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damnson, do games w How Cyberpunk 2077 clawed its way back from disaster to complete one of the greatest redemption arcs in gaming history

Was fine in the beginning, nerds just love to complain

echo64,

I don’t even have to post gifs of how damn broken it was at launch, you already know them, you can see them playing in your brain space right now.

Primarily0617, (edited )

skyrim also had funny bugs at launch but people only care about the majority of bugs when they've already decided game bad

TigrisMorte,

It was only broken on console. PC was never broken. The issues PC had were all minor and were mostly addressed very quickly.

dan1101, (edited )

It’s weird how much people’s experience varied. There are enough people saying it was very broken and enough that say it was fine that I believe both groups. Hopefully someone figures out what it is about people’s machines, play styles, or something else that gave such different experiences.

I waited until early this year to play and it was an awesome experience.

FabioTheNewOrder,

To me for example was always fine. I got it on launch day and with my PC I experienced very minor issues and almost no crash (maybe one if I remember correctly) and, even if it wasn’t the game CD Project Red marketing department had led us to believe, it was a nice and enjoyable experience for me.

I mount an i9-9900k with an Asus motherboard and a 3070 dual fan, I don’t recall the precise model right now; not a fancy build as I use a very old case and air cooling, but it gets the job done for a 1440 experience at circa 45 FPS.

Now I’m curious to test this 2.0 patch, I’m watching my brother playing on his PC right now and, with a 1070, he’s still getting good performances and the game mechanics look nice! The skill trees are really interesting, I can’t wait to try it out myself!

echo64,

It was so broken that sony had to remove it from sale. This isn’t a “we don’t know the situation” thing. This is well documented.

Chozo,

Yeah, it really depended on what platform you played it on. I played on Stadia, and while it was buggy, it was at least stable. No crashing, but a lot of broken quest lines and T-posing NPCs. But PS4/Xbox One players had a lot of issues because the hardware just couldn't handle the game.

Poor decision-making from CDPR's execs on that one. They should've just cancelled the older-gen versions of the game, but instead they wanted to rush it out the door to take advantage of the new Covid market, and because a lot of people were still having trouble getting their hands on PS5s/Xbox Series systems. So they got absolutely shafted, unfortunately.

stopthatgirl7,
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curiousaur, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

I’ve been waiting for it to get to this point to even buy it.

sugar_in_your_tea, (edited )

Same. Maybe I’ll get it once 2.0 launches. Maybe. I’ll wait for reviews.

optissima,
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Wait for them to iron out whatever kinks again, wait for 2.1/2.02

Callendor, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

For a new player. How long into the game until the expansion starts?

funkless_eck,

played the OG version on release. there is a “point of no return” message for the end of the game. If you complete game or save after that point and reopen that save you’re locked into that ending based on what you did prior to crossing the point of no return.

so the playable sections all come before this — so if you missed something after completing you can reload your “Meet [Person] At Embers Bar” save (the point of no return) — go do it with your endgame character and then optionally revisit the final section if you like.

from what I gather on loading up an old save after this patch you’ll have to re spec your character and may have missed minor things, but can start all the new content from your …Embers save.

From a new player perspective you can choose to do the DLC or the vanilla game at any order or at any point- gated by your character level and progression, similar to how Fallout DLC works.

Callendor,

Great answer. Thank you !

XbSuper, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

Cool, maybe I’ll actually pick this up next time it’s on sale (and includes the dlc).

derin, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'
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Nah - I think I’ll enjoy it on my old character, if that’s all right with them.

Crazy to think I’d just spend another 100 hours redoing missions and revisiting old content for new progression systems.

I’m happy the game is finally finished, but it’s kind of insulting to tell us to go back and “play it all again, it’s finally ready”.

Rampsquatch,

I fail to see the insult, it’s not like they’re going to call you names if you don’t do what they recommend.

Cethin,

I think you’re taking this wrong. They’re saying you can play it all again and the experience will be somewhat different with the new systems. They are saying you’re a loser if you don’t or whatever. Basically, they’re saying the update effects the existing game too, not just the DLC.

nehal3m, (edited )

Maybe it’s because they view playing the game differently than you do. Personally I see it as a game you can ‘run’, sort of like a rogue-like. There’s different ways to execute missions, a few different ways to interact and varied builds for a character. I’ve played the game twice now, once as a corpo gun slinger and once as a street kid hacker. For this update I’m doing a nomad ninja.

InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w I've tested Nvidia's latest ray tracing magic in Cyberpunk 2077 and it's a no-brainer: at worst it's just better-looking, at best it's that and a whole lot more performance
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Did they ever add player reflections?
It’s so annoying waking around all these shiny surfaces, every light bouncing just right, yet be a complete ghost.

McScience,

Yeah, anything with Ray tracing will have player reflections. You usually don’t see them because they’re faking ray tracing by baking the light bounces when the scene first loads

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, anything with Ray tracing will have player reflections.

Cyberpunk doesn’t/didn’t by default though.
Last I checked you could kind of enable them in a config file, but the model used doesn’t have a head so your reflections are that of a headless V.

Unless they fixed it, you were either a ghost/vampire or a headless chicken.
Pretty jank when you carry a corpse and the dead guy you carry has this perfect reflection in glass panes and puddles or whatnot but you’re just inexistant.

Buddahriffic,

You can have missing objects with real ray tracing. Like the player object itself generally doesn’t need to be rendered so it might not even be added to the scene. Unless the player is looking down. If their arms are holding a gun or reloading, it might just be disembodied arms if you could move the camera to see it from another angle.

Or, different game, but in GT7, the ray tracing doesn’t include vehicles’ self reflections. Which is probably an optimization because every reflection ray trivially intersects with the object it is reflecting from, so it makes sense to skip the reflecting object, but then you miss cases where it should be reflecting another part of itself.

Whirlybird,

Yeah, anything with Ray tracing will have player reflections.

Not true, ray tracing isn’t a “everything all the time” thing.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

It’s because there’s no player model to reflect.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
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Yea I know but it’s still a bit lame.
You can enable an option to add the first person player model to Ray tracing, but it doesn’t have a head (on purpose so it didn’t clip in the first person camera), so you have decapitated reflections.
Same reason the player shadows are janky, first person models are often like that. You gotta adjust it so it looks good in first person but then it’s all weird in third person.
There’s technically a third person model, but it’s probably not animated, so… yea maybe some day.

paulcdb, do games w This charming magic zoo game is all about keeping misbehaving critters in check long enough to help them

So what is the game made in?

I’m not a huge gamer anyway, but I’m not buying anymore games unless they’re made using Open Source tools!

Dr_Cog,
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Remember that the free version of Unity is completely free and no money gets sent to Unity. Boycotting all Unity games only hurts the devs, except when you know the game was made with a Pro version

paulcdb,

And? Sometimes tough choices have to be made to stand up for the greater good!

If devs realise people don’t want to support unity, and enough people vote with there wallets, they move to something else. Yes it might suck for some devs who can’t/won’t move but then thats there choice, just like it’s my choice to say screw unity!

Years ago people fought wars for this thing called ‘freedom’ but then come technology and it’s now seems a thing of legends only a select few have! 😳😎

Chev, (edited ) do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

In best case, I will play the game after the first patch after 2.0 + PL. Good that I’m still in my first playthrough in Baldurs Gate 3. So if the patch comes around the weekend of the 6th of October, I should be fine.

Chev, do games w I've tested Nvidia's latest ray tracing magic in Cyberpunk 2077 and it's a no-brainer: at worst it's just better-looking, at best it's that and a whole lot more performance

How is the performance getting better (more FPS) when you use the GPU even more?

conciselyverbose,

They say it's because you don't have to do the same denoise with the new algorithm.

BruceTwarzen,

Just buy a 4090, easy

Psythik,

I already did but Cyberpunk is still boring. What am I doing wrong?

undeffeined,

Not the game for you?

Psythik,

You’re probably right. I like RPGs and I love science fiction, but for some reason I just can’t get into Cyberpunk. You’d think I’d enjoy it but nope. The story just doesn’t captivate me and there isn’t much to do outside of the campaign, so…

Reddit_Is_Trash,

From my understanding, this is an optimized method of raytracing. We could expect to see better looks and better performance with each iteration of raytracing. Especially since it’s a relatively new technology for games.

redcalcium,

The new AI-based denoiser probably uses the tensor cores which is severely underutilized on gaming, thus netting extra performance seemingly out of thin air. One of the main criticism of the new Nvidia cards was how much silicon area they use for those RT and AI cores which could’ve been used to improve performance of traditional rendering had Nvidia used the area for standard GPU cores instead. Now it seems Nvidia finally have more ways to utilize those silicon for gaming, though it’s not clear whether they’re finally fully utilized yet (there were reports about how the tensor cores only have 1% utilization even with DLSS frame generation turned on).

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

If they did use that space for raster AMD would be toast right now.

BudgetBandit, do games w I've tested Nvidia's latest ray tracing magic in Cyberpunk 2077 and it's a no-brainer: at worst it's just better-looking, at best it's that and a whole lot more performance

I read the title as „it does what it says and makes the game run better“ - am I wrong?

Delphia,

I read the article and thats pretty much the case.

Provided you buy Nvidia.

darkeox,

That's because they imply DLSS 3.5 usage. Which isn't too unfair but a bit misleading.

spankinspinach, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

I’m so excited to play this on PS5. Survived a 50 hours playthrough on PS4, liked the story enough but almost purely ground my way through due to shitty performance. This time I wanna just enjoy it as it was meant to be played :)

VentraSqwal, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

Anyone have a tl;Dr on the police and vehicle revamps?

7355608,

Cops are dangerous now, maxtac doubly so, and you can shoot out of cars while driving now.

applebusch,

So they’re not just going to materialize out of thin air anymore?

Redredme,

Picard to maxtac:

ENERGISE

(tbf It never really bothered me, cyberpunk is one of my favourite games ever. The story, the voice acting the goofy and scary side missions. For me the jesus pose and the teleporting cops where forgivable.)

Why9,

I’ve tried to keep my spoilers to a minimum, but from what I’ve read, MAXTAC has their own siren. At 5* wanted level, when you hear their siren, a little bit of poo will come out.

Police are apparently relentless too - at all wanted levels. Oh, and straying into a gang’s territory with police on your tail can lead to interesting results lol.

I seriously can’t wait! I love netrunning, now I can be the netrunning demon everyone fears!

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

The game has been out for three years. What is there to spoil?

Why9,

I’m referring to the spoilers for the changes incoming in update 2.0.

Not everyone likes to read what’s changed and want to experience it first hand. MAXTAC was not in the base game and is a huge part of the consequences of your actions on the street.

NotAPenguin, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

Finally coming out of early access!

llii,

Now I only need to wait until the game is <= 20 € on disc.

vlad76, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'
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I’m looking forward to playing it again. After BG3. And in between Tarkov. After Starfield. I guess by that point Elden Ring DLC might be out. Also need to play RE4 remaster. . Also didn’t a Harry Potter game come out recently? Also Atomic Heart had a DLC. Still need to try Hell Let Loose…

Maybe one day.

123,

Also

VentraSqwal,

Ya I’ll probably bump it up ahead on the list because I loved the game so much. But I know what you mean, I’m way behind on games. I just beat the FF7 Remake and am in the middle of Horizon Zero Dawn (ya, the first one).

Redredme,

You forgot about armoured core 6. Which, you just must play, especially with that backlog.

bbigras,

You forgot about armoured core 6. Which, you just must play, especially with that backlog.

I suck at souls games but I like robots. Should I still give it a try?

Breezy,

Yes, its not a souls game anyways, just a hard mech game. Which is kinda the staple for mech games.

Also though you can suck at soul like games but still enjoy them. Honestly the first step into getting good is figuring out which type of cheese you prefer. Ive always been partial to big sticks turning enemies into pancakes. It works on most games that are similar. Havent found a weapon to do so in lie of p yet, but thats a good thing for me since it changed my play style.

bbigras,

Thanks!

PoetSII,

Harry Potter and Starfield ain’t worth your time mate

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Harry Potter probably not. But I’ll try Starfield.

samus12345,
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If you’re a fan, I’d say the beginning when you’re in Hogwarts and Hogsmeade is worth playing. But as soon as the plot takes you south, just stop playing.

Starfield is…a Bethesda game, no doubt about that. You’ll probably like it okay if you like their games, just don’t expect to be impressed or anything like that.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Bethesda games are a skeleton for mods for me, so I’ll pick it up after the modding scene matures.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If someone has the time and resources, they could make a really good game out of it.

rip_art_bell,
@rip_art_bell@lemmy.world avatar

BG3 is amazing

goodhunter, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

I have waited till the release to play it. It’s still in its wrap. Is now the definitive moment finally? Do I get the DLC right now, or is that for later?

Retrograde,
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  • goodhunter,

    I got it for ps4, but rocking a ps5 now. That should be upgradedable if I’m not mistaken

    spankinspinach,

    You should be able to download a free PS5 version when you load it up

    Iusedtobeanadventurer,

    From what I understand you want to play the DLC after you finished the main game

    dudewitbow,

    Doesnt the dlc unlock a new alternative ending?

    Iusedtobeanadventurer,

    Maybe so! I had not heard that. So perhaps the best route is to play through a second time, with the update 2.0 patch and dlc, and play the dlc storyline after the main story has concluded.

    EtzBetz,

    I’ve heard this as well from a German game magazine reporting

    gaylord_fartmaster, (edited )

    So you bought the game on release and never played it because it turned out to be a broken unfinished mess, and now, without having played it again, you’re asking if you should dump even more money into it?

    Come on dude.

    goodhunter,

    If it’s good, then yes.

    Gold_E_Lox,

    is this the average consumer?

    goodhunter,

    The downvotes, the jokes, I find it immature. Seems like lemmy turned out to be to have become toxic with the Reddit refugees.

    Look, I’m looking forward on playing the game ever since release. I still respect cd project for what they have done with Witcher 3. I simply waited to play the game as my time is sparse nowadays and I have to chose consciously how I spent it. If the game gives me dozens of hours of a great time, I see no problem in spending the cash.

    samus12345,
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    theneverfox,
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    I think it’s a different story - I’d play the base game first

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