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arc, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

The same Hasbro that tried to make a land grab for all D&D derivative content by changing their Open Game License to grant them irrevocable, perpetual rights to it. This is not a nice company as they demonstrate time and again.

So maybe it’s time the RPG community stopped thinking Hasbro are ever going to change, mourn for what D&D has become, but move onto something else.

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

This is mostly a USA problem. :) There are so many great pnp systems out there. But there will be a learning curve.

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

And if one aren’t in the mood to learn something completely new, theres always Pathfinder.

reluctantpornaccount,

Yeah Pathfinder 2e is good. It’s more crunchy than 5e, but that also means there are rules for most situations that come up. I like the 3 action system, much better than the old, “main action, swift action, move action, move- equivalent action” thing the old version had going on.

jackoneill,

I have a group of friends, half in same town as me, half on the other side of the country, that get together once a week ion discord and play dnd via a self hosted foundry virtual tabletop docker. We used to play 5e but we decided to try out pathfinder 2e to see if we liked it and we haven’t gone back, pathfinder is fantastic. The flexibility with the actions makes it feel like you always get a chance to do something and you aren’t just wasting your turn when you are getting into position or whatever. Feels close enough to 5e that most of your intuition will be pretty close, just use a different website to look shit up. Highly recommend pathfinder!

ctobrien84,

What? We don’t have a plethora of other games here in the US? I’ll have to remind the owners of all those shops that those hundreds of other games they’re selling currently only exist outside of the US. How embarrassing for us…

Patches,

The OGL License happened after Larian teamed up with Hasbro to make Baldur’s Gate 3. Thankfully Larian is still independent so it can continue on to make better RPGs without Hasbro.

NotMyOldRedditName,

Thankfully Larian is still independent

Was getting worried there and about to Google more on the subject. Happy to hear that.

tvarog_smetana,

If you haven’t played it, Divinity Original Sin 2 is a fantastic Larian-made RPG that uses a non-D&D system.

NotMyOldRedditName,

I have played it and really enjoyed it.

I wouldn’t have been so excited about bg3 otherwise.

papertowels,
KeenFlame, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

But what about the poor CEOs? Did they get their Christmas bonus? Think of the children!!

grayman,

Thank you! The CEOs’ children need Maseratis, boarding school, college, jet fuel to pedo islands, and so many other necessities! We can’t let them suffer!

pineapplelover, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

Somebody needs to make a company shit list so I can avoid them. I got EA, Hasbro, Nestle so far.

uranibaba,

Create a github repo, put eveey company in the readme

pineapplelover,

Good idea. I may get on it if there isn’t one already

uranibaba,

Not that I know of. Just thought of if because I have seen similar uses before. GitHub has GitHub pages, if you want to create a website.

Patches,

Good luck avoiding most of them. They own everything.

Nestle doesn’t just make Chocolate…

unreasonabro,

spoiler alert though, it’s literally everybody. because everyone else is doing it, it’s not possible to survive as a business in a competitive space without doing, for lack of a better word, the devil’s work. It will take a major social disruption to change this, but it won’t happen in an organized fashion because we as a species are pathetic. The disruption will be the end of the world - North America cracking down the middle due to all the fracking, the Greenland glacier sliding into the ocean all at a go, something like that. FAFO endgame shit, due any minute now anyway.

Patches,

Okay while I agree it’s everyone.

It is absolutely possible for a single corporation to not be the shittiest possible person in existence. They just can’t be public.

The stock market is the worst thing to ever happen to this country.

jandar_fett,

The stock market is the worst thing to ever happen to this world. FTFY

The_Lurker,

One solution is to support government regulation of these industries. Deregulation is the cause of much of this crap.

rottingleaf,

Well, if you deregulate patents and copyright (that is, abolish them, with only trademark laws remaining), then I’d expect only positive results.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly its kind of extremely crumby that hasbro owns the wizards

The DnD games from the 90s on steam went up in price because of the success of BG3 they are now on sale forbtheir old price lol

abbotsbury,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Oof, glad I got all the Infinity Engine games in a Humble Bundle before BG3 released

chitak166,

All of them.

ninekeysdown,
@ninekeysdown@lemmy.world avatar

Samsung, Ubisoft, Epic, Chiquita, Dole, Apple, …

Pretty much any big corp is gonna be really shitty…

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Almost as if capitalism would mean “profits over humanity”. I am shocked.

ninekeysdown,
@ninekeysdown@lemmy.world avatar

As am I! Just completely shocked!! And OUTRAGED!! /s

Fedizen,

list of the companies that arent garbage might be shorter

And009,

A little too short

unreasonabro, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

stop whoring yourselves to these evil fuckups

Destraight, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

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  • thorbot,

    why Do pEoPlEs LiVeLihOoDs mAtTeR if my GaEm WoRkS

    Destraight,

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  • thorbot,

    shut the fuck up already

    Destraight,

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  • thorbot,

    “I win the argument” … are you fucking 9 years old? Jesus Christ

    ophy,

    He’s not talking about Larian, he’s talking aboutbthe actual D&D team at Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast. Hasbro got a new CEO last year and the way they’ve been operating certain business units like WotC has changed dramatically, coupled with massive layoffs across many Hasbro subsidiaries. All he’s saying is the DnD team at WotC now is completely different to the one that Larian knew as they developed BG3.

    thorbot, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

    CEO is aptly named, at least.

    naticus,

    I kept trying to figure out the joke about the name Swen Vincke and was failing. Cocks. It was right there in front of me everyone. It was Cocks.

    MalachaiConstant,

    Hasbro CEO Chris Cocks, for those of us who can’t help but read comments before reading articles

    modus, do games w This fan-made HD PC port of Zelda: Link's Awakening is so cool I can't believe Nintendo hasn't taken it down yet

    I created a torrent file for this game. Does anyone know a good place to post it?

    astanix, do games w This fan-made HD PC port of Zelda: Link's Awakening is so cool I can't believe Nintendo hasn't taken it down yet. **GUYS GUESS WHAT!**

    Shocked Pikachu face.

    verdantbanana, do games w This fan-made HD PC port of Zelda: Link's Awakening is so cool I can't believe Nintendo hasn't taken it down yet

    pretty gone as of this moment

    anyone got a new link

    approxamatrix,

    Nah, you’ll have to wait until the next Zelda game comes out.

    sbv, do gaming w Teenage Grand Theft Auto 6 hacker given an indefinite sentence in a secure hospital due to his 'intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible'

    Following an assessment by a psychiatrist, however, the judge in the case determined that Kurtaj was unfit to stand trial, and so the jury was asked only to determine if he had actually committed the hacks, but not whether it was done with criminal intent.

    I’m curious what “unfit” means here.

    Whiskeyomega, do gaming w Teenage Grand Theft Auto 6 hacker given an indefinite sentence in a secure hospital due to his 'intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible'
    @Whiskeyomega@kbin.social avatar

    As always with the Crown Prosecution service in the UK they love to bully and make an example of Autistic people. Only added by corporation running the court system, The CPS' Prosecution barristers are known to enjoy a life of luxury and gifts from them but you cant touch any of it.

    anon2481, do gaming w Teenage Grand Theft Auto 6 hacker given an indefinite sentence in a secure hospital due to his 'intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible'

    His skills are crazy impressive. I wish there were some way to point it toward a productive path.

    Jaysyn, (edited ) do gaming w Teenage Grand Theft Auto 6 hacker given an indefinite sentence in a secure hospital due to his 'intent to return to cybercrime as soon as possible'
    @Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

    The UK is perma-imprisoning their subjects for futurecrime and that is dystopian as hell.

    AnneBonny, do games w Steam keeps on winning

    Last year, I pointed out how many big publishers came crawlin’ back to Steam after trying their own things: EA, Activision, Microsoft. This year, for the first time ever, two Blizzard games released on Steam: Overwatch and Diablo 4.

    Why is it so hard for companies to build a game launcher that doesn’t suck? Is it just a lowest bidder situation?

    Nachorella,

    I think it’s just priorities, those other companies weren’t interested in making a launcher, they were interested in tying their customers into their eco system.

    Steam started out like that in appearance at least, nobody really wanted it and it was kind of forced on you if you wanted to play HL2 but since Valve seemed to understand the value in a platform like steam and actually work at making it good it became pretty good.

    At this point it’s actually kind of hard to fully appreciate how much work has gone into steam. Not just the basic stuff like chat and forums and a store with a functioning search, or the banal stuff like inventories and trading cards and points I still don’t understand, but also the stuff most people don’t see like all the stuff for developers launching a game on steam and managing sales and keys and betas. Not to mention all the experiments they’ve done along the way to try and figure out what the best way forward is.

    Steam is kind of a huge undertaking and unless a company is really invested in competing with it they’re simply not going to be able to.

    SnotFlickerman,
    @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    they were interested in tying their customers into their eco system.

    Data, they were also interested in that sweet, sweet, data harvesting. Previously only Valve was grabbing all that via Steam.

    NekkoDroid,
    @NekkoDroid@programming.dev avatar

    IMO my favorite launcher to use out of all is probably Battle.net, even over Steam. This is probably mostly because Steam is terrible unresponsive and its startup is still kinda ass (I just tested the start and noticed its 3 fucking loading screens: Verifying installtion, Logging in and finally loading the page. All as separate windows).

    wildginger,

    Wow. Ive never heard someone say something positive about battle net

    stolid_agnostic,

    If your goal was only to make a good launcher, it would be easy. If your goal is a lot of DRM shenanigans as if we were still in 1998, it’s really hard.

    echo64, do games w Steam keeps on winning

    I know everyone loves Valve, but it feels super weird to be celebrating a monopoly so much and so ferociously. (I know Steam isn’t a technical monopoly. We don’t need to have that discussion)

    Gaben is old, and he’s gonna retire. It’ll likely be a lot sooner than anyone here is comfortable with. When Valve gets sold, or even when gaben isn’t in total control anymore, things are going to start changing, and there isn’t going to be a healthy, diverse marketplace to soften that.

    There is a very good chance that the PC platform will be a really horrible place because of the lack of consumer choice in which they can purchase and play games.

    fsxylo,

    Steams biggest competition isn’t another launcher, it’s piracy. Gabe is wise enough to know that, if the next guy to take over is a chode they’ll learn the hard way.

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