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EarMaster, do games w Star Citizen is on course to reach $1 billion in player funding in 2026, and we still might not get to play its singleplayer campaign next year
@EarMaster@lemmy.world avatar

I can somehow understand the people who funded it in the first place, but who invests now in a project which has already been in development hell for more than a decade and produced barely anything playable. Every whale has already been milked - what return of investment can an investor expect from Star Citizen?

directive0,
@directive0@lemmy.world avatar

Not to defend SC too much, and full disclosure I don’t play it. But I have friends who DO play it and it seems like they are having a lot of fun?

They aren’t evangelists for the game or anything, so its not a fanboy situation. They just play it a lot, and with lots of other people. They have an online community and meet up IRL for events. Post vids of their exploits. It seems fun to me? I asked them about the bugs and stuff and they fully admit it is buggy and things are broken, they make no apologies for it. They figure out workarounds and share it with the crew. I don’t know, these guys are usually pretty critical of games but they seem happy weirdly. Maybe a cult?

There is no fucking way that I am ever going to pay for a fake star ship or anything so I’m not even considering it. And the entire funding model of the game seems batshit insane to me. But to me it seems like the idea that the game is unplayable doesn’t really match the reality? Its clearly not a good value proposition at all.

boywar3,

It definitely is actually “playable” now, and I’ve had a good amount of fun playing it this year, but it certainly isn’t ready for release or anything.

That said, the network infra they have created is pretty cool: 600+ player servers with relatively little issue, and the goal of 1000 long term is quite a feat of engineering.

They fucked themselves overpromising so much back at the beginning by giving the release dates they did while using like, Unity or something, and now they have the infra/engine to deliver, but nobody trusts them to actually do so.

turmacar,

Are 600 player servers impressive? I’m sure they have plenty of hardware and engineering involved but that doesn’t sound exceptional as much as expected for the scope they’re aiming for.

WoW is a simpler game, in that it’s effectively 2 dimensions and doesn’t involve physics, but that would be a fairly low server population, especially back in it’s heyday. Ditto for many other big MMOs.

EvE has 600+ player battles on a fairly regular basis, much less on a server instance in general.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Is it 600+ players on a single server, or is it like WoW/UO/EQ where the game world is spread across multiple servers, so it’s not ever actually that many people on a single server? It was kind of important for PvP to know where the server lines were because crossing them caused a spike of lag as it switched the server you were on.

If it was a single server that would be impressive. Otherwise, it’s pretty laughable.

turmacar,

I can’t imagine it’s a single physical server anymore but a server instance across many blades / VMs / whatever. But absolutely there are many games where “600+” on a server would be considered a sign of a dying population.

boywar3,

I’m not super knowledgeable with how it works, but it is essentially a system for seamless jumps between multiple servers “meshing” them together so there is zero noticeable lag time between them. There isn’t a single loading screen going across multiple star systems, which is a pretty significant achievement, especially given how detailed the game itself is.

I’ve never played World of Warcraft or really any MMO, but it is my understanding that there are areas to load into new places (a short black screen on entering a building, a “portal” to another zone, etc.).

this,
@this@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s still $45 to access the game if you don’t have it yet(and that counts as a pledge, and therefore part of the game’s funding), but yea as a player and a backer I essentially agree. You’re basically spending money to skip game progression after the final wipe before release(whenever that happens).

IMO it takes some of the enjoyment out of the game even in its current buggy alpha form. You can earn basically everything except for the most recently(ish) released ships(and some cosmetic items) entirely within the game.

You do get a game to play for $45 though. A game with a zillion bugs and issues but a game nonetheless. I personally feel like it was worth $45 for the entertainment value I’ve gotten out of it. Not worth the amount I spent(like a decade ago), but the first $45 feels worth it now.

That being said, don’t buy the game if you expect a polished experience.

korendian, do games w Star Citizen is on course to reach $1 billion in player funding in 2026, and we still might not get to play its singleplayer campaign next year

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  • CptOblivius,

    2016, for me. 42 was supposed to release the next year…such a scam…

    boonhet,

    They have scaled back their projections for 1.0 from 100 systems to 5.

    Wow is that the first realistic thing they’ve done?

    silver_wings_of_morning, do games w Star Citizen is on course to reach $1 billion in player funding in 2026, and we still might not get to play its singleplayer campaign next year

    yeah but how sick is the game gonna be after $1 billion in funding

    ivanafterall,
    @ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

    Now imagine it being double that good for just $2 billion!

    CosmoNova, do games w Star Citizen is on course to reach $1 billion in player funding in 2026, and we still might not get to play its singleplayer campaign next year

    People still contribute to this scam? That‘s a shame.

    jordanlund, do games w The game "Horses" now barred on Steam, Epic and Humble Bundle
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Sounds like the gaming equivalent of the play “Equus”.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equus_(play)

    I can see why some would shy away from it, but banning it is the sort of thing that will keep gaming from becoming a unique art form. 😟

    dukemirage,

    It already is a unique art form. This is not defined by the commercial availability, and this game wouldn’t be the first art piece that understands controversy as part of its essence.

    _cryptagion,
    @_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus avatar

    It was a child doing pony play, riding a naked adult man-horse. The dev claimed it was not sexual.

    I don’t think gaming needs CSAM to be a “unique art form”, but you do you.

    jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Read the plot summary of the play Equus linked above.

    Like I say, this sounds like the gaming equivalent of Equus, which, when performed, involves a character supposed to be 17 doing exactly that.

    The horses on stage are supposed to be “real” horses, but are performed by human actors. The male actor in these scenes is also typically nude.

    NGL, it’s a HEAVY play to read and even heavier to watch, but it also won the 1975 Tony Award for best play…

    douglasg14b, (edited )
    @douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

    Y’all need to read what CSAM is. Questionable or objectionable art isn’t CSAM in the same sense that drawing a murder isn’t murder and drawing Noncon isn’t rape.

    Depiction isn’t harm, if it was damn near all literature would be in the same category.

    Let’s not go down that slippery slope.

    Books like Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret – Judy Blume would be considered abuse material on such an asinine slope.

    _cryptagion,
    @_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus avatar

    Y’all need to read what CSAM is. Questionable or objectionable art isn’t CSAM in the same sense that drawing a murder isn’t murder and drawing Noncon isn’t rape.

    it’s literally legally defined as CSAM in most western countries. and I probably wouldn’t be arguing otherwise, since it looks like the other dude who did that got all his posts deleted by the mod.

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    drawing a murder isn’t murder and drawing Noncon isn’t rape.

    Drawing people having sex isn’t sex, but it is porn. Verbally attacking someone isn’t assault, but it can be abuse. Drawing a comic where someone tortures and then kills the president of the United States isn’t murder, but it will get the FBI knocking on your door.

    NotMyOldRedditName, do games w Uh oh: Ubisoft postpones its quarterly financial report at the last minute and halts stock trading

    I’ve never heard of this happening before? I’m sure it has, but first time for me.

    M0oP0o,
    @M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

    Oh it has, but the implications become clear when you look at the ones that did. Like evergrand…

    LuigiMaoFrance,

    Same. Companies can just halt trading of their stock?

    Hawk,

    Yeah, it happens to prevent a mass sell-off because of speculation.

    Even if the news is positive, postponing is enough to make people speculate, so it’s a valid reason to halt trading.

    Although I doubt it’s gonna be positive news for shareholders.

    Kjell,
    @Kjell@lemmy.world avatar

    It happens sometimes. Usually it is when there are rumors that will have a significant impact on the stock. In that case the stock can be halted until the company gives a statement about it. I’m not sure if it is the company can halt it, I think they can request it and provide information why it should be halted and then it is up to the stock exchange to determine. And the stock exchange has its own rules for when to halt the trade.

    I expect Ubisoft to update during the next week or perhaps already during the weekend and then the trading can continue.

    Xotic56,

    Yes because its all completely fabricated bullshit.

    Pretty much a scam.

    Cricket, do games w Uh oh: Ubisoft postpones its quarterly financial report at the last minute and halts stock trading

    Maybe the dog ate their homework?

    KarlHungus42, do games w US government uses Halo images in a call to 'destroy' immigration, Microsoft declines to comment

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    scrubbles, do gaming w Sony accuses Tencent of playing a 'shell game' with its Horizon-like survival game, seeks a preliminary injunction against it
    !deleted6348 avatar

    This one is pretty clear. Tencent is saying that Sony is trying to copyright an entire genre, like sci fi.

    In reality it’s more like if Sony made Star wars, and tencent made the star of death with the jidoos with lasersabres. Tencent is just trying to say “how dare you trying to copyright sci fi!”

    t3rmit3,

    It’s not copyright, it’s trademark. Sony isn’t claiming they’re the same characters, they’re claiming that the style is so similar that people would mistakenly believe that Light of Motiram is actually a Horizon game, which is why this case is so stupid; it is a blatant ripoff, but ripoffs aren’t illegal, and no one is going to actually mix them up.

    specialwall, do gaming w As Game Pass prices get laughably high, Microsoft is reportedly spinning up a free version of Xbox Cloud Gaming—but of course you'll have to sit through ads

    I was wondering how they would be able to run such an expensive service based on just one person’s ad revenue:

    Microsoft is also currently testing a limit of one hour for sessions, with up to five hours free a month

    I just don’t understand how Microsoft thinks someone is going to sit through minutes of ads and be okay with only 5 hours per month in return.

    savvywolf,
    @savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

    When I was a kid my parents would only let me play games for half an hour a day. That works out at, using the monthly times, three times as much as Microsoft is letting people use.

    Microsoft, is it an ad supported tier or a limited trial. Pick one.

    BastingChemina, do games w EA CEO says company values will 'remain unchanged' under the new ownership of Saudi Arabia and Jared Kushner's investment firm

    This is what I just saw on my thread:

    1000059273

    Who need satire at this point?

    tigeruppercut, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

    I can’t decide if the explanation that “our shitty game is made for premium gamers” is more or less absurd than EA charging 80 bucks for a game with most of its characters still locked would “provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment”.

    livejamie, do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'

    I’m surprised that Palworld was even able to release, honestly.

    NocturnalMorning,

    Why? Anybody who’s played it knows it only has a passing resemblance to Pokémon. Once you play the game, you realize how different it is in its mechanics and story from pokemon.

    Nintendo doesn’t own the idea of monster taming. The idea predates their company by quite a bit actually.

    livejamie,

    I agree, but Nintendo usually gets away with legally bullying companies

    JackbyDev,

    What’s frustrating is that the thing that is arguably questionable (the art of some of the characters) isn’t what is the subject of anything. Nope. Ball throwing.

    JcbAzPx,

    That’s because copyright and trademark are more specific than patents. You have to use the exact look to be in violation. Patents are more of a vibes protection. You can sue for close enough.

    XenBad, do games w The sequel to Half-Life modding classic Pirates, Vikings & Knights quietly hit 1.0 after nearly 18 years of development: 'It's been over 6,500 days since PVK2 was unleashed'

    Been playing this, would recommend to anyone who likes source engine games. Devs seem pretty nice too from what I watched of Vinesauce Vinny’s stream.

    PineRune, do games w The sequel to Half-Life modding classic Pirates, Vikings & Knights quietly hit 1.0 after nearly 18 years of development: 'It's been over 6,500 days since PVK2 was unleashed'

    Wow I remember playing the original mod back in the day, when Source Mods had a player base. Good times.

    Agent_Karyo,
    @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

    My favourite was Zombie Panic! Played that so much.

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