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Metal_Zealot, do games w I'm so glad I waited nearly 3 years to play Cyberpunk 2077, but I dread the fact that this is our new normal
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

You’re not buying a triple A game anymore. You’re buying the idea of the game they want to sell you, and hoping they deliver.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s just an expensive early access.

iforgotmyinstance, do games w I'm so glad I waited nearly 3 years to play Cyberpunk 2077, but I dread the fact that this is our new normal

They just added driving combat, which was in the launch trailer.

NegativeLookBehind, (edited ) do games w I'm so glad I waited nearly 3 years to play Cyberpunk 2077, but I dread the fact that this is our new normal
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Cyberpunk is the soul sole reason I don’t preorder games anymore. Hype be damned.

ThugJesus,

No man’s sky for me. Both are amazing games at current stage but with shit releases.

metaStatic,

if you where hyped for NMS release it still isn't the game you where sold and never will be.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Same for cyberpunk

caseofthematts,

My experience with people who have played Cyberpunk is being told that if I don’t expect it to be the game they advertised it was going to be, that its great.

Which makes no sense to me.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Thank you for being a logical person.

Zorque,

It's a great time waster, but as far as interesting and engaging gameplay? I'm pretty sure minesweeper still has it beat in that department.

ThugJesus,

You are 100% correct.

Massada42,

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  • Knusper,

    If I remember correctly, it got hyped as the procedural generation not following the usual formulaic approach, where ‘new’ species are created by just propping tusk C onto body shape F etc…

    RaivoKulli,

    It’s basically a meme at this point to link to this, but Crowbcat got you covered

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=omyoJ7onNrg

    metaStatic,

    The Australia tax is why I don't buy games at all, much less pre-pay for the ones I might want.

    secondaccountlemmy,

    soul reason

    *sole

    NegativeLookBehind,
    @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

    Ha, yes. Thanks for the correction.

    Shgrizz,

    Hype is literally the only thing you miss out on by not playing games on release. If you get used to existing 3 years behind the release schedule, your gaming experience is vastly improved.

    reksas, do gaming w Elon Musk demanded a cameo in Cyberpunk 2077 while wielding a 200 year old gun: "I was armed but not dangerous"

    If they ended up adding him him in any way, he should be just removed. That piece of shit parasite shouldnt get any recognition anywhere. Not even negative.

    Joker,

    What if they turned him into a drooling hobo or cyber psycho who fried his brain with a homemade implant? I could be down with that. If not, I’m counting on a mod to remove his ass.

    apotheotic,

    Homeless folk are victims of a system(generally), he doesn’t deserve to be portrayed that way

    Joker,

    He would be the victim of his implant.

    apotheotic,

    I’m down with that bit for sure - would prefer the cyber psycho or just finding him as a corpse with a letter or something and some environmental storytelling. Nothing too high effort, mind. But it’d be nice to at least virtually know he fucked himself

    reksas,

    Any mention will also preserve his name which he doesnt deserve.

    DrQuint, (edited ) do games w Stadia's death spiral, according to the Google employee in charge of mopping up after its murder

    I will never, ever, understand why Stadia was something thay had to be “ported into” at such high cost. Specially for games that were ALREADY working on Linux. Like, what the fuck was the hold up. I read up stories that it was basically like porting to a fourth console and that just sounded outrageously stupid in my head.

    Whatever tech stack they had, they could have made it way more profitable by making it generic windows boxes that partially run your library elsewhere. I dunno if there’s some hubris or some licensing bullshit behind it, but fact is, if I want to do this on GeForce Now, I can do it, no questions asked, and as the costumer, that’s the beginning and end of my concerns.

    redcalcium, (edited )

    Google engineers always choose the hardest route to solve problems. Why wouldn’t they? If your products are going to be shutdown in a few years anyway, might as well have a glowing resume from working on those products (resume-driven development).

    Think about it, every time Google made a product with sensible tech stacks, those products were actually started outside Google and later bought by Google (Android, YouTube, etc). If Google made Android from scratch, there is no way they’ll use java and Linux, they’ll invent a new language and made their own kernel instead (just like fuchsia os which might be canned soon).

    anemomylos,
    @anemomylos@kbin.social avatar
    • Kotlin: "are you talking to me?"
    hesusingthespiritbomb,

    Kotlin was made by Jetbrains and later adopted by Google.

    sznio,

    But Kotlin is actually an improvement over Java.

    Golang thoooooo

    atocci,

    TIL Fuchsia hasn't been killed quite yet.

    smeg,

    Does it actually even exist? I feel like I’ve been getting whispered rumours about it for years and years, but never anything sold!

    atocci,

    Yes! Nest Hub devices run it

    smeg,

    Oh wow, I’ll have to have a read up

    merc,
    @merc@sh.itjust.works avatar

    might as well have a glowing resume from working on those products (resume-driven development).

    This is so true. Getting promoted requires showing impact. If you use off-the-shelf tools (that happen to be easily maintainable) that’s not an impressive impact. If you invent a new language (and make up a convincing reason it was necessary) and so-on, that’s really impressive and you can get promoted. The minefield you leave behind that makes maintaining your solution so difficult is just another opportunity for someone else to get promoted.

    Zeth0s, (edited )

    Only Microsoft can run decently windows in a decently big data centers. Because they can tweak it, as they do for Xbox os as well. For everyone else scaling windows server VMs or containers is a pain, because windows is a bad, poorly optimized, resources-hungry OS developed with main goal to make hardware obsolete every 3-5 years.

    I don’t know what nvidia is doing, but when I use it at my friends’ places, lags are painful.

    Linux was the right call in theory, in practice gaming industry is pretty broken on the PC side with its lock on windows, as we see on every new AAA port… Let’s hope valve can save it, but I doubt.

    smeg,

    I don’t think the people downvoting you have ever experienced the pain of dealing with Windows in a cloud environment

    Pxtl, (edited )
    @Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

    No, we’re downvoting because of conspiracy theories about planned obsolescense.

    Yes, it’s disappointing how hardware requirements climb for minimal appreciable improvement, but Hanlon’s Razor applies.

    Zeth0s, (edited )

    It is not a conspiracy though. Planned obsolescence is a well known real thing. There is a reason unix computers last on average longer than windows computers, and Linux is the stereotypical OS for old pcs.

    If people are downvoting for this, they should learn how computers and operating systems work

    Zeth0s, (edited )

    Don’t worry, I was expecting the downvotes. This place is full of angry windows fan boys that believe they are tech expert because they watch ltt and can install a skyrim mod. Less than reddit luckily

    Astroturfed,

    The thing was clearly designed to force you into paying a subscription fee. You can’t let people have something they could possibly easily use and play games that aren’t on your subscription if your entire purpose is to milk a monthly subscription from the users. Google, fuck you capitalism woohoo.

    canis_majoris, do games w Stadia's death spiral, according to the Google employee in charge of mopping up after its murder
    @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

    One of the main issues with Stadia is that they didn’t even do the basics. I saw basically no marketing, and on top of that, I heard all kinds of rumors about the business model that were entirely false. They made no effort to combat the misinformation. It was never the case that you literally had to purchase the game on top of the subscription fees, but that was like the number one issue brought up in every discussion.

    Facebones,

    It’s been how long now? TIL that was false. 🤷

    canis_majoris,
    @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

    I know, right? Service has been down almost an entire year.

    Facebones,

    The “pay for sub then buy games on top of that” was 100% how I heard it worked and NEVER heard anything different from anywhere.

    That’s kinda nuts.

    conciselyverbose,

    It was basically true.

    There was a bad experience version you could use without a subscription to games you purchased outright, and they included "free" games with your subscription, but to get a reasonable experience you had to pay for both.

    Chozo,

    The subscription was only necessary if you wanted to play in 4K or wanted "free" monthly games. Everything else worked just fine without the sub, with no change to performance.

    conciselyverbose,

    The subscription was absolutely required for performance not to be a complete dumpster fire.

    The free tier wasn't mediocre. It was unplayable.

    HarkMahlberg, (edited )
    @HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

    From everything I can see, you did have to buy games on Stadia. They would give you a free game a month, but if that wasn't the game you wanted to play, you had to buy it. The base version of Stadia was free, but the Pro version gave you a discount on games - it did not make them free.

    This is the official support forum and there are many Q&A's about purchasing games:

    https://community.stadia.com/t5/Payments-Billing/Can-t-buy-games-in-the-Store-OR-HDT-01/m-p/52482

    Got my Stadia Pro account with a credit card...

    ... If you have an Android device, you can also try via the Stadia app to purchase games (once purchased, you can play them everywhere, on mobile, TV or PC).

    Stamau123,

    So it wasn’t bullshit? Well in the end the environment was confusing, as thus it died

    conciselyverbose,

    The "wrong" part was that you could theoretically play games you owned without the subscription active.

    But it was downgraded heavily enough that it wasn't really worth doing.

    Astroturfed,

    I couldn’t figure out how to do anything with one without paying the subscription. The interface was horrible and clearly designed to force you into subscribing before you could even use the thing.

    Molecular0079,

    It was never the case that you literally had to purchase the game on top of the subscription fees

    It depends on the game. There were a bunch of games under “Stadia Play” that came along with the subscription, GamePass style. And then there were games you had to outright purchase.

    Trihilis,

    The main problem with stadia was Google. I knew it was doomed from the start and that’s why I never bothered with it. I actually know a lot of people that didn’t bother with it because it was from Google. It’s basically a self fulfilling prophecy at this point that most of their shit ends up on the Google graveyard.

    A lot of people actually don’t trust Google anymore since they’ve already been screwed over many times by them.

    infamous_trade, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

    nice argument lol

    stevedidWHAT,
    @stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

    Who needs logic and rhetoric when you have 💰

    Lord knows there’s enough content creators now to self sustain shit games and businesses for all of time regardless of what genpop is interested in

    PeterPoopshit, (edited ) do games w Legend has spent years making Portal for the N64 and by Gaben he's done it

    Nintendo better not send their lawyers after this guy.

    refurbishedrefurbisher,

    Seeing as there’s zero Nintendo IP being used, I find that unlikely. The only company that would have any standing to go after him is Valve, and they historically don’t go after modders and such. You also need to own a copy of Portal to play this game. You basically patch a file in Portal with a bps patch that will “convert” it into a playable N64 ROM.

    galloog1,

    What they need to do is get the licensing worked out and release it via gamepass or something. That would be a nice windfall for him and share this with with others.

    refurbishedrefurbisher,

    Valve has been known to make fangames based on their IP available through Steam. Black Mesa is a good example.

    Of course, this would have to be distributed with an emulator, but N64 emulators don’t require any proprietary code to run.

    atro_city, do gaming w Just in case you thought reviving dead games seemed easy enough, GOG had to hire a private investigator to find an IP holder living off the grid for its preservation program

    I don't understand how these guys did not support Stop Killing Games. I seemed right up their alley and they didn't say a word about it.

    bjoern_tantau,
    @bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

    Not only that. They were actually working up to support it, together with their preservation program but then just dropped it for unknown reasons.

    Dave,
    @Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

    Is it possible they got an ultimatum by an important company they work with?

    E.g. imagine the damage Bethesda could do to GOG by refusing to allow their games on GOG any more.

    hamsterkill,

    Bethesda

    That’s Microsoft now. And they’ve never seemed gung ho about GOG (I can’t think of any MS game that GOG listed while MS had control over it). Considering their “Dreamlist” thing and the status of Freelancer on it, I’m sure GOG has been lobbying hard with Microsoft to work with them, though.

    Dave,
    @Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

    Oh shit it is, and is owned by a Microsoft subsidiary that owns all sorts of games on GOG. Elder scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Quake, Dishonored, and more. GOG would be screwed if they pissed them off enough to get all those series taken off!

    Kolanaki, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    I am a premium gamer; if you want me to play your premium game, you’ll need to subscribe to me for $29.99/month or $324/year (that’s a 10% discount from the month to month!)

    mohab, do gaming w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash

    TIL broken is a premium feature 😂

    Deyis,

    Advanced purchasers get access to a special gamestate: “Fucked”.

    mohab,

    Conan did a Clueless Gamer playing it and the game crashed halfway through 😂 Not even making it up, it's on YT.

    onlooker,
    @onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Watched it earlier this week, can confirm. Here’s the link.

    Matty_r, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0
    @Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

    Did they ever end up enabling Linux support?

    v01dworks,
    @v01dworks@piefed.social avatar

    No, but I was actually able to play some solo on Linux when I tested it, and the single player mod SPT works on Linux

    I don’t believe online PVP works though

    Truscape,

    Nah, BSG hates linux. The Single Player Tarkov mod has a guide for it though.

    Matty_r,
    @Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

    Didn’t even know that’s a thing. I definitely wouldn’t buy it just for that though

    KoalaUnknown,

    Nikitia (the CEO) said that Linux support will be looked into in the future but 1.0 is the current priority.

    Matty_r,
    @Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

    We’ve heard promises like that in the past and its almost never come to fruition. So, I doubt that very much.

    KoalaUnknown,

    He didn’t promise anything; he said they would “look into it”.

    TwinTitans, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
    @TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

    Fucked that company to near death. You do not deserve retirement.

    AstaKask, do games w ESO devs at ZeniMax reel from Microsoft's 'hollow' layoff emails, with some wondering how a 'carcass of workers' is 'supposed to keep shipping award-winning games'

    Making award winning games aren’t the most effective way to make a quick buck. Getting children addicted to gambling is.

    W3dd1e, do gaming w European game publisher group responds to Stop Killing Games, claims 'These proposals would curtail developer choice"

    This entire argument is nonsense. With enough advance notification, all future games can be built with these rules in mind. If you are developing it in that way to begin with it’s not going to require any extra work.

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