I’ve never felt more sick than after trying the VR for the first time. GearVR on Samsung Galaxy S6. Never happened again though, regardless of how much time I spent in.
The main issue on this headset was that I felt like my head was really small, while turning. I think the camera was just rotating on it’s own axis, or around a sphere that was way smaller than a human head.
There is a huge difference between gearvr and any sensible VR like the Vive, Pimax or Index. I’ve tried both. Gear made me almost barf immediately. I’m playing Project Wingman with no issue on the other headsets. There is a huge technological difference.
I don't believe that stat, based on my own personal experience. I've been a VR user for close to 10 years now and I've introduced many, many people to it. I've only had one person feel sick in any way in that entire time.
If a game uses smooth locomotion, instead of teleportation based movement, I cannot play it without air blowing into my face, or sometimes been at all. Otherwise I have no issues at all
VR was fine for me until I landed on a planet in Elite: Dangerous. The rover pitching back and forth was way too much. Never again will I put a headset on.
There is, and it absolutely failed to be a comfort when I tried it after I got sick the first time. The comfort mode functioned, but my brain was done with VR. I could not even use Google Earth VR without getting queasy.
It's not something you can force yourself through, unfortunately. The only way to get over VR motion sickness is to work up to it.
If you get motion sick after 5 minutes, spend 4 minutes every day doing basic things. After a couple weeks, you'll very likely be able to go about 10-15 minutes. So then spend 10 minutes every day.
The moment you get any sort of motion sickness, stop immediately. Nothing you can do will alleviate it and playing more isn't an option that day.
I do think most people are able to work up to and work through it, but most just try to brute force their way or expect that they'll immediately be able to do everything. VR is analogous to a craft, both vehicle and hobby. While you can just get right into a car or roller coaster and send it, chances are your body needs to adjust and learn a few things about it. And while you can just pick up painting right away, chances are you'll need to practice to learn techniques.
VR is very much a mix of both. Many people definitely can just get right on and pick it up pretty quickly, but that doesn't mean there isn't some amount of necessary adjustments.
Back in the 90's I owned a Forte VFX1 headset (shout out to my config.sys and autoexec.bat bros) and that truly tested your stomach but it was "the future" so everyone seemed to put up with the near constant nausea and vomiting. Things are so much better now, but there's one fundamental aspect of VR in my view that will always hold it back. It's not the cost, cos that eventually comes down. It's that you'll never get away from the fact that you are wearing a giant plastic thing on your head. You can't itch your face. It gets hot and sweaty and generally not a fun time after a while. The minute someone figures out how to safely somehow beam the experience into your brain, without having to wear a high tech casserole dish on your head for hours then it'll become the new global thing.
I wonder if this 40-70% demographic has actively tried to play it a couple times? My first experience with VR was incredibly disorienting, and yes, made me feel nauseated. But after playing for 2-3 hours across a handful of 15-20 minute sessions (passing it around a few friends for an evening) that just went away. Once the body uses it a bit and learns, even high-movement non-teleport movement games stop being an issue.
I wonder if I happen to be in that upper percent, or if the numbers in question are a matter of people who tried it once in their life and felt sick. Clearly the author has put real time into trying to move past it, but that doesn’t say anything for the study he quotes the “40-70% of players are 15 minutes” numbers from.
I played VR and had a blast. It was usually the ones that were mounted to the ceiling at a mall arcades. I could play no big deal for hours. My brother in law got a vr headset for Christmas and I tried to use it and got unbelievably sick after 20 minutes of playing it.
I played super hot, some moving zombie game, and that plank game on thw vr headsets at mall arcades with no problem moving around, twisting, and moving fast. I played a stationary puzzle game on my bil’s. I dont know what causes the sickness but it was veey bad on his unit. I womder if the suspension at the mall arcades made the difference, rather than having a free roaming headset.
Heard somewhere that it can get worse if you try to power through the nausea and sickness. Like your body remembers that it made you sick before and wants to actively avoid going through that experience again. So if you start feeling sick, especially when you first start out, stop playing.
Since you’re asking for anecdotes: my VR headset consistently made me sick following 30 min to an hour at the absolute max. I still played dozens of times for short spurts, but it never got better for me.
The biggest sin was not citing the study. It appears to come from an interview with a professor, and the range is based on variation across applications.
I can’t believe people are still on the VR gimmick train. 99% of what they want from VR is interactivity which can be done with a standard computer screen and the Wiimote-like controllers. Looking around with your head is neat-ish but is really the primary cause of the motion sickness and essentially cuts you off from the real world which can be incredibly dangerous as well.
Companies have tried to make VR a thing for decades now, and now that graphics and hardware technology have advanced, they’re doing a major push trying to make it an acceptable, “it’s everywhere now, so many people are using it” thing when it’s really not. It’s a niche device with a market share less than Linux (Linux itself, not Valve’s “fake Windows Linux device that just runs Windows games without paying Microsoft money – how is this not a violation of Windows TOS”) or MacOS and yet they say those are too niche and insignificant to care about while praising VR. It’s time to give it up and accept that VR is a worthless gimmick, and if you want interactivity, find better ways to do so without making people sick and cutting them off from the world around them.
Valve’s “fake Windows Linux device that just runs Windows games without paying Microsoft money – how is this not a violation of Windows TOS”
Valve uses a build of WINE called Proton, not Windows. Microsoft's TOS terms apply to Windows. They don't have anything to do with software that's simply able to run the same binaries.
EDIT: Ah, I looked at your comment history, and it appears to just be trolling, so I assume that this wasn't a serious question.
Trolling? No. What part of my history makes you think that?
Wine (and by extension, Proton) is simulating a Windows install with no Microsoft license. How is this not a clear violation of Microsoft’s TOS? I can see if you are just using it personally how it can be a grey area, but VALVE IS USING IT PROFESSIONALLY, INCLUDED WITH THEIR INSTALL, FOR PROFIT. Microsoft should sue the fuck out of them.
If you think that’s a troll, you have issues with reality. You can’t just create your own version of Windows (even one like Wine) without repercussions. Get over yourself.
Putting a bunch of APIs together in such a way as to create an entire copyrighted OS inside of another one 100% should be. You want to make DirectX itself for Linux, fine. But don’t tell me you think putting it and a ton of other Windows libraries together – even ones made “clean” – to run an OS very closely to its target OS (and this isn’t emulation, it’s making your own version of an OS) is not a problem.
Like I said, making Wine and using it casually for a single person isn’t the real issue here. It’s concerning, yes, but when a single user is using it for their own purposes, I think there’s nothing huge to be concerned with. When a major gaming corporation is using it as part of their own software running under a piece of their own hardware for financial gain – really? You don’t see the issue? How has Microsoft not seriously put an end to this already? If Microsoft is giving their blessing to this, they are opening up all sorts of copyright infringement across the board for software of all kinds.
Maybe if your mind is tainted by “Free software is holy and can never be wrong”, you have this idea that it’s fine. Free software is fine on its own as long as it follows a set of ethical and legal rules. Wine is definitely not doing this by allowing Valve to take their fork and making it part of their Switch-like hardware. Valve is specifically going full on Linux to avoid paying Microsoft for the rights to Windows on their machine, and using Wine/Proton to do this is simply wrong, no matter how you look at it.
I cannot believe anyone sees me as in the wrong on this issue. Valve should have pushed harder for native Linux gaming, but they failed, so they should have given up. Instead, they decided to do the wrong thing with something that should have been stopped from day one.
Big range. My main issue is just convenience. I have a PSVR2, and it’s just a pain to use. Like, you really have to dedicate yourself to using it. It has never felt like something you just do spur of the moment. You can’t just sit back and relax.
LMFAO, a lot of you guys sound so fucking bitter and I don’t understand. I used a Vive years ago and it was so much fun, zero nausea the very first time I played it and I played it for hours. The tech has only gotten better and better. Stay mad. 😂
Edit: Accidentally said Rift when I actually meant the HTC Vive. It was awesome.
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