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umbraroze, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@umbraroze@slrpnk.net avatar

Ok, so what is the current alternative nice option for SkyrimSE mods?

Preferably one with a mod manager/download client. Vortex is kind of janky but it did the job. I’d prefer not to manage any of this stuff manually, like cavemen. it’s been decades you shouldn’t need to do that

Vanilla_PuddinFudge,
@Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub avatar

Preferably one with a mod manager/download client. Vortex is kind of janky but it did the job. I’d prefer not to manage any of this stuff manually, like cavemen. it’s been decades you shouldn’t need to do that

MO2 can do anything Vortex can, and in fact, Stalker and Stalker 2 modders prefer it. The files just need to be hosted elsewhere. A lot of modmakers advise against using Vortex to begin with.

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@slrpnk.net avatar

Oh, thank you! MO2 seems a lot more clean and simple than Vortex.

…and in related news, now that I’m redownloading everything for funsies anyway, I have graduated from trying to keep my mod lists on a website to scribbling a list down in Joplin. With links and everything. In case these mods I’m using decide to move from Nexus or something.

Arcane2077, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

We all know how these things go, so I understand everybody’s fears but please wait to react until they make actual moves toward crossing the line. I remain optimistic about the site’s future, and the recent ways they handled user feedback as it has been changing in the last few years is evidence I should be

forgotaboutlaye,

I won’t stop using them because I (seemingly now foolishly) bought the lifetime membership, but I’ll be continuing to look for alternatives.

fyzzlefry,

I’m not going to continue to invest my time into an inevitable wreck.

Gronk, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Probably a good time to start up a rival mod site that every one will flock too after these guys backpedal on their word.

Something synonymous with Nexus… CapitalMods anyone?

ijedi1234,

I miss Filefront.

clif, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Promise in one hand, shit in the other, let me know which one fills up first.

Buffalobuffalo,

Let me just use this promise hand to send you a pic.

drmoose, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

As a software engineer i always found nexus simply archaic. Hot take but the molding industry might be better off with a new mod index.

hazl,

Here’s how it goes with half the games I mod these days.

  1. Game not manageable in Vortex out of the box
  2. Find the extension that makes the game manageable
  3. All popular mods are based on one single mod that acts as a framework or SDK for those other mods
  4. That prerequisite mod isn’t well maintained on Nexus, and the author recommends using $otherModManager to manage this game
drmoose,

Funny how all of that is straight up solved with any package manager or even git itself (with submodules) for free and yet gaming community is protecting some proprietary burning heap of garbage.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

The main problem in your setup is you installed Vortex. It and its prior incarnation Nexus Mod Manager have always been a thorn in actual mod developers’ sides. Mod devs can easily tell you where to extract the zip to, and what dependencies you need. Any load order manager type thing will always be better when designed specifically for the game you’re running. Having an “easy one click GUI!!!” doesn’t actually help anybody because modding different games isn’t a universally systematic process.

Blaiz0r,

It should all be open source.

First thing is mods should just exist on free hosting providers for source code like GitHub/Lab etc.

Then an optional mod manager software that can import mods from these sources.

Non of this really needs a centralised community, these places already exist thanks to other better suited services like social media

Ibuthyr,

But social media is 95% turbocancer…

Blaiz0r,

I mean things like Discord and Revolt, even Reddit is better for communities to discuss things about mods than the Nexus site

Ibuthyr,

I didn’t down vote you, but Discord is a huge offender regarding enshittification of the internet. Reddit might even be worse.

Blaiz0r,

That’s not my point though, they’re much better at holding discussion and keeping people updated than the Nexus mods site was

MonkderVierte, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Time to cancel the paid subscription for fast download i guess.

TheReturnOfPEB, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

No they will sell it to someone that will though

lechekaflan, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@lechekaflan@lemmy.world avatar

File a lawsuit. Paying customers are supposed to do that if they were given an explanation but in bad-faith language.

ICastFist, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I miss FilePlanet. That’s where I got my first Morrowind mods many years ago

At least GameBanana still exists, though there aren’t as many uploads there as Nexus. Still good that there’s an alternative

lechekaflan,
@lechekaflan@lemmy.world avatar

Fileplanet content is back but not how it looks right now.

CalipherJones,

Does anybody remember Cheat Planet or is that just me

flop_leash_973, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Won’t monetize it “to death”, just right up to the line of death.

UnrefinedChihuahua,

Define "death."

  • Some lawyer, probably.
Atropos,

'E’s only mostly dead.

drasglaf,
@drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’ll always be at 1HP from now on.

JigglySackles, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Maaaaaan. Fuck. I really like Nexus Mods. Get ready for another enshittifying ride to the bottom.

sp3ctr4l, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Reminder that ModDB still exists, and works.

EDIT:

Seeing as this is fairly decently upvoted now:

www.moddb.com

and also, I found this

github.com/loicreynier/awesome-modding

absolutely gigantic compendium of tons of mods, websites that have tons of mods for various games that are not nexusmods.

Elevator7009,

link for lazy folks like myself www.moddb.com

sp3ctr4l,

Sorry, I probably should have included that.

I’ve been modding games and making mods for games since before Nexus or SteamWorkshop or anything even existed… I guess people just genuinely have never even heard of moddb these days, like how gamefaqs is an ‘ancient relic’ or w/e.

goldenquetzal,
@goldenquetzal@lemmy.world avatar

I had never heard of it! Thanks for sharing

sp3ctr4l,

I also just found this:

github.com/loicreynier/awesome-modding

basically just a huge compendium of everywhere all kinds of mods for anything are hosted, that’ll give you an idea of how the game modding scene is actually rather dispersed, not only monopolized by nexusmods.

not sure if its in this huge list but:

fpsbanana

is another one i am quite familiar with, been going strong with mostly source mods… possibly since the late 90s, at the least the early 2000’s.

Darkenfolk,

you belong in a museum!

Wait, that site isn’t that old right? I used to use it for the battle of middle-earth mods.

Maybe I belong in a museum…

biofaust,

Up until now I thought moddb was all that existed.

DaedalousIlios, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@DaedalousIlios@pawb.social avatar

Jesus fucking Christ, they didn’t sell out to a fucking company! He transferred ownership to two long-time users of the site! There wasn’t even a deal struck, he just said “you’re the owners now!”

lime,
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

how do we know no money was involved? both the new owners apparently work at the same company, which was recently created and is a subsidiary of a vc firm.

DaedalousIlios,
@DaedalousIlios@pawb.social avatar

How do we know there was? How, exactly is one to prove that a transaction didn’t take place? Sure, he, the former owner, could say there wasn’t, but that doesn’t mean anymore or less than what he already has, which is that he believes the new owners share his vision for the site! And at least he picked two people who, to my understanding, have been around Nexus for awhile!

I’m not saying it’s impossible that Nexus enshittifies, and I understand that it’s been a trend lately, but this, as of this moment right now, feels like senseless panic that ought to be saved for when they actually do something wrong! I’ll join the hate wagon when they start brutally monatizing the site or taking IPOs.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

Do you know how easy it would be, if money was not transferred, for the new and old owners to both outright say so? Yes they could also lie but that’s irrelevant. if this wasn’t a capital driven transaction, they’d assuage many fears by telling us it wasn’t. They haven’t done that.

Exusia, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

Currently downloading everything to MO2 and setting to not check for updates huehuehue

People gonna see torrents for a “preset packages” of Skyrim mods

LiveLM,

As an outsider to Bethesda modding, given how difficult it looks, I’m surprised to hear this isn’t already a thing.

Gonzako, (edited )

well wabbajack works with nexus (You just buy one month for autodownloads) but I guess that’ll have to change

Exusia,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

I found a couple recommendation lists to “make the game look good” because I dont need all the fancy extras like body mods and weapons and grouped them together in load order, because I knew at some stage I could just package them nicely into a ZIP if I need to uninstall Skyrim for some reason. Glad to see I was ahead of the game

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

It really depends on how one is applyng mods. Bethesda does have their own mod site and in-game support for modding, and that’s pretty straightforward (and the only option on consoles). That will limit what mods are available.

I do kind of wish that there were one cross-platform open-source universal “game mod” program that could support multiple online services. Would like to have Wabbajack-like functionality (apply a whole set of curated, tested-together mods) as a base too, as that’d lower the bar.

ms_lane,

Modding community will never allow it, when Nexus allowed people to keep downloading old mods a bunch of authors decried it since they wanted the ability to remove a mod from the internet forever. It was ‘theirs’ (even though it’s just modified Bethesda data)

SolidShake, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

See all these free mods!? They’re just for you to use however you want to!! Pretty awesome right. Just enjoy this .5mbs download. Oh you want faster download speeds? Well… Sir. That will be $12 a month. Evil laugh

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Don’t they already do that?

SolidShake,

That’s the joke

mnemonicmonkeys,

Tbh, unless you’re downloading a DLC size mod or a big 4K textures pack the installs are nearly instant at the moment

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