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DarkFuture, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now
@DarkFuture@lemmy.world avatar

Built a new killer rig last summer. Have spent 90% of my time with it playing HL1 mods.

MufinMcFlufin,

Recently upgraded to a 7800x3D, 64GB DDR5, and a 4070… which I’ve been using to get back into modded Minecraft recently.

TinyShonk,

Tbf, the larger modpacks can be pretty resource intensive.

MisterOwl,
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Same machine… The framerates I’m getting in Rimworld are off the charts.

afronaut, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

That reminds me— I gotta do another Fallout: New Vegas run.

tal,
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Are you familiar with the A Tale of Two Worlds mod, which inserts Fallout 3 into Fallout: New Vegas to make them one giant game? If not, it’s a way to add some new life to the thing.

afronaut,

Yes, actually that was my intended next run! I just gotta remember how to set up everything.

Eheran, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Does “older games” only mean the initial public release? So world of Warcraft, Dota 2, Minecraft… all those games that are constantly updated etc. too?

Because that would be a really useless statistic. Many games are not a one time release and done thing anymore. They evolve over time. The games I listed have large player bases.

fishy,

Exactly what I was thinking. While it’s a great headline the article is nonsense. What about early access? Did those players play any new games? How much time was spent afk? Were those old games new purchases? This is a cherry picked statistic and almost certainly doesn’t paint a clear picture or tell any story except “live service games work”

Nosavingthrow, do games w PC gamers spend 92% of their time on older games, oh and there are apparently 908 million of us now

Oh, I’m sorry, I thought I just didn’t like games/am depressed/games are getting BETTER, actually.

ampersandrew,
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In general, I’d agree that games are getting better, if for no other reason that there are so many made these days that eventually you’ll find something great.

spankmonkey,
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If nothing else, the total volume of great games that are available to play keeps increasing because of massive improvements in backwards compatibility through steam and other online game distributors.

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  • mesamunefire,

    Indies are so good right now, and most without crazy DRM!

    spankmonkey,
    @spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

    Are they getting worse overall or are we just comparing all of the current AAA games to the best AAA of the past few decades? Or comparing the current versions of series to the high points, which might just be the first game in the series?

    We definitely have a number of high quality AAA games that come out each year. Most prior years had a few high quality AAA games and a lot of mediocre or terrible ones too. It’s kind of like music where the average quality over time is actually pretty consistent, but in any given year there are a lot of turds and there are certain trends that are common to those turds.

    90% of every entertainment medium tends to be terrible, but when we look back we mostly remember the 10% that were good and only a few of the absolute worst to laugh at.

    greenskye,

    AAA games are legitimately worse now than before, but the gulf isn’t as big as people are claiming.

    drosophila, (edited )

    I think they’re both better and worse.

    In the latter half of the 2000s and early 2010s AAA games were becoming increasingly hollowed out husks, with dumbed down paint-by-numbers gameplay and tons of QTEs. And its not like their narratives or art direction were any good either (it being the blurry brown piss filter era). In the same time period we saw the rise of predatory practices like day one DLCs and preorder bonuses.

    In more recent times I think we’ve actually seen a reversal of the gameplay hollowing out trend, and an improvement in art direction. However with the rise of lootboxes, trading, and gatcha, monetization schemes are more predatory than they’ve ever been (though these are mostly concentrated in multiplayer games). Its also really common now for games to release in an completely broken and unplayable state.

    greenskye,

    I feel like a huge number of franchises were started back in the day, but everything now is just sequels and remasters of old games.

    How many of the current biggest AAA titles got their start in the 2005-2015 era vs the number of new franchises in 2015-2025?

    Creativity seems to be mostly dead and games all have to be mega hits or they’re considered a failure. There’s also a distinct lack of AA games (the successful of which often later became AAA titles).

    p03locke, do games w Another live service shooter is getting shut down, this time before it even launched on Steam
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Maybe don’t launch live service shooters? They are a dime a dozen.

    subignition, do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'
    @subignition@piefed.social avatar

    The rarest human resource there is: good management.

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Or bad management and it’s an inefficient mess that simultaneously breaks its workers.

    sic_semper_tyrannis, do gaming w The PlayStation Network outage proves PC gamers were right to resist its mandatory sign-in requirement

    Now let’s go one step further and quit purchasing games with DRM from a particularly large PC gaming service

    pipariturbiini,

    I’m all for competition and against forced DRM. But the PC gaming service ʀᴇᴅᴀᴄᴛᴇᴅ that you’re referring to offers genuinely good services on top of just accessing games - social platform, (voice) chat, remote play (together), streaming video to friends, communities, easy access to mods, linux support, makes multiplayer easy, etc…

    sic_semper_tyrannis,

    So are most services and then at some point do some type of rug pull with BS EULA changes, etc. that change the functionality of what you’re using. This is prevailant in everything now a days. I’d say with Steam the writing is on the walls. They have so much power in the PC gaming market (like with the examples you gave) it’s only a matter of time.

    I do see how useful and user friendly those services you mentioned are

    blackris,
    @blackris@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Yeah, fuck Epic!

    sic_semper_tyrannis,

    I was thinking Steam but Epic, EA, Ubisoft; they’re all riddled with crap

    JokeDeity,

    I can’t fathom how anyone has an issue with Steam, they’re one of the only straight shooters in the game.

    sic_semper_tyrannis,

    Read their EULA, you license your “purchase”. You don’t own your games. Steam also injects their own DRM onto the vast majority of games.

    crusty,

    Do any stores say you own the games? I feel like this isn’t a Steam specific thing

    sic_semper_tyrannis, (edited )

    GOG has no DRM. Once purchased you can download the files and own it. You could even write your games to CDs if you wanted and play like the old days.

    Edit. I was setting up a new laptop for my Dad. I remembered we used to play an old fighter jet game when I was young. I looked it up and found out it was Falcon 3. I then found GoG sells it. So I purchased it on my account and loaded it onto his computer with no reference to GoG, no clients, etc. It was a surprise for him when he got his new computer.

    JokeDeity,

    I own a lot of games on GoG, but I fail to see the practical difference. If GoG were to go under, there’s not going to be any free service hosting all your data and the games for download. It all disappears, just like if Steam were to go under.

    Templa,

    The difference is that if you have your files you still can play the games if GoG goes under, while steam games will be unplayable because they need to communicate to steam (or have steam offline on your PC). I heard that steam drm is easy to remove but I don’t have much knowledge in that regard

    TachyonTele,

    You can do the same thing with almost all the offline games on steam.

    Don_alForno,

    If steam goes under, a significant portion of your steam games won’t launch anymore, period. If GOG goes under, you can still use 100% of their installers, provided you still have them backed up. No, they are not going to be able to do that step for you. Did the store you bought physical games from put your discs in storage for you, so they wouldn’t clog up your basement? Did they give you a new copy if you lost or threw out your disc and then changed your mind?

    DiabolicalBird,

    The vast majority of digital purchases are licenses, this isn’t something new or unique to Steam. Digital purchases where you actually own the product are more the exception than the rule.

    sic_semper_tyrannis,

    Then let’s support the good companies to make it the rule and not exception. The market won’t change until the consumer tells them what’s important

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    Even when you were buying games on physical media, you didn’t own the software itself. You just owned a disc with the software on it.

    Don_alForno,

    Until the day after Gabe kicks the bucket.

    RogueBanana,

    So what do you suggest? Gog is not a contender for me unless they add equivalent regional pricing (in my region), payment options, Linux support (proton), mod workshop, easy multiplayer connectivity, community pages like guides, friend list with messaging and voice chat, etc. Would love to get things on gog but the only thing it has going is DRM free and a ton more negatives. If steam were to rug pull or whatever then I would just go back to the seas.

    sic_semper_tyrannis,

    That’s unfortunate to hear. I doubt anything will compete with Steam with all the things you want. People need to choose to put value where it really matters and have some inconveniences. Pirating certainly won’t get you what you want. Supporting DRM free services (and the games devs) will do more good. You could download your GoG games through the Heroic launcher and it’ll use wine proton (or whatever it’s called). Also Nexus mods has a new mod manager that’ll work on Linux but it’s only in alpha stage currently.

    RogueBanana,

    I don’t mind the lack of launcher too much as I already use heroic and have a couple of free gog and epic games there. The biggest blocker for me rn is the payment options and not so great regional pricing compared to steam. It seems to have improved but still not enough so maybe they it will get better in a couple years.

    Edit: One more thing. It’s not that I don’t want to support gog but I actually want to support steam for what they did for Linux and still be relatively consumer friendly. I wouldn’t even be using Linux right now if it wasn’t for proton.

    saltesc, do games w Manor Lords, the best city builder of 2024, hits 3 million sales as players continue to fill its maps with muddy medieval towns

    My god is it a cunt to play, though…if your ADHD is off the charts you’re a perfectionist like me.

    Highly recommend.

    MonkderVierte, do games w Sony finally surrenders: PSN accounts will be 'optional' for games on Steam, but they'll give you free stuff if you sign up

    Patient gamers be like: look, this is what they need to do to emulate a fraction of our power.

    MilitantAtheist, do games w Diablo 1 and 2 devs secure $4.5 million for a new ARPG: 'We're going back to what made those early Diablo games feel so awesome but taking them in some cool, fresh directions'

    “Sounds great, but hear me out, how about everything is AI generated!”

    I’m sure I’ve called it.

    CptOblivius,

    They’ve used procedurally generated parts since the start, which is basically early ai. Hopefully they don’t go full monty though.

    RandomVideos,

    AI is also used to describe enemy behavior

    Don_alForno, do games w Exodus, the new game being led by BioWare veteran James Ohlen, finally reveals some gameplay, and boy it sure looks like Mass Effect

    but I’m back to feeling rather ambivalent about the whole thing, which to my eye looks like nothing so much as an alt-universe Mass Effect.

    And that’s supposed to be a bad thing?

    More Mass Effect is always a win in my book.

    merthyr1831, do games w 'I want to acknowledge that we messed up': NZXT addresses concerns about its controversial Flex gaming PC rental program and commits to taking action

    lol nice try NZXT

    DontMakeMoreBabies, do games w 'I want to acknowledge that we messed up': NZXT addresses concerns about its controversial Flex gaming PC rental program and commits to taking action

    Renting a gaming PC seems dumb as fuck.

    MutilationWave,

    Renting most things long term is dumb as fuck, yet Rent-A-Center is a thing. Technically they do rent to own, but they will set you up with a whole shitty bachelor pad. $10 a month for the table, 20 for the couch, and only 50 for the TV. Over a five year loan. They will and do repo shit and rent it to the next dumbass. Quick what’s 50 times 12 times 5? Doesn’t matter I have a shitty big screen for only fifty bucks!

    catloaf,

    Even if it works out to spending $3000 on the end, that’s still only $80/month, and their demographic is people living paycheck to paycheck who don’t have the few hundred at any one time to buy the stuff outright.

    MutilationWave,

    Yeah $3000 for a $600 TV. Just like in the gamers Nexus video, you’d be better off buying it on a credit card.

    kyle, do games w Critical Role's plans to make a videogame have become an 'active pursuit', says CEO Travis Willingham, after almost 10 years of growing a D&D campaign into a full-on franchise

    I’m interested but not especially optimistic. Depends on who is actually making the game, I believe they know tabletop games well, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to a CRPG.

    Random aside, the article says Marisha Ray voiced Jaina Proudmoore, but it was really Laura Bailey.

    Kyrgizion, do games w Warcraft Rumble, Blizzard's first new RTS in years, will finally shed its mobile shackles and come to PC in December
    @Kyrgizion@lemmy.world avatar

    No thanks.

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