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DieserTypMatthias, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Game for everyone is a game for no one.

Treeniks, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

I feel this is a bit disingenuous. The original Steam forum post said:

when straight comin out.

Calling that even a complaint is beyond me, and mocking the poster seems unnecessary. I don’t understand the intention behind this new title. As purely a joke against that forum post, I guess, but are they trying to mock straight sexuality?

If I can express my sexuality if I’m gay, why refuse that same ability if I’m not? Maybe I’m interpreting too much into it, but I don’t find it funny. I like it when people can be proudly and openly gay/trans/bi, but I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight. Or in other words, this game now gives me the message “if you are not LGBT, it’s not for you” which I guess is fine if that’s what they want.

imogen_underscore,
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I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight.

hitler-detector

Treeniks,

I like it when people can be proudly and openly gay/trans/bi

??

imogen_underscore, (edited )
@imogen_underscore@hexbear.net avatar

you know “straight pride” is in the same category of thing as “male pride” and “white pride”, right? it’s a homophobic thing to invoke. nobody cares that you’re part of the hegemonic sexuality group, it’s not something to be proud of.

Treeniks,

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  • imogen_underscore,
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    davel,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight

    Do you hear yourself? “I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly white.”

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_pride

    The only reason “gay pride” exists in the first place is in reaction to oppression. The straights have in no way been suppressed, and “straight pride” is nothing but a backlash to gay liberation.

    Treeniks, (edited )

    Maybe we have a different view on what pride means, but I see no reason to be ashamed of being straight, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being white, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being gay, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being black. LGBT+ inclusion is not the same as straight exclusion. Gay pride, from what I understand, at its core is about being proud of yourself and not having to hide your ethnicity. That goes both ways, and I sure as hell would feel like I’m being shamed for being straight in this game. Not a great message is it?

    Like I’m genuinely trying to understand here. How is shaming straights helping gay pride?

    Anticorp,

    but are they trying to mock straight sexuality?

    Yes

    Madison420,

    Sorta. They’re pointing out the fact is the default is straight, if you want to scream it at people well that’ll cost you some money.

    It’s dumb, super petty and ultimately inane as are most identity politics. I get the point to an extent but anything to either extreme gets a bit grating and irritating.

    happybadger,
    @happybadger@hexbear.net avatar

    but I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight

    Ignoring all the power dynamics reasons why this is nonsensical, what does straight pride look like to you? What exactly are you being denied in terms of self-expression or inclusion?

    Treeniks,

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  • imogen_underscore,
    @imogen_underscore@hexbear.net avatar

    its ok to vilify straightness hope this helps. you are not oppressed in any way for being straight lmao. this is the “complaining about anti-white racism” of misunderstanding sexuality power dynamics. queer people are telling you to shut up and you’re doubling down on your chauvinism, consider touch-grass you suck!

    captain_aggravated,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yeah and that behavior is how the queer community loses straight allies.

    When you require people to vote in your favor for your personal safety and survival, maybe don’t throw shit in their face. At some point they’ll say “fuck it, you’re on your own.”

    davel, (edited )
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the Straight moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Gays’ great stumbling block in their stride toward freedom is not the Super Straight or the Super Happy Fun American, but the Straight moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes they can set the timetable for another person’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Gay to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

    — Martin Luther Queen Jr., probably

    FunkyStuff,

    If you never leave the online world then the only oppression you can know is being called mean words. That’s the only way these people can justify what they’re saying. Dang, someone called you a cissy and you don’t get a little ‘straight’ title in a game? Awesome! Hope this brutal oppression keeps going!

    happybadger,
    @happybadger@hexbear.net avatar

    Follow-up question: Are you literally a baby in a diaper?

    Dirt_Owl,

    The whole system is built around you being straight, idiot. You aren’t oppressed.

    seliaste, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
    @seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I had not heard of the game, bought it and it’s awesome. Spent my whole afternoon playing it

    fckreddit, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    I love how a lot of anti-wokes think that if there is any mention of lgbt terms, the game is just woke.

    Fizz, do games w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    Look at the steam discussion fourm on that game its a cess put of bitter chuds complaining about this update.

    Kilometers_OBrien, do games w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    Shame on those damn straights for choosing to be attracted to their opposing sex.

    Let’s disrespect them because of their inferiority.

    (Can you see how toxic and weird that sounds?)

    kogasa,
    @kogasa@programming.dev avatar

    Disrespecting fragile cretins who need to pandered to at all times

    Kilometers_OBrien,

    Be honest, that sounds weird.

    kogasa,
    @kogasa@programming.dev avatar

    No, I stand by it. People who cry about straight representation are goblins at best. That’s who’s being mocked, not straight people.

    Stovetop,

    In a world that is controlled almost entirely by heteronormativity, policing straight representation in a queer-friendly game made by a queer developer does not seem like an equivalent situation at all.

    surewhynotlem,

    How is providing an additional inclusive option disrespectful?

    Is it that you don’t like the price? That’s just capitalism. More demand equals higher prices.

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please,

    Alternatively: people have gone out of their way to foster a space where LGBTQIA+ people feel comfortable. In a world full of heteronormativity, this is a bubble where they can truly be themselves. It’s one of the few places where a gay dude can flirt with another dude, without the fear of being punched in the mouth just for being gay.

    And then a straight guy walks into the gay bar, and starts a fight when another dude tries to flirt with him. He starts ranting about how it’s not okay to assume he’s gay, and that he feels oppressed for being straight. He wants the heteronormativity to extend even into LGBTQIA+ spaces, despite the fact that he could go to literally any other bar in town and not have this issue. Instead, he has chosen to make a scene at the gay bar, because he’s upset it’s a gay bar.

    bassomitron, do games w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    Straight representation? Lol, what? Like every major branching choice RPG with romance options offers plenty of hetero choices (Witcher, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Baldurs Gate, Cyberpunk 2077, etc). Even in Veilguard, the first AAA game I’ve played that offers nonbinary choices, still has plenty of hetero representation. Culture wars are so god damn exhausting and unwinnable.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan,
    @inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

    These are the same people mad at “woke” games for not having white charcters. Their enormous amount of privliage has made them utterly blind to history or context.

    I hate it here. 🙃

    TheVelvetGentleman, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    Based take from PC Gamer. Love to see it.

    RageAgainstTheRich, do games w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    Huh, suddenly the crying straight gamers care about representation… 🤔

    Tudsamfa,
    @Tudsamfa@lemmy.world avatar

    Apart from them straights not being a Monolith, I feel there is a difference between not being represented and being actively excluded. You know, one is bad and one is worse.

    You can and should leave a “Need a ____ tag” at the forum then. Don’t know why the article is so snarky about that, the poster of that seemed reasonable enough on the first 2 pages.

    Sanctus, do games w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Lol, the parenthesis around it. That was a good hit.

    Passerby6497,

    Quotation marks?

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Oops lol

    Fiivemacs, (edited ) do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    K…I’m sure nobody cares.

    Edit…Ugg…it’s very annoying and very unhealthy when people make it their entire persona, online or not. Added to the list.

    Astertheprince,

    You cared enough to reply :)

    Also thank you, I will continue to be openly trans and proud of it, I love making bigots squirm.

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    K…I’m sure nobody cares.

    Well you’re objectively wrong, since clearly the one guy complaining cared enough to actually complain about it.

    Kolanaki, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Wait… This is an entire game? I’ve seen memes of it and I thought it was about an update to Animal Crossing.

    Lumu,
    @Lumu@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    It’s very fun, feels like a return to simple web chatroom type games that I’ve really been longing for. It’s real enjoyable if the idea of casual fishing with some random people seems appealing to you!

    Boiglenoight, do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you

    Games have a large male audience and many of those males are white. When new games focus on protagonists and issues that do not resonate with white males, this aggravates the audience and it only takes a few vocal few to whip the group into toxic online behavior.

    Metaphor is set in a fantasy world populated by Japanese. The characters may seem to be of a multiracial society, but it’s understood that this is not a western game but an eastern one through a western lens. It could have the most radical political discourse but as players we quietly accept that this is a foreign story and not one that reflects on western issues and prejudices.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    The opening moments of the story are about intense racism over the most minute differences.

    RizzRustbolt, do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you

    Well, there’s politics… and there’s politics.

    millie, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

    Spam G in support.

    Meow meow meow.

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