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Nexy, (edited ) do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you
@Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Politics is not actual politics, its not normative womans, gays and trans people. Metaphor its ok because don’t have any of those (I’m only 20hs in)

I can’t explain why no one talks about baldur 3. I suppose its too complex for those people.

Sylvartas,

its not normative womans, gays and trans people.

Not broad enough. When “gamers” say that something is political, what they mean is that it contains politics they disagree with. The ones you cited just happen to be the things they easily recognize because their favorite right wing grifter is raging about them 24/7. As you also said, they usually don’t have the media literacy required to recognize more subtle political messages, which can be pretty funny. I remember when Disco Elysium was first released and they were very confused because it contains some actual, pretty deep political reflections

Duamerthrax,
Megaman_EXE, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

Brooo you can get the title of shithead? Why would you wana be labeled as straight when you could be shithead instead? lol. That’s what I would go for haha

boonhet,

Yeah I’d much rather take that over any sexuality. It’s a much deeper insight into my personality than just “straight”.

YeetPics, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

I love political bullshit in my fishing games lmao

Wait, no I don’t

thief_of_names,

Thanks for your opinion straight person

LoamImprovement,

I think you mean “Straight” person

savvywolf,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

In his defense, it isn’t really a fishing game without bait.

DebatableRaccoon, (edited )

I don’t think it’s inherently a “straight” issue to think the topic of sexuality can be out of place at times. I don’t think the topic of sexuality should be taboo like it has been historically but, like many topics, I think there’s a time and place for it. In my eye, the only time I need to know a person’s orientation is when I find someone I wish to pursue something with since it’s a key aspect of my chance of success. I believe what someone does and is into is a closed doors affair; it’s their business, not mine. Plenty of times someone’s sexuality is held above someone’s head, quite literally in the case of this casual fishing game where I feel it doesn’t even slightly belong. In these situations, I find myself made uncomfortable because the topic is very mismatched for the context. We’re standing here fishing, so why are you bringing who you like to bang - or not, as the case may be - into the conversation?

And huh, would you look at that, I didn’t bring my own orientation into the mix because it’s not needed.

Catoblepas,

Plenty of times someone’s sexuality is held above someone’s head, quite literally in the case of this casual fishing game where I feel it doesn’t even slightly belong

As a gay dude with a rainbow hat IRL this made me lol. I’m not wearing it to pick people up, I’m wearing it because I’m not ashamed of who I am. It’s not any different from wearing a wedding ring, couples shirts, or any of the million other displays of heterosexuality that you see and don’t think anything about.

PS: even if you are gay, internalized homophobia is a thing. Feeling that it’s super inappropriate to mention that you’re gay unless you want to fuck someone falls under that.

Azzu,

You may not believe it, but most of our behavior is motivated by sex and appealing to our desired mates. Even if you rationally say you don’t want to pick up anyone with your rainbow hat, the original impetus to do it at all comes from a biological mind that is designed to reproduce. Being confident in who you are is a desirable trait in a partner, thus making you more attractive, thus contributing to your biological goal of reproduction. Yes, you have more rational reasons for it than just that, but it’s extremely likely that the wearing of the rainbow hat feels good to you because of million years of evolution to optimize reproductive success.

And yes, even homosexual people are subject to that, even though they technically can’t reproduce. Which I think is pretty funny honestly xD

It’s also interesting that you bring all the heterosexual signals up as some kind of counterpoint… but they serve the same goal.

Catoblepas,

Friend, I am trans, I could reproduce if I wanted to with a dude (I absolutely do not want to). I’m also already married to a gay man, so my rainbow hat is not to pick people up, it’s to cover up my balding head. :p

Azzu,

Friend, keeping a partner is also necessary for reproductive success. A child historically had a higher survival rate when parents stayed together. I didn’t say that you actually want to pick anyone up with your conscious mind, I’m just saying that the decisions you make are motivated by reproductive success.

Why do you think you even feel the need to cover up your balding head. It’s the same reason, just suddenly even more obvious.

Catoblepas,

I think the decades of family and social pressure telling me that my appearance defined my self worth which I experienced when I was raised as a girl is the reason I wear a hat to cover my balding head, thanks for asking!

millie, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

Spam G in support.

Meow meow meow.

HollowNaught, do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you
@HollowNaught@lemmy.world avatar

Politics are irrelevant

Good writing is good and bad writing is bad

Lewdiculous, do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you

Ah, yes, of course… It had to be PC Gamer with this take.

Just make good games and and focus on that, the push to shove politics and activism into everything has everyone tired and burned out. It just builds skepticism from the wider gaming audience.

Massive props for Refantazio, honestly a very good game.

Kowowow, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

Can’t be that hard to use something like cheat engine to get the money needed for that

brsrklf, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks

The quotation marks are a nice touch. Quality trolling.

FlihpFlorp,

I think a question mark in parentheses would also do the trick

savvywolf, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Finally, representation for gay people who are into irony.

jordanlund, do games w Morrigan isn't just my favourite Dragon Age character, she's the greatest fantasy RPG companion of all time
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Origins was such a boring game. Hackneyed, utterly predictible plot, graphics that looked like the previous generation. There wasn’t really much there to like, and then the next games were worse.

Not sure how we even got as far as Veilguard…

BluesF,

I gotta agree, I tried 4 or 5 times and just never got into it. Doesn’t help that I’m not great at party RPGs, but yeah the story was slow and I remember being unimpressed with the dialogue options… It always felt like you were kinda pushed towards and inevitable outcome rather than really influencing things.

theRealBassist,

I might be biased as Origins was my first cRPG other than KotOR, but I still love playing through it. Just a real solid high fantasy story thats a touch grittier than you’d expect.

Darkard, do games w Morrigan isn't just my favourite Dragon Age character, she's the greatest fantasy RPG companion of all time

Imagine talking about great RPG companions and not mentioning Knights of the Old Republic

casmael,

Down you go!

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

No problem!

Zahille7,

Carth is great, but there’s something about my boy Atton that I can’t get enough of.

theRealBassist,

I love Atton until about halfway through the game. It feels like he was half-finished and there’s just a huge section of the game where he has no more fun conversation.

Zahille7,

Morrigan is not the greatest video game companion, then.

Hotzilla,

HK-47 agrees with the meatbag

Bananobanza, do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you

Yes politics are great in videogames, if the writers don’t share just 1 braincell like with many current AAA(A) games.

You’d think it’s common knowledge, yet they still churn out these depthless, one dimensional millenial writing slop.

BruceTwarzen,

Politics in video games used to be: metal gear solid.

Politics in video games now is: is that a grill protagonist in my vydia game?

misk, do games w Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

I understand that half of the world is currently healing psychological trauma from the US election results but Atlus has been commenting on politics in their games for much longer.

Henry, do games w China: Mao's Legacy is like an absurdly specific Paradox game on a tight budget, and also one of the best sims I've ever played
@Henry@lemmy.ca avatar

If you played and shared it on Facebook, would China arrest you the moment you step on its land?

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Do you want to conduct an experiment to further our collective knowledge?

I promise to send you letters if you end up in the gulag.

Henry,
@Henry@lemmy.ca avatar

:), I think “I” would tell you I’m ok in that place and find my true purpose of life, :)

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

And the letters you would get from “me” would be talking about how horrible life is outside of China, how much I love the CCP and how I enjoy spending my time reciting the “Ten affirmations, Fourteen commitments and Thirteen achievements”.

Henry,
@Henry@lemmy.ca avatar

:) and I will show you the real bible in which all “god” is replaced by “Xi”.

TwinTusks,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

Silly white man, the gulag is in Russia.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Wrong!

It’s called “исправительная колония” in russia.

Henry,
@Henry@lemmy.ca avatar

China calls it “Zaijiaoyu” Centre, which literally means Reeducation Centre :)

bennel, do games w Ubisoft boss says it knows players think it has an 'inconsistency in quality,' so it delayed Assassin's Creed Shadows to flip that script

I disagree. Ubisoft has been very consistently trash for a while.

BonerMan,

Not really, look at anno for example. Its just the big titles that are regarded as not good.

neidu3,

1602 was the best Anno. Fight me.

BonerMan,

OK, I personally think 1404 with the interesting and challenging campaign including the Venice dlc was the top, afterwards I think 1800 is the next best. My most controversial opinion is that both 2070 and 2205 where good and well made games, with some flaws of course but that doesn’t mean its bad. Shure some disliked the setting and I was septic as well.

neidu3,

Never played the futuristic ones. What appealed to me with the anno games was the atmosphere of sails and settlers.

BonerMan,

They bring that atmosphere to the future settings very well actually

donuts,

I agree on 2070 and 2205. I really enjoyed them and I chalked it up to me liking sci-fi enough to be able to bear it.

BonerMan,

Yeah a setting change like that was very risky, but the next is also going to be very interesting going into the opposid direction.

I quite like SciFi so the setting itself wasn’t a problem for me. 1800 goes into the steampunk direction, would appreciate a full on Steampunk Anno. And a Dieselpunk version would be cool as well.

olicvb,
@olicvb@lemmy.ca avatar

Yea, I mean Watchdogs 2, The Division, Steep, I know some friends loved For Honor and R6: Siege is amazing (idk how the game looks today tho with all the updates they made).

Seems people tend to see ubisoft as AC and FarCry only.

BonerMan,

Some people love to shit on ubisoft when others are way worse.

ech,

I have enough shit to go around.

Katana314,

I still applaud Watch Dogs 2 for integrating offline and online play much better than Dark Souls did. You can still pause the game, for instance.

Harvey656,
@Harvey656@lemmy.world avatar

All of those games you just picked are quite old, watchdogs 2 came out in 2016, these games no longer are the ubishit standard, they are far above it. Plus Ubispft doesn’t make sequels to those games anymore, for whatever reason.

PunchingWood,

I personally loved Avatar and Outlaws.

They’re not groundbreaking games, but they’re both very immersive and for fans of both franchises it’s a lot more fun to explore in these games.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Their current Monopoly game is infamously bad

BonerMan,

OK, but who gives a shit about a monopoly game? Either play it like a normal person, when drinking with friends or don’t.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve watched huge vtubers play it multiple times and every single time the game ends early from a crash. Or the game accidentally bankrupts a player. It’s bad publicity

BonerMan,

HM… Yeah thats Bad publicity.

But that never happened to me, and I played both games for over 200 hours each. I even played them on Linux through emulation and it didn’t happen.

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