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KingThrillgore, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Womp womp

Glide, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

God fucking dammit.

BoulevardBlvd, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

How the fuck are blizzard execs still getting fucking jobs?!?!! Jesus Christ people, could you find a worse person to run the company?

LucidNightmare,

Probably the point, honestly. If they lose money from it, at least they made it worse for the cattle who stuck with it!

dangling_cat,

Because he “has experience managing a public company” and in his portfolio only focuses on cherry-picked KPIs and no mention of any negatives at all.

I hate that our society encourages failing up and instead of punishment because of poor management skills and decisions, they do mass layoffs and give themselves fat bonuses because of “cost savings”.

Frankly, if a company fails, they will ruin other companies; it’s never their fault because of “complicated reasons”.

Telorand, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

Two alternatives:

  • Revolt. Has the Discord style down, made in Europe.
  • Matrix. Focused more on privacy.

Both have self-host options.

arsCynic, (edited )

Never heard of Revolt before, nice.

As a community I’d use Revolt if my game/mod/whatever is built upon extensive bot functionality, and Matrix if not.

TheRtRevKaiser,
@TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

I can’t tell for sure, but it doesn’t look like Revolt has voice chat yet? Which was what attracted my friend group to Discord initially.

Telorand,

I’m not sure, either. I haven’t used it yet, though that might come sooner than later after this announcement.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, sadly most open source alternatives to discord either cannot do voice/video chat or cannot do it as well or seamlessly as discord did, partially because federated voice/video chat is not really a solved issue and partially because of money. Though even most of the centralised ones don’t really have voice/video chat that works well except for a few like Signal because they have the resources.

Another problem is it’s based on p2p a lot of the time, whereas I think things like discord partially use their servers to facilitate it, I’ll check on this though.

msage,

Jitsi

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Jitsi doesn’t have e2ee except in a few situations and they don’t seem interested in bringing e2ee to all platforms, or they can’t. It also is somewhat buggy with disconnects etc. Also it’s meant for one off calls or meetings compared to discord, but yeah, it’s okay for some situations.

Natanox,
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Matrix could’ve implemented it with classic TURNS for a while now so the feature at least is there for those needing it, but they dug their own hole instead and focused so hard on their idea of a protocol they created software that hardly can do anything, and what is should be able to do it does really badly. Also for some reasons it was more important to throw away he concepts of “Communities” and build… “Places”. Now Element is a convoluted mess that <Error Decrypting Second Part of this Message>

SweetCitrusBuzz, (edited )
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, the people behind it always seemed to be more interested in getting corporate funding and thus gave corporations more what they wanted/needed instead of typical users and mods. This is part of the reason why I’m no longer interested in matrix main and more hard forks of it.

Inktvip,

Discord routes over their own servers and uses a private I3Dnet backbone to spread the signals across the world. The latter is one of the reasons why discord video is very good.

If discord did any p2p there would be stories all over of people getting ddos-ed after joining a voice call / screenshare.

In general, discords tech is pretty solid overall. The platform itself is just getting shittier.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Thanks for the info!

Yeah, sadly.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Three, before there was Discord there was TeamSpeak and they’re still fighting

Mesophar,

Ventrilo would like a word as well

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Have they had any recent developments?

TeamSpeak has been working on a new TeamSpeak 6 client and server that allows users to set up effectively their own personal federation of gaming servers with text, voice, and video chat rooms in a modern cross platform client that supports Windows, Mac, Linux and mobile operating systems.

They’ve also built up their own infrastructure so less technical folks can directly rent servers from them rather than needing to buy through a third party.

Die4Ever, (edited )
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I’ve got 2 gaming Discords I want to bridge with Matrix (and maybe Revolt too?) can you suggest an instance? one is for Deus Ex Randomizer, and the other is for The 7th Guest fan club

Note that when you join a Space, you are not automatically joining all the rooms inside it.

this is going to be a bit painful for people who are used to Discord

you can search public rooms but not public Spaces? how do you find Spaces? they should’ve copied the good parts about Discord lol (EDIT: I found the way to search public Spaces, I guess it can’t search across instances though which is a shame, it probably wouldn’t require much disk space to index the name and description of every Matrix Space)

I don’t even see rooms linking back to their Space?

tchncs.de has a lot of public spaces, I created my account using my Google but it just assumed my username :(

moonleay,
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Small note on Revolt: You can’t chat with other people which are on other servers. Revolt does not federate and is not encrypted!

JaymesRS, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

Everyone loves Activision and what they’ve done for gaming. There no way this could go wrong.

SaltSong, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO
@SaltSong@startrek.website avatar

Moving towards becoming a shit company, you mean.

Strayce, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

Well it was nice for a while there.

msage,

No it wasn’t

Fiivemacs, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

Sounds like a good time to reinstall ventrilo

Boomkop3,

Adding that to my list, I was looking at element (matrix), revolt and fosscord

otter,

I assume that one was a joke, Ventrilo looks very out of date

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventrilo

Revolt is nice though. Once they finish upgrading the app, it would be an easy switch

I didn’t know about Fosscord (now called Spacebar it seems), it looks cool github.com/spacebarchat

Spacebar is a free, opensource selfhostable discord-compatible chat, voice and video platform.

  • Discord-compatible (Use all your custom clients/bots with minimal changes)
  • Selfhostable (Server)
  • Open Source (GitHub Organization)
  • Configurable (Configure every aspect and limits to your needs)
  • Decentralized (no abuse of power and doesn’t have a single point of failure)
  • Extendable (secure and cross-platform plugin system)
  • Themeable (cross-platform theme system with design editor)
  • Secure (publicly audited and hosted FOSS software for transparent foundation in terms of security)
joelfromaus,
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Spacebar looks to be exactly what I’ve been looking for! Unfortunately, according to their FAQ the voice and video features aren’t implemented yet but here’s hoping that someone comes on-board to help set it up 🤞definitely an easy decision for a self hosted Discord alternative if that comes to fruition!

mooncake,
@mooncake@lemm.ee avatar

Ventrilo is what everyone used like 20 years ago it’s the OG of course it’s outdated

Ulrich,
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Fosscord changed to “spacebar” a while back. If you want a more Discord-like experience, try the Cinny or Comet Matrix client. And on mobile the SchildiNext Chat client. Although I really can’t recommend Matrix as a replacement at all.

Boomkop3,

I just want an experience my friends aren’t too stumped by. I’ll give them a look! Thank you!

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Matrix authentication process is confusing and annoying. If your friends aren’t technical, they’re going to have a bad time.

Boomkop3,

Ye, it is. I liked it but I don’t think many will. A non-paranoid mode or service for matrix would be nice

millie,

Do those have push to talk?

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Uhhhh I’m not sure, I only use the text functions

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Mumble is where it’s at.

Badabinski,

"Get off vent, or I'll have you bent."

I wish those stupid videos weren't the first thing my brain goes for when I see the word "Ventrilo."

Fiivemacs,

I immediately go to vent pranks from like 17 years ago where they recorded people’s voices in public chats, then played it back to them and cause some amazing confusion

‘found a ring in there last night…dropped your pants?’

youtu.be/b5AkIfgioA4

JohnEdwa,

4 STRENGTH 4 STAMINA LEATHER BELT! AAAH OOORHG!

the_q,

MANY WHELPS! LEFT SIDE!

yesman, do games w TV tie-in MMO looter shooter Defiance returns for a free-to-play third shot at life and gigantic messy boss battles
Postmortal_Pop, do games w TV tie-in MMO looter shooter Defiance returns for a free-to-play third shot at life and gigantic messy boss battles

This game was dumb in all the best ways, my cousin and I still quote this game all the time lol

VerseAndVermin, do games w TV tie-in MMO looter shooter Defiance returns for a free-to-play third shot at life and gigantic messy boss battles

It’s cool to see things get to stick around. I felt the same with APB from Little Orbit. It’s just cool to see games still exist.

very_well_lost, do games w TV tie-in MMO looter shooter Defiance returns for a free-to-play third shot at life and gigantic messy boss battles

Fingers crossed that Rift gets a similar revival… the game whose initial success paid for Defiance in the first place

reksas, do games w TV tie-in MMO looter shooter Defiance returns for a free-to-play third shot at life and gigantic messy boss battles

i liked the tv show of this

ampersandrew, do games w TV tie-in MMO looter shooter Defiance returns for a free-to-play third shot at life and gigantic messy boss battles
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

and I’ve got my fingers tightly crossed that the new owners will be able to keep it running long into its twilight years—even if they’ve got little planned in the way of fresh content

The Borderlands games made billions of dollars, and no one needs to keep them running.

UnbrokenTaco, do games w Tempest Rising accidentally launched a week early on Steam, and the publisher has decided to just go with it

There are a few reviews talking about data harvesting clauses in the EULA. I haven’t looked into it but might be worth double checking if that concerns you.

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