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undeadfoodsnob, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is
@undeadfoodsnob@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks UbiSoft for rubbing it in my face with this message, “You no longer have access to this game. Why not check the Store to pursue your adventures?”

the_post_of_tom_joad,

Urhg that makes me mad to read.

You no longer have access to my money. Why not kiss my ass Ubisoft, to pursue your adventure?

xamirozar,

“Your single-payment rental period is suddenly over. Check out our shop where you can single-payment rent another game.”

Fixed it for Ubisoft

JoeKrogan, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Boycott this shit company

Veraxus,

Been doing that for years. Will happily continue.

But I’m just one person. Ubisoft won’t feel it unless hundreds of thousands more do the same.

JoeKrogan,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Same

Son_of_dad, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is

When Nintendo eshop closed, I lost all my purchases. I tried contacting Nintendo to see if they could transfer my purchases to my switch account, but contacting Nintendo is like trying to contact god, you’re gonna get nowhere

redcalcium, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is

I can’t believe they double down on this. It seems ubisoft’s management actually thrives on gamers’ rage.

rickyrigatoni,

Well they are french.

NoneYa, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is

The biggest reason I never bought this game. I didn’t know they’d go to this length, but knew that they’d be shutting off servers at some point and the game would be worthless. All that money anyone spent on it and the in-game items is now gone. All in Ubisoft’s pocket and all you’re left with is memories of playing the game. Wanna go back for some nostalgia? lol, no, fuck you. Just wait and hope a sequel will get released so they can continue the cycle.

kaine, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is

How the digital ownership normalized the fact that any service, game can disappear easily. The full digital future empowered the corporations, and that issue is here clearly shown by Ubisoft.

umbrella, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

release server software and let us self host!!!

they dont even need to foot the cost for anything.

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

That eats into their profits for their other/new games

solarvector, do gaming w I tried two demos of machine learning AI NPCs, and they didn't convince me AI will lead to anything that immersive sims like Deus Ex haven't already done better

It isn’t if they can do better, it’s if they can do cheaper.

They’ll get better when better drives ad revenue.

Mango, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is

As if copies of a game on your computer is somehow more digital than the copy being on a disk or a chip that’s ROM.

evranch,

Digital ownership, not storage. As in DRM, GaaS licensing and always-online launchers.

A ROM cartridge was physical ownership, if you had the cartridge, you could play.

A CD-key was also a form of physical ownership, install the game and type in the key from the case, you could play.

richmondez,

That should be “ownership” as actual ownership implies having control over a thing and no one who “purchased” this seems to have much control. Breaking the DRM and creating a self hosted sever is taking ownership of it. Don’t pretend CD keys were physical ownership either unless the key was entirely validated offline which admittedly older key schemes were.

UndercoverUlrikHD, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is

It’s a shame, but people are asking for it when they buy, and therefore support, these kind of games. If people simply refused to buy always-online games, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

chuckleslord,

Literally victim blaming. Classy.

original_reader,

Blaming the player goes a bit far, true.

That said, the sad truth is that companies only react when it affects their bottom line.

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

Well, there's the other route. If they are forced legally to comply, which is what Ross is trying to get done, and is the far better option alongside being more expensive and difficult, because a company's reaction to finances can be reversed as soon as it doesn't matter or the public forgets.

jyoskykid,

It is general knowledge that these companies do this. FSF has campaigned a lot against DRM, under the name Defective by Design.

When someone makes a contract with the devil and complains when it affects them, pointing it out is not victim blaming.

AeroLemming,

I don’t think it was very well-known in 2014. Besides, “everyone should know that this is a scam” isn’t a reason to make scams legal.

stsquad, do gaming w I tried two demos of machine learning AI NPCs, and they didn't convince me AI will lead to anything that immersive sims like Deus Ex haven't already done better

A bunch of generative filler text won’t games more immersive. Maybe there is some scope in giving the model hidden details you need to coax out of it LA Noire style but currently everything seems a bit gimmicky.

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe it could be a benefit for asking questions to NPCs devs didn’t think you’d want to ask that. Like asking a city resident where the market is. Probably not today but perhaps one day.

Jajcus,

Then every charakter would probably need his own AI model, otherwise everyone would know everything, which would not be immersive at all.

JackGreenEarth,

They would need their own preprompt, that’s all.

jmcs,

If you give LLMs that much latitude you are going to have your NPCs spread conspiracy theories and fascist crap left and right in your game and a PR crisis on your hands.

GlitterInfection, do gaming w I tried two demos of machine learning AI NPCs, and they didn't convince me AI will lead to anything that immersive sims like Deus Ex haven't already done better

Ok. So call me when it’s ready.

I am unimpressed by the nonsense articles like these coming out about early tech.

You won’t convince me that AI can’t exceed “taking an arrow to a knee” quality dialogue repeated over and over, and that shit is still the best immersion we’ve got!

zurohki,

I think we’re going to see major NPCs get their dialog hand-written and background characters get AI dialog.

You could have random shopkeepers ramble on for hours about how their kids are doing in school or trouble they’re having with a delivery company or whatever topic. Nobody’s going to write that, but we could AI generate it.

GlitterInfection,

Exactly!

People are expecting this to take people’a jobs so they’re picking apart the tech instead of paying attention.

Making an NPC be run by AI most likely will require more writing than it does now, but the end result will be worth it for games that strive for immersion.

elshandra,

All your base are belong to AIs

Immersive_Matthew,

To those who embrace and use AI.

Grass, do gaming w I tried two demos of machine learning AI NPCs, and they didn't convince me AI will lead to anything that immersive sims like Deus Ex haven't already done better

I would feel inclined to use it for some weird shit like if you use an undocumented and never explained method to ask characters questions outside of the choices, they’d pick up their phone and look at you with an uncanny valley/bethesda-like facial expression gain awkward animations and text you the responses even though they weren’t characters you could exchange phone contacts with.

agressivelyPassive,

Not even “weird” shit, just variations of similar sentiments on various characters.

Like, you have a city with hundreds of people on the street, yesterday something noteworthy happened and everyone has an opinion on that. Each NPC gets a bunch of parameters, some pre-defined, some random, and answers based on that.

teolan, do gaming w Ubisoft is stripping people's licences for The Crew weeks after its shutdown, nearly squandering hopes of fan servers and acting as a stark reminder of how volatile digital ownership is
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

If you want to do something about it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70Xc9CStoE

supersquirrel,

If you want to do something about it just go play beam.ng or motor town or another racing game from a smaller dev.

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

Not the same thing at all. When the Crew is lost, a unique game and its world are lost with it. That's like saying if you want to play something like Metal Gear Solid you can go play Hitman. They're broadly the same genre, but a lot of unique art and experience is lost by just giving up and letting it go the easy way.

DudeDudenson, do gaming w I tried two demos of machine learning AI NPCs, and they didn't convince me AI will lead to anything that immersive sims like Deus Ex haven't already done better

I’d like to think it’s gonna be used for what it should be. What’s most likely is that it’ll be used to reduce both original VO and Writing

Be prepared for asset flip dialogue

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