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rayquetzalcoatl, do games w God of War Ragnarök will require a PSN account to play on PC
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

You’re telling me a week of “protest” followed by gamers immediately forgiving the big corporation because they eventually backtracked didn’t really change anything? :o

See you next week, when PSN accounts are required for Helldivers 2 again lol

Xantar, do games w God of War Ragnarök will require a PSN account to play on PC

It’s hilarious, it’s almost like they got so used to having their way with a captive console audience that they didn’t consider PC players have a choice.

Makeitstop, do games w God of War Ragnarök will require a PSN account to play on PC

Not in a million fucking years Sony. I would have gladly given you my money, but apparently that’s not good enough for you.

TommySoda, do gaming w Sony apologizes for Sony interview with Sony developer Neil Druckmann

Sony

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Bookmeat,

Sony

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    gofsckyourself,

    Sony

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    Sony

    9tr6gyp3, do gaming w Sony apologizes for Sony interview with Sony developer Neil Druckmann

    This seems one-sided

    MagnyusG,

    Thisony sonyeemsony sonye-sonyided

    Kroxx,

    It is a bit but not terribly so imo, but I do hate Sony so I have a bias. Here is a more neutral article on it:

    theverge.com/…/sony-the-last-of-us-interview-neil…

    z3rOR0ne, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will
    @z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

    Damn…makes me want to take the time to pirate games I already bought and own…

    And then write it in my will that those who inherit my few earthly possessions have to play through each of my games at least once in front of a lawyer in order to receive their inheritance. Lol, I kid, 😂…or am I 😈?

    SidewaysHighways,

    Meh I haven’t even played each of my games, or probably even half

    z3rOR0ne,
    @z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

    Honestly, me neither. Lol.

    Dasnap,
    @Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

    This is why I buy GOG first where possible. You can block my account, but ya can’t take my hard drive.

    The_Che_Banana,

    You child boots up “Kabuki Fursona 7” with tears in their eyes as the lawyer just laughs.

    z3rOR0ne,
    @z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

    Then they boot up Spiritfarer and everybody sobs. Lol.

    dRLY, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will
    @dRLY@lemmy.ml avatar

    Would be kind of funny to see the different stats that would change if a family was able to pass on the full account. Like maybe one child didn’t give a fuck about games (outside of just signing in here and there to keep it alive and update stuff like email and security) and no other activity. But then their kid goes hard into games and see the gaps of time. There would be lots of accounts that may have super awkward stuff like hentai visual novels. lol. But seeing some stupid high amounts of achievements and total hours of play time would be neat.

    But not exactly shocking that these digital accounts would not have the ability to go much past your death. Unless we see the very deep change of all companies allowing people to remove a game and basically “gift” it. Which I can’t see happening. Even physically having discs/carts hits a limit after so long. Normal wear of use and the material rotting does mean it is likely those would also not survive past a couple of generations. And that ignores the same issues afflicting the consoles needed to play the media.

    So basically the real solution to both the digital and physical passing games (or music/movies) is to rip DRM-less copies and keep the needed tools to either use the game without having the disc or needing to register to a server that is likely gone. Might be a good idea to leave ReadMe instructions along with the iso/rom and copies of the official and community patches that help with new OSes. After that it is basically just down to needing virtual machines or some other PC emulators to run old emulators.

    CosmicCleric, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar
    Hawke,

    Why is the cc-by-nc-sa license disappointing? Is your disappointment exclusive to version 4.0?

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Why is the cc-by-nc-sa license disappointing? Is your disappointment exclusive to version 4.0?

    My only disappontment is with those humans (and humans who use ““humans””) who side with AI model using corporations that steal other people’s content to train said models for profit, over regular everyday people.

    https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

    AlyxMS, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will

    Also like all steam applications bundles with Steam’s DRM, right?

    Wonder what happens when valve/steam shut down one day.

    smnwcj,

    Best case scenario it's bought, or other platforms honor a number of steam purchases as a perk. But ultimately...poof

    Luckily they make a lot, have relatively low operation costs, and are a private company that doesnt need to be enshitified for share holders

    TheOctonaut,

    About 20 years ago when it first came about this was also a question and Valve said they would “find a way” to unlock games for everyone. Now back then, that was when they only had Valve games on Steam, and a weird ninja game that I bought but never played, setting a president for all time…

    FigMcLargeHuge,

    Must have been Bush… I think the word you were looking for was precedent.

    TheOctonaut,

    Sorry yes, in my defence I was 40.1 degrees fever at the time so punctuation didn’t seem important either.

    FigMcLargeHuge,

    No worries. I thought it was funny.

    Gigasser, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will

    How the hell can they know though???

    jol,

    They can’t, but if you don’t give you password and safety codes away before you die they can’t legally let you transfer ownership of the games. Just don’t tell them and arrange for all your emails, security keys, and 2FA keys to be safely transfered to your children.

    TheBat,
    @TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

    Check account age? Gotta be effective method after like 50 years or so

    LordOfLocksley,

    That’s discrimination against the immortal

    DebatableRaccoon, (edited )

    And the grandpappy gamers. I’ma have joysticks rigged into my zimmer frame when the time comes. Til death do we game.

    TinklesMcPoo,

    Highlander rules state there can only be one though.

    FiremanEdsRevenge, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will

    You can inherit their debt, but you can’t inherit their video games. What a time to be alive.

    notgold,
    @notgold@aussie.zone avatar

    System is broken that’s for sure

    Xtallll,
    @Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    At least in America, you can’t inherit debt.

    erwan,

    You don’t inherit debt but they’re paid on the estate before inheritance.

    So you can’t get just debt as inheritance, but debt are only lost for the creditor if the person who died had a negative net worth.

    teawrecks,

    Exactly. You don’t inherit debt, because you can’t inherit stuff the person was only borrowing.

    Evil_incarnate,

    There goes my plan of maxing out credit cards on stuff to bequeath.

    Passerby6497,

    If you’re gonna do that, give the shit away before you die.

    disgrunty,

    And check your local inheritance laws. Some places will take pre-death gifts into account depending on how long the time between gift and death is. The UK, as an example, looks at gifts made up to 7 years before a person’s death. It’s messed up.

    erwan,

    In France there is a limit, about 30k every 15 years. It’s not messed up, it’s necessary if we want inheritance taxes to have any weight.

    Kyrgizion,

    Buy physical gold & hide it (and well, not just in the house).

    What are they going to do? Sue your descendants for something they can’t prove?

    AeroLemming,

    If they can prove you got a bunch of gold with a loan and then your descendants suddenly have a bunch of gold, but they can’t prove it’s the same gold, is that enough to make the descendants pay back the loan?

    What if you did it with Monero to make it impossible to prove it’s the same money?

    Ragnarok314159,

    My dad did this. Was almost 70k in unsecured debt at the time of his death. I gave most everything away except his fishing stuff. He had so much shit.

    Only one credit card company said “it’s good you are taking over the payments”. Told her I never agreed to that, just informing you of his death, and if they contact me again my Saul level lawyer is going to enjoy that lawsuit. Never heard from them.

    Don’t ever assume the debt of someone else.

    teawrecks,

    Aw damn, I’m glad you knew better, that’s downright predatory and should be illegal. You know there are people out there now paying their parents’ credit card bills, thinking that that’s just how things are. I hope that when those people find out, they are entitled to getting every penny back with interest.

    Mango,

    If there’s any debt collectors who think my parents owe them more than they owe me, I have news for them.

    arxdat,

    As of yet.

    Kata1yst,
    @Kata1yst@kbin.social avatar

    Most debt actually can't be inherited, instead debt collectors get first dibs on inheritance assets until they're made whole or the estate runs out of assets, whichever comes first.

    That doesn't mean that debt collectors won't try to convince family members to pay. Just tell them where they can shove it.

    ColeSloth,

    You can’t inherit debt in the US.

    Sanctus, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Just turn your family sharing on for it

    mesamunefire,

    Or give them the password. They aren’t going to check if your still alive.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    It is bullshit tho. I feel like for how massive these libraries are, I should be able to do that. Even if it requires a death certificate to make the transfer.

    Gradually_Adjusting,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    This is what steam is: a lesser form of ownership in exchange for the perks of the platform. I’ve come to prefer physical media first, DRM free second, and steam third. It’s just not as good of a value proposition to me compared to outright ownership (of the license to use the software, I know we don’t own “the game”).

    natecox,
    @natecox@programming.dev avatar

    Physical media today isn’t really much better though, increasingly frequently all a disk gets you is a license to activate a digital copy anyways, with a “must be online for first play” requirement.

    Gradually_Adjusting,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s sadly true. I have been lucky so far, but I know one day I’ll accidentally give money to a developer who does this

    teawrecks,

    I’m curious what recent games you’ve been able to purchase physical copies of that ran without updating or validating using the internet. I didn’t know any publishers still did that, at least not on PC.

    Gradually_Adjusting,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    I admittedly don’t buy many games lately, especially not from the big budget crowd. BG3 seems to run fine without internet, as do Sea of Stars and Noita.

    FigMcLargeHuge,

    That’s exactly how I ended up with a steam account. Bought a Civ V cd and the game isn’t on the cd, just an installer for steam and a key.

    NoneYa,

    You got a CD? Some of these boxes have just a piece of heavy paper with a code to download. Fortnite for Switch immediately comes to mind.

    The only benefit of this is for those who want to pay for cash or those who want a physical box to display.

    grue,

    (of the license to use the software, I know we don’t own “the game”).

    No, you don’t own the copyright, but you do own your individual copy. Don’t fall for the “licensed, not sold” self-serving propaganda.

    Gradually_Adjusting,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    I added the caveat simply because I didn’t want to get into it

    firecat,

    Ubisoft “No you don’t”

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    And Ubisoft can go fuck themselves with a cactus

    teawrecks,

    Add it to the list of ethical circumstances for piracy.

    In fact, for the titles I cared about, I would contact the studio/publisher themselves, explain the situation, send a death cert and a steam account, and see if they would allow a transfer or grant a new key. If not…they’re part of the problem.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    I guarantee that you’ll get crickets for 99% of those emails

    teawrecks,

    Yeah, but I would say trying to contact is the right thing to do here before pirating.

    DudeDudenson,

    At the end of the day steam is also selling licenses not games. They might be the least diabolical shop around but copyright laws still apply.

    Zerush, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    How will they control if someone other continue with your account when you die?

    Moghul,

    Same as any other illegality. It’s legal until you get caught. The account will work fine until for one reason or another it becomes obvious you’re not the original owner of the account, and then it’s banned. Billing changes, location changes, ip changes, confession, etc.

    Zerush,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Maybe some generations later in the future it becomes suspicious. Valve want gain money and there is no reason that it will deep investigate if the downloads are still paid from the same account and paid with the same banc account, irrelevant if it’s from a different IP or ISP, that are things that can change even with the same user (transladet to other city, changing provider or PC, etc).

    Moghul,

    But imagine if the original owner bought Skyrim, and then you have to buy it again if you want to play it. Two Skyrim moneys!

    Zerush,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Anyway, if I’m dead I’ll give a fuck if Valve want to claim something

    dependencyinjection,

    When it appears the OG user is 150 years old.

    grahamja,

    I can’t be the only one that puts their age as 1st Jan any random year in the 1920s instead of taking the time to put my real age in to view new games coming out. Steam already thinks I am near death.

    dependencyinjection,

    Nope. I too don’t use my own DOB but I’ll tend to keep the range correct. Maybe I should start going older.

    vulgarcynic,
    @vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

    There was a great response to this from Gabe several years ago (looks like 13 years ago, fuck, I’m old)…

    totalgaming.co.uk/93-of-steam-users-born-on-janua…

    bitfucker, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will

    Shame. It would be a good way to know if you are their favorite child lol. All joking aside, I think this is a compromise as others have alluded deep in comments. Valve likely doesn’t care or enforce it, but they don’t want to be responsible for account transfer due to games licensing and other legal shenanigans.

    arxdat, do gaming w You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will

    Ahh, let the Ensh*ttification of all these platforms wash over you.

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