. Games have to be bigger, better, more fun than ever before, and yet the publishers and management want it to be done quicker and quicker than ever before, so it’s a pretty difficult thing. That, combined with bad working conditions and the public shitting on you because “game devs are shitty/greedy/etc” with developers being used coloquially to absorb all the blame that should be reserved for management, and things are in a pretty tough spot.

Though, at the same time, it’s a better time now than ever before to actually be a gamer, because not only can you play any half-decent new games, but you can also play the entire library of older games, retro games, etc.

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