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andrewta, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending

Flash back to mass Effect. Make a wrong decision in Mass Effect 1 and it bites you in Mass Effect 3

ummthatguy,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

https://media1.tenor.com/m/IH29-hYOwggAAAAC/mass-effect-mordin-solus.gif

“Would have liked to run tests on the seashells”

Takios,
@Takios@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Choosing the good options leads to this though.

Carvex,

First playthrough I didn’t use a guide, shot Wrex, stuck with Ashley until I could ditch her in ME3, and lost almost everyone in the ending of ME2. Next playthrough much better!

andrewta,

The first play through is always rough, and in my opinion it should be. It makes it better that way.

stardust, do games w "PSN isn't supported in my country. What do I do?" Arrowhead CEO: "I don't know"

Patient gaming for the win.

DogWater,

Does that really apply to a live service game?

Like I get your sentiment, and I agree…but waiting for a game like this to die and then going see it wasn’t worth it good thing I waited doesn’t make any sense in a general way. Like imagine waiting for destiny servers to shut down in the future and say good thing I didn’t waste my time. Like yeah of course it does when the player base moves on. The point was to play it before that happened.

Like…youre right…but whats the point of saying anything. You don’t like live service games because of the risk of stuff like this happening. It’s not like a no man’s sky thing where you wait for them to patch and offer discounts

stardust, (edited )

Yes I would say so. If game doesn’t show itself able to stay around for years and shuts down early like other live services games then I’d personally have considered it a waste of money due to it becoming unplayable compared to non live service games.

Most successful live services games are free too, so that’s an additional uphill battle for paid live service games. It depends on if someone is willing to spend full retail money on what may be a temporary experience. I’m not one of those.

For paid online only games I don’t rush in. If it seems like it will stick around after steep discounts that’s when I’d be fine with spending money. If it dies before then I’m glad I didn’t waste money on it. No need to be offended that I take the same approach to paid live service games as I do regular games. You can choose to pay for early access if the experience is worth it too you, and if it is worth it you should.

DogWater,

Oh I’m not offended, I don’t play hell divers. I just associate patient gamers mentality with discounts and all dlcs and patches included. So I wanted to know what you said that for

calabast, do gaming w This also applies to a lot of RPG fans

Yeah, but that book’s soundtrack absolutely rips

TragicNotCute, do gaming w A good egg
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like there’s a good chance he loves his friend and that’s why he built it. I also think there’s a good chance some part of that castle will intentionally kill his friend while he laughs maniacally.

superduperenigma,

Walks through front door

Hears pressure plate trigger

Hears TNT hissing beneath the floor

“Oh, you mother fuc-” BOOM!

TragicNotCute,
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

But with love.

youngGoku,

Nothing beats doc pranking grian with a flock of ghasts in the over world.

otp,

And he could love his friend without being in love with his friend.

Bros can love one another.

dankm, do gaming w What an incredible step in human explorati-

I’d hate to be the first human… in the original game there are dead people all over the place and the evil humans you do see are posessed.

morphballganon,

Also… and I never see anyone else mention this… DOOM does not take place on Mars.

DOOM episode 1: Knee-Deep in the Dead takes place on Phobos. Episode 2: The Shores of Hell takes place on Deimos. Episode 3: Inferno takes place in Hell.

Doom 2: Hell on Earth takes place, as you might think, on Earth.

The whole plot of the first game is that humans are experimenting with teleporters between Phobos and Deimos, when Deimos mysteriously vanishes. To investigate, the player character is sent to Phobos, with the mission to make it through the teleporter to Deimos to see where it is. But upon arriving on Phobos, something is horribly wrong…

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The music can be heard all the way from Mars’ moons.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Mars adjacent.

dankm,

Right, forgot about the moons. I managed to confuse new and original doom in my mind. IIRC the humans didn’t even invent the teleporters. They were already there.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Also… and I never see anyone else mention this… DOOM does not take place on Mars.

But Doom (2016) does.

I feel that many gamers nowadays mean the 2016 reboot, when they talk about Doom, and not the original from 1993. We’re getting old …

AngryCommieKender,

I don’t know if the '93 version of Doom will do it, but it probably will. I installed Dark Forces on a machine several years ago, and was happily playing for about 20-30 minutes when I suddenly got motion sickness. Those older games run at a lower fps, and apparently my eyes really don’t like that.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

The original DOS version of Doom runs at 35fps, exactly half of the 70Hz refresh rate of 320x200 VGA mode. I thought it felt really smooth back in the day, but it does feel weird and stuttery on modern systems when played through Dosbox. I get used to it after a bit, but still.

Fortunately as Doom is open source, there are many enhanced Doom ports that lift this 35fps limit and allow it to run on modern machines without emulation. I usually play in GZDoom which can run at the max refresh rate of my monitor (144Hz), so it feels silky smooth.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Haven’t played Doom myself but I have a couple of questions. Did doom 1993 happen in 2016s universe and was doom guy canonically the first human on Mars is ether universe.

chiliedogg,

Definite “No” to the second. Doom (2016) definitely takes place in a universe where the Doom Marine has been around the block a few times, but I’m not sure how clear it is that they’re in the exact same universe.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

First of all, there really isn’t all that much story to the original Doom. There are a couple of paragraphs in a readme.txt file tucked away in the installation folder, and an ending screen after each episode… but that’s basically it.

As I understood it, Doom 2016 is a re-imagining of Doom, so the universes are not canonically linked. Kinda like how The Thing From Another World (1956), which takes place in Alaska, isn’t canonically linked with The Thing (1982) which takes place on Antarctica.

Uruanna,

2016 and Eternal are still in my backlog, but I remember discussions about Eternal showing the hallucination of a bunny, and it was a hint that it was in fact the same doomguy: OG ends with the reveal that doomguy’s pet bunny on Earth was murdered and beheaded during the invasion by the demons (that ending screen with a bunny’s head on a spike). It’s the whole reason doomguy is mad at the demons, and he’s still pissed in 2016 and Eternal.

It might be mostly player deduction and there’s no official lore about it, but the bunny is definitely a hint or at least an easter egg. The wiki says the pet bunny was called Daisy.

hemko,

Doom =/= Doom (2016) or Doom 4

If you’re talking about Doom, it’s the original Doom game (not to be confused with Ultimate Doom)

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Doom (2016)

If you’re talking about Doom, it’s the original Doom game

Sorry but you’re not the arbiter of worldwide speech, so you don’t get to decide that. The name of the 2016 game is just Doom. If there’s a chance of confusion you can add (2016) for clarity, as I did, but it really has the same title as the original Doom game and there’s nothing wrong with just calling it Doom. Which it is.

See:

https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/9c2f4a86-cdf1-4b05-b213-356cca7feb9a.png

It’s like Scarface and Scarface, or Cape Fear and Cape Fear, or Dune and Dune, or … you get the point.

Nelots,

For the vast, vast majority of Doom (2016) players who have never played Doom (1993), they would probably completely disagree.

I think it makes more sense to refer to the more relevant, popular, and well-known game as Doom and just refer to the other as “the original Doom” or Doom (1993). Especially since that’s what the store page does, as the other person made clear on the 2016 end, and this store page should make clear on the 1993 end.

store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM_1993/

frezik, do gaming w How times change

It’s almost like having double frame buffers for 720p or larger, 16 bit PCM audio, memory safe(ish) languages, streaming video, security sandboxes, rendering fully textured 3d objects with a million polygons in real time, etc. are all things that take up cpu and ram.

glimse,

I will run any game at 60fps if it was designed for this exact machine that does nothing but play games designed for it and is also 16-bit with pixel graphics and also has low quality audio and also fits in the memory of the cartridge

reddig33,

I didn’t realize web browsing in Chrome required fully textured 3D objects. Not to mention playing 720p video with PCM audio in a separate app doesn’t grind everything to a halt.

frezik,

There are shared libraries that have to be loaded regardless of you having a tab that uses them or not.

reddig33,

That’s not how dynamically loading libraries work. They load and unload as needed.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

well the gpu doesn’t care if it’s 2d or 3d, but you are rendering a whole bunch of textured triangles… (separated into tiles for fast partial or multithreaded re-rendering), and also just-in-time rasterizing fonts, running a complex constraint solver to lay out the ui, parsing 3 completely separate languages, communicating using multiple complex network protocols, doing a whole bunch interprocess communication in order to sandbox stuff

Aux,

Everything, including Chrome, is rendered as a 3D object these days. It’s a lot faster, but takes more RAM.

MonkderDritte,

Are you talking about games? There, it’s mostly textures.

Web, that’s a whole other story, why it uses so much RAM.

frezik,

WebGL means the browser has access to the GPU. Also, the whole desktop tends to be rendered as a 3D space these days. It makes things like scaling and blur effects easier, among other benefits.

MonkderDritte,

tends to be rendered as a 3D space

Good to know, thanks.

andrewta, do gaming w Feeling old

Doom came out in 1993 Dec 10

So yeah just over 30 years ago

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks, I’ll just be over here browsing the AARP webpage.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Hm this mortuary guide looks interesting…

ManniSturgis,

I still listen to the soundtrack regularly. Though the game is slightly older than I am.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

We played that at the office after work :-/

jcrabapple, do gaming w Just finished binging the Fallout show, would recommend
@jcrabapple@infosec.pub avatar

How in the fuck…

BaardFigur, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.

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  • melpomenesclevage,

    The game was about the game. Get off my lawn.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah. I mean there was shitty stuff back then, of course.

    Arcade games, games designed to not be beatable without their guides (it’s why moon logic is a concept in the first place), that kind of stuff. But it’s a whole different level nowadays.

    AceFuzzLord, do gaming w Ignorance is bliss

    Even if I am pretty sure I’m not getting a virus, I’m always nervous when that happens regardless of the program on my desktop.

    Rhynoplaz, do games w How Do You Deal With Thumb Stick Drift?

    I used to think that Xbox controllers ALWAYS drift within a year.

    Then I started keeping a secret controller away from the kids. It lasted years with no drift. I got a new one and let the kids use my old one… Drift in a month.

    It’s not the controllers. You just drop it too much.

    fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

    I’ve never had a controller with drift problems, and I know how I treat my controllers. I’ve seen people with controllers that drift all the time, and I’ve seen how they treat their controllers. There’s definitely a link.

    That said high quality controllers (like first party ones) generally drift less, but not always (see switch joycons). If OP is killing his controller in months then something is going on.

    GoodEye8,

    but not always (see switch joycons).

    And PS5 one. I’ve had a lot of controllers over the years and I’ve never had stick drift, except with joycons and the PS5 controller.

    The switch pro controller is probably my most used controller, because it’s so ergonomic. I put the switch pro controller through a few thousand hours of smash bros. The stick is visibly deformed from mashing certain inputs over and over. And then a few thousand hours more playing Zelda and monster hunter (and souls games on PC). I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s had over 10 thousand hours of use. No stick drift on the controller.

    I was gifted a PS5 controller because I was planning on getting the PS5. I never got a PS5, but that’s a different story. Anyway I decided to break it in to get comfortable with the layout and feel of the controller. Maybe max thousand hours of playtime which I’d consider it very light usage. And the left stick started to drift left. I’ve looked into it. It might just be an unfortunate speck of dust interfering with the sensor, but cleaning it requires almost complete disassembly and quite frankly it wasn’t that good of a controller anyway so it’s just collecting dust.

    YuzuDrink,

    I’ve been suspicious that newer production lines for joysticks have been cutting costs in cheaper materials for a while now. I usually replace the joysticks when they drift, but I’m also quite comfortable to taking things apart and fixing them.

    I remember my old PS2 controllers never drifted and that was back when I played hard on them every day after school. These days I hardly have time to play during the week, and they regularly go bad within a year or two.

    bob_omb_battlefield,

    I’ve had drift issues with my pro controller several times and I think I have less play time than you. Many of these controllers use the same stick component inside.

    stardust,

    I got a 360 controller that is going strong but my Playstation and Nintendo controllers ended up drifting. I think they just don’t make them like they used to. My 360 controller is still one of my daily drivers.

    altima_neo,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    I dunno, my old 360 controller is so loose. I wound up getting an xbone controller a couple of years back to replace it.

    slaacaa,

    For me it’s the other way around, old X360/PS4 controller had some minor stick drift, but no problem with newet gens

    slaacaa,

    Same conclusion for me.

    The way some of my friends use controllers wants me to not have them around my house. Loudly banging sticks against the outer extremities, while for me it never even makes a sound.

    I take care of my controllers, and only had very minot stick drift on 5-7 years old X/PS controller.

    electric,

    It’s not physical damage, they really are just crap now. Used controllers for a decade and a half. Early Xbox One controllers lasted for years until the face buttons would become sticky. 360 controller was a tank, only had a loose trigger. All the ones I’ve had recently just keep getting drift.

    FlyingSquid, do gaming w I miss manuals...
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    If anyone is old enough to remember Infocom games, they came with “feelies,” just random fun stuff related to the game they decided to include. It occasionally was needed to solve a game puzzle, but usually not.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/efb22da1-bbcc-4003-8e4d-c3dc9168624d.png

    I can still smell that box. They had a certain smell back then.

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

    When people talk about games having heart, this is it. Little unnecessary goodies just because you’re excited that people are buying your game and you want them to be into it.

    wazzupdog,

    Getting a new game and having books and stickers to mess with on the ride home until you can play the game.

    Kiosade,

    “Kids these days” will never know that feeling. Of course, they’ll have their ipads, so probably won’t care.

    Classy,

    Myst and Riven had the greatest boxes! Then also The 11th Hour and Phantasmagoria.

    captain_aggravated, do gaming w Nothing is stopping you from this right now
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Lots of things stopping me from doing this:

    1. I am currently 36 years old, I will not be 38 at any time during the year 2024.
    2. I do not own a copy of Wrestlemania 2000.
    3. I finished my pizza rolls yesterday.
    diffcalculus,

    Sounds more like you’re not trying hard enough

    StopSpazzing,
    @StopSpazzing@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree. He just needs to smoke a carton of cigs and drink a bottle of whiskey and he will feel older the next day for sure!

    TwinTusks,

    I also going to bed at 10:30

    stoy, do gaming w Update: I got my baby working again! I put the new one in a the cupboard again. 10 years and going!

    I am glad you got it working again, and thank you for warning me about the state of your mouse, I will bring some disposable gloves if I need to use it

    BiggestBulb, do games w What game fits this?
    @BiggestBulb@kbin.run avatar

    Minecraft. There's always another automatic farm to create, a new cave to explore and a new mod to try out! Not to mention the fun that multiplayer brings...

    jroid8,

    I’m currently playing a modpack called Divine Journey 2 which I started back in the middle of October. 280 hours in and still in chapter 11 of the quest book (30 chapters in total) and it’s still addictive and enjoyable.

    blue,

    thanks for the recommendation! i have been slowly getting into modpacks. just tried this out for a few minutes and already look forward to exploring more tomorrow.

    jroid8,

    I’m very glad that you’re liking it so far. The tips you see at the bottom left of the world loading screens are actually very helpful so don’t miss them

    piyuv,

    After some time all the caves are the same though…

    BiggestBulb,
    @BiggestBulb@kbin.run avatar

    That's why there's mods! Also, if the caves get samey, you can always go end-busting or build a new project.

    NOPper,

    My groups new obsession is Vintage Story. Set up a server and we’ve collectively put in hundreds of hours over the last few months.

    Help.

    adorable_yangire,
    @adorable_yangire@lemmy.world avatar

    i didn’t know Minecraft was on steam

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