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bighatchester, do gaming w Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5

My ps5 is basically a really big PS4 lately.

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

It also doesn’t help that a bunch of games have an upgrade charge, I mostly just use it for Blu-ray lately.

johannesvanderwhales,

Yeah, but at the same time it makes the PS4 games a much better experience. I dunno if that justifies the spend for a lot of people, but I don’t regret getting one.

jordanlund, (edited ) do gaming w Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

“meaning the other 59 million must still be using the PlayStation 4.”

That’s not what that means.

As of last December there were still 2 million active PS3 users.

playstationlifestyle.net/…/ps3-monthly-active-use…

I’d imagine there’s still a limited number of PS Vita and PSTV accounts too.

usualsuspect191,

I stopped at the PS2…

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think PSN applied to the PS2, started with the PS3.

XTL,

PS2 didn’t have networking apart from the odd firewire port and a very expensive devkit.

BigFatNips,

Pretty sure all the slims had a built in Ethernet port and I think there was an adapter to add them to the original fat ones too

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I had the original with the expansion, I used to play Tony hawk online

There was no psn back then though, you just plugged in and were good to go

XTL,

Oh, I forgot the slim existed. Interesting that someone took advantage of that.

JackbyDev,

PS2 definitely had online play. I never played online but my friend did.

DebatableRaccoon,

Still the best console of all time so that’s a pretty solid stopping point

30p87,

The best console is still foot with bash.

DebatableRaccoon,

Forgive me while I groan

MeDuViNoX,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hacked Vita is still great.

alucard,

Hacked Vita with RetroArch is so so so much fun!!

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Hacked vita is goated

bighatchester,

I love my vita !

Katana314,

I had a lot of fun with my Vita even without hacking it. It had a longer lifetime than people realize, in part through digital sales and indie games that were planning to do PS3/PS4 releases anyway.

jbloggs777,

One of these years my children will discover the PS3 hidden unused in the entertainment center since they were born, and there’ll be 2mil+1. Muhaha.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

When a new generation starts, I hook it up in the living room, move the previous gen to the bedroom, and mothball the oldest gen.

So when I kick off, my kid, or grand kids, are going to discover organized boxes of gaming gear. I’m sure it will be all over whatever passes for social media then. :)

Currently:

Living Room - PS5, Xbox Series X, Steam Deck Dock.

Bedroom - PS4, Xbox One X, Switch.

J4g2F,
@J4g2F@lemmy.ml avatar

I still use my PS3, enough great and cheap games and can play my PS1 and 2 games on the big screen with wireless controllers.

Newer games I play on PC anyways.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Was gonna say, I never bought a PS4. My PS3 is still kicking.

XTL,

I just got a second one because it was peanuts and came with two good controllers while mine are all kind of subtly broken.

I do actually have a PS4 with 5 controllers because once bit. I don’t know if I’ll find the time, but if I feel like playing something stuck on the three like infamous or demons souls, I can.

Maybe I’ll get the 5 one day. And maybe I’ll find that emulation can solve the old title problem.

RealFknNito, do gaming w PlayStation Reversing Course On Helldivers 2 Is Both Smart And A Sign Of How Inept It Is
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Attempted in the name of greed, reversed in the name of greed.

Corporations are the answer to “what will make the most amount of money?”

The only thing they learned, for the next week, is that a healthy playerbase is more profitable than an exclusive one.

wreckedcarzz, do gaming w Ex-PlayStation Boss Has A Warning For The Game Industry
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Avoiding the sites ads and other garbage, I fed the url through the Kagi summarizer (“key moments” mode); here’s the output, verbatim:

  • Shawn Layden, former CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, has concerns about rising costs, consolidation in the industry, and game preservation.
  • Consolidation through acquisitions can reduce creativity as studios are absorbed into larger companies and projects.
  • Blockbuster games requiring huge budgets and long development times are risky and could limit creativity.
  • The focus on only a few popular genres may prevent gaining new players who are not interested in those genres.
  • Preservation of older games is important culturally but the industry has no unified effort to make past games widely accessible.
  • Backwards compatibility has improved but many games from platforms like PS3 remain difficult to play on new consoles.
  • Layden worries large acquisitions could reduce the number of creative voices as smaller studios are absorbed.
  • The entry of tech giants like Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon could disrupt the game industry.
  • Layden believes companies need to take more risks, find broader appeal, and develop more sustainable business models.
  • While some acquisitions save studios, Layden remains concerned about the long-term impact on creativity within the industry.
tamlyn,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

I think as chairman of world wide studios beside shun yoshida, he hasn’t done a bad job. Game that came out that time were good and at least a bit more creative than at the moment. So i understanding to be more risky is a good point.

But he tells us now for years, that games get more and more expensive and i think he was as well responsible for very expensive games, like the naughty dog games. So does he think this popular games were a mistake?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

This summary is about as long as the article.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

No ads, ‘read this!’, ‘watch this video’, slide-out bullshit though. I got two paragraphs in and the text was like 1/4 of my phone screen, the rest were ads/links/slide-out offers. Fuck allllll that noise.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, fair, but while I haven't looked into it myself, I'm sure there's an ad block solution on phones too.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

See, that’s the thing: I can’t install stuff for everyone’s phones. But I can offer a solution for others when I feel that it’s worth taking a minute of my day to do something for the benefit of many. So I did.

Or, more obviously: tf you complaining that I’m trying to help everyone? Lol

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I have seen people post factually incorrect AI summaries often enough that I don't trust them by default. This one's crime was just not being a summary but a paraphrase, lol.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I asked it for key points though, as a wall of text seemed counter-intuitive. Out of curiosity, here’s the “summary” style:

Shawn Layden, former CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, has expressed concerns about consolidation in the video game industry leading to less creativity as large publishers acquire more studios. He worries that independent studios will lose their creative spark when absorbed into massive projects from big publishers. Layden also questioned if the industry can continue growing by relying only on the same popular genres. Additionally, he advocated for better preservation of older games, arguing publishers have an obligation to make their entire history accessible to new generations. However, game preservation often does not help the bottom line. In summary, Layden makes compelling points about the need for disruption, more risks with new IP, and greater access to gaming’s past to ensure its vibrant future.

CaptKoala,

Can confirm summary accurate.

CaptKoala,

I think you’ve done readers a service, I checked your comment before even looking at the article, as I’ve seen so many garbage articles posted here (no hate Lemmings, it’s not your garbage writing, it’s bad journos doing bad journo stuff).

I appreciate you fam, and those complaining of ads need (on Android at least) to use an ad blocking DNS (I use Adguard DNS) in conjunction with an actual ad blocker.

I find it laughable that there are people out there in 2023 not using some form of ad blocking.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I roll with NextDNS + Iceraven with uB, and + (at home) I also run a secondary DNS check locally on my router for adverts (and other categories), in the unusual chance that either uB or ND let one through. I have built this dome around my/family’s devices, but I get that it’s tedious and many don’t understand how to do this, but want to get the benefit. Plus in this particular instance, I find it really cool how the Kagi ai tool works (I’ve used it a few times myself when I don’t want to read a novel-worth of an article) and I’m paying for the privilege anyway so why not share the output.

Just wanted to help out a little :)

CaptKoala,

Cheers for the in depth response! I can’t decide if you’ve made my decision making harder, easier, or some combination of both.

In the rare occasions UBO/Adguard let one slip through, I find 99% of the time a refresh solves it (different ad it does pick up maybe?) Failing that, I just wait for an update and that process has yet to fail me.

I’ll have a look around, my server is not yet entered into service, but I am looking to run Pihole network wide, I have yet to decide on a DNS for it, but I will certainly give NextDNS a looksee as a starting point to see if it fits my use case.

dragonator001, do games w Last Of Us Studio Naughty Dog Is Cutting Developers

Not a lot, but such incidents are a clear indication that we are slowly seeing the Covid effect wearing off at its entirety. Offices and companies are way too eager to get back to the pre-covid grind. Their long held products are now being released.

I am also working in a IT industry and them slowly cutting off our Work-from-home days under the guise of low productivity is disheartening to say the least.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

… what? Does lemmy have karma bots that just fire off pre-written feel good comments? … Does lemmy have karma?

What does that have to do with any of this. Where is the “long held product”? Hell, the sister article is even “Yeah… that MP mode is never coming out”

dragonator001,

Well, I don’t know what can I do to assure you that I am a bot.

By ‘long held product’ I meant the games that were delayed due to covid.

And maybe I am biased, but I don’t really see that much of a positive except for big games releasing this year.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

Again, what does that have to do with anything here?

Naughty Dog have not launched anything since the TLOU remake a year or two back. And WFH is not mentioned at all. So I have no idea where you are pulling your random ass talking points out of.

Because this is a pretty bog standard “We have had a troubled development cycle and our publisher/parent company is cutting their losses”

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

strange, seems to be a country related thing. Working as an UI designer in germany and tech companies here are doubling down on “work wherever the fuck you want”…

My company has offered it from the beginning of covid and did not change it at all and my latest job offers included a 100% work from home option and also a few startet to offer a 4 days week with the compensation of 5 days.

dragonator001,

I am from India. My cousin’s job is entirely WFH, and as you said they’ve doubled down on it. India is also infamous for ‘meatshop’-esque IT industry and the biggest of them have forced people to office again, even though they could work from home. I am somewhere in the middle and they are slowly reducing WFH days, I can still work at the least 10 days from home a month, but that’s not a lot.

deadcream,

Maybe it's a corpo thing, how big is your company?

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Well you’re not in It, you’re a dev. So you’re in a way more privileged position.

GrindingGears, do gaming w Capcom President Says ‘Game Prices Are Too Low’

I’m already 50% of the time on my ship to the seven seas. Do they want me permanently at sea? Same goes with the media companies like Disney+, Netflix and Amazon. They push it any further, I’m pushing off to seas for good.

They *literally, figured out how to beat piracy. The unbeatable problem. And then they had to go and blow it with their greed.

Meh. Capcom games just became $0 for me, because I’ll swear an oath before you to pirate every one of their games, from here on out.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Inflation is a fact of life. Is a price that raises ever all it takes for you to decide to pirate? Did you do so when games increased from $50 to $60?

TwilightVulpine,

Poverty is also a fact of life. Not everyone can afford every price increase.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Capcom hasn't even raised prices yet, and this person just swore an oath of piracy rather than waiting for a sale or something.

TwilightVulpine,

Maybe they've already been buying on sales.

I'm from a third world country. I still buy games as often as I can, but I also get that these price hikes are stretching people thin. A $70 game is like a third of our monthly minimum wage, it's a huge chunk of money that people need to live, and most companies don't bother to adjust it proportionally to our financial situation, even though there is no reason not to do so when it comes to digital media.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

That person just said in another comment that they have the money. Before you even get to piracy, there's also the option of purchasing and playing the games that you feel are priced fairly, because that incentivizes more of that to be made at those prices, and those games typically need your money more anyway. As for adjusting prices for different territories, I'm no expert on it, but I understand it might be related to people in stronger economies buying games from cheaper regions with something as simple as a VPN to get a game for a fraction of the price, which at any kind of scale means that that game needs to sell substantially more copies to break even.

TwilightVulpine,

Some companies still manage to offer regional prices. It's more of a matter of poor implementation or even plain indifference. The latter especially when the platform offers that option but the publisher maintains the prices high.

Eh, I won't speak for that person's habits but for me piracy was not the last possible resort but rather the entry point that allowed me to develop enough interest that I do buy them today.

And when today the "free" options peddle gambling to children, I cannot take the moral argument seriously even for a second. I would much sooner have people pirate than develop gambling addictions, the publishers be damned.

GrindingGears,

That’s just it. First off, I rarely am interested in Capcom games, think the last one I bought was in maybe 2016? (RE7). So this person you are responding to really is going off the handle over a nothing burger, I assure you.

But you’ve hit on an important point, that’s important to discuss. These price hikes are disproportionate to the growth of household earnings, and more importantly, digital media was supposed to drive costs down, and not up for the end consumer. We don’t actually own these games, we more or less lease them. There’s nothing physical anymore. Which is a problem. Not that I don’t like the ease of digital purchases, it’s the fact that at any moment I can be stripped of access to the product. Which makes it a lease or rental, not full ownership. Yet they keep wanting to drive the costs up up up, in light of that fact. It’s getting to be gross behaviour. The products are declining in quality, the costs keep going up, actual ownership of the end product comes into question, and the profits keep going to a smaller and smaller circle of people, some of whom are among the most vile of people alive today.

Enough is enough.

NuPNuA,

It sucks that skinflints in the west region hopping to save a few bob made companies wary of regional pricing in the digital age.

GrindingGears,

Nope. I only pirate when media companies can’t stop gorging themselves on billions of dollars in profit and shovelling shares and dollar bills down their greedy little throats.

It’s not that I don’t have the money, I’ve just had enough. When you had one of two streaming services and a Spotify and good prices on steam and whatnot, that worked.

Today we have preorders that eclipse 100 dollars, my streaming service bills are more than the cable bills they were supposed to be replacing, and now it’s just more more more. We want more more more

🖕

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Two streaming services is less competitive than the 5 or 6 major ones we have right now, you can choose them a la carte in a way you never could with cable, and even if you felt compelled to have all of them at the ad free tier, you're paying less than cable and getting no commercials. Video game prices have lagged behind inflation, not even kept up with them, and the game you want will probably have a substantial sale 3 months after release anyway. It just seems like an incredibly thin premise to justify piracy.

GrindingGears,

I don’t need to justify piracy to you. You are the one that’s morally outraged here. Again, I have the money, it’s not a poverty thing. It’s a perception thing. When people act gross, I act gross in response. Plain and simple. You can try to defend these companies, some of which have larger profits than the GDP outputs of some countries, all you want. That’s your prerogative. When companies put greed before the goodwill of the customers, which this is by the way, then I act shitty in response. That’s my prerogative.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

You were morally outraged enough to decide that this justifies piracy, but this is Capcom we're talking about, not EA. From what I can see, they're not making their money off of gambling mechanics like Ultimate Team. They're talking about raising prices on products that are generally seen as quality and charging what they believe those products to be worth, even saying that this will allow them to raise staff salaries to retain talent. I don't condone piracy, but I was asking you what line you believed they crossed when price increases are just inevitable for anything that costs money, and I personally don't really see any scummy business practices attached to this. Beyond that, I'd also argue that you have a greater effect on the market when you just don't pirate or play those games that offend you at all and instead direct your time and money to a game that could use it more. That means they make more of the latter and the former is less successful for doing something you didn't like. Word of mouth of the games you played and the lack of word of mouth for the ones you didn't has an effect on the market as well.

NuPNuA,

I agree you don’t have to justify it, but I also feel like you don’t need to glorify it either. I’m not morally opposed to it and jah knows I’ve don’t some piracy in my day, but people who have to make a big statement about it as you’ve done above invite the arguments from people who are morally opposed.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

Having 5 streaming services instead of 2 when they each have exclusive content isn’t competition, it’s just separate small monopolies. They hold the content hostage and you can’t actually choose when you want to watch something specific.

It’d only be competitive if they all had the same catalogue or you didn’t care at all what you watch, which I suspect just isn’t a reality for most people.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

They're all trying to have enough to watch to keep you subscribed all the time, which means they have an incentive to keep making more good shows. But there's no world where 5 streaming services will have something I'll want to watch every month, so it's pretty easy to just cancel until you've got a handful of shows to go through on that service. Then you subscribe for a month or two and come back later. That's way, way better than a local television monopoly like cable typically had, with channels you couldn't opt out of for a cheaper bill, that still forced commercials on you regardless of your exorbitant bill.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

That’s so convoluted that at that point I can just torrent the show. It’s easier, faster, free and I don’t have to wait for it or try to figure out which streaming service has it.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

That's not convoluted in the least bit, nor is it faster or easier to torrent. If you somehow found out about a show but not which service it was on, there's justwatch.com.

Skyline969,
@Skyline969@lemmy.ca avatar

I didn’t decide to pirate when games went from $70 to $80 (CAD). I didn’t decide to when they went from $80 to $90. I decided to when, on top of that price, I also am encouraged via predatory tactics (such as matchmaking intentionally matching you up with players who have all of this nonsense so you can “see what you’re missing”) to buy a deluxe edition, season pass, monthly battlepass, “cosmetic only” microtransactions, second season pass, additional DLC not part of any season pass, and whatever other crap they want to nickel and dime their playerbase into buying. All just to actually get the full content of the game. Remember when games had the full game when you bought it? Maybe an expansion pack that had a substantial amount of content that was developed and released after the game was released?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

That still happens. But instead of pirating the games that do that stuff, what if you bought and played the ones that don't instead?

Skyline969,
@Skyline969@lemmy.ca avatar

Why not both?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

You're free to do as you please, but if the game wasn't worth it enough to pay for, pirating it still does them more of a solid than if you had bought and played something else. Let's say the game is Starfield. Sure, they didn't get your $90 if you pirated it, but if you're contributing to discussions about it, it keeps people thinking about it, and especially if you have positive things to say about it, you end up encouraging other people to buy it, which means that their business strategy of selling the game at $90 CAD (or any other strategy you decided justified piracy) is still that much more effective, and they'll do it again, because the game sold at that price. But maybe Broken Roads comes out for cheaper and you get your RPG fix there instead. They could use your dollar more, and each sale counts way more toward a future where that team gets to make another game after this one. If your word of mouth instead convinces someone to pick up Broken Roads (which you also hypothetically paid for), you're contributing toward encouraging more games to come out at that price point. Both games are going to take up your finite time, so both your time and your money influence what survives in the market.

SnotFlickerman, do games w The First Borderlands Movie Clip Looks Like An SNL Skit
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

After how expertly Fallout nailed its landing by using literal assets from the game for set design…

Yeah this is gonna flop hard.

djsoren19,

It blows my mind that we’re still getting uninspired shitty adaptations after Fallout, The Last of Us, honestly even stuff like Sonic and Mario showed suits that people will praise any adaptation as long as it shows them what they know.

CrabAndBroom, do gaming w Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5

For me, it was:

  • You couldn’t get one for ages when it came out, so I missed the initial hype period.
  • When it did finally become available, it was prohibitively expensive.
  • There are no real killer exclusives or features so no particular reason to upgrade, aside from games looking nicer.
  • Sony is releasing all the good stuff on PC now, so if I want to play a nicer-looking version of a PS4 game I can just do that.
  • Steam Deck
CloutAtlas, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

Todd Howard: we hear you fans, we are currently working on updates for Morrowind, Starfield and Elder Scrolls Online which will break add-on/mod support and ruin the frame rate for those games instead of just FO4!

VulKendov,
@VulKendov@reddthat.com avatar

Elder Scrolls Online isn’t a Bethesda (BGS) game.

jsomae,

I’d be thrilled to get another Morrowind expansion.

Paradoxvoid,
@Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone avatar

Too bad, you get a battlepass instead!

zeerphling,
@zeerphling@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Are you familiar with Tamriel Rebuilt? The team has been adding content to the mainland of Morrowind for 20 years. They’re technically not finished, but there’s plenty to do.

There’s also Project: Tamriel with Skyrim: Home of the Nords and Province: Cyrodiil. There’s not as much content as Tamriel Rebuilt, but all are being actively worked on.

jsomae,

Yes! Tamriel rebuilt is really cool.

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

A racist a transphobe and an antisemite walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says “aren’t you that girl who wrote HP?”

JQ Lolling stares unflinchingly ahead and states “Your teacher, Professor Eleazar Fig, dies at the end of Hogwarts Legacy. This happens in all possible endings and can’t be changed. Oh and Rookwood is the one who cursed Anne while the goblins were framed. Also, you’re also required to quell a slave uprising and you have no choice in the matter.”

GBU_28, do games w Steam’s Most-Hyped Zombie Game Is Out, And It’s A Dumpster Fire

Project zomboid is just fine

bermuda, do gaming w Capcom President Says ‘Game Prices Are Too Low’

Interestingly enough, if the games industry had kept the $60 price point that they fixed back ~2005 up with inflation, games would be costing around $95 today.

Kichae,

Now do 1985.

Never mind, I'll do it myself: NES games were $50, which today is about $185.

NuPNuA,

That’s only because people in the US and Asia overpaid for their games. We weren’t paying that for microcomputer games in Europe.

blindsight,

That puts collecting into context.

Buying almost any game new and holding onto them for decades would be a huge loss, net inflation. Even most “valuable” games would sell at a loss.

TwilightVulpine,

Unfortunately people's wages haven't kept up with inflation either, so that would just be a double whammy of making people who already struggling to pay for essentials pay more for entertainment as well, and at that point I'd think some people would just decide they can keep playing their old games.

brygphilomena, do games w Nintendo switch 2 akin to PS4/XBO power

Are people seriously bitching that a handhelds performance doesn’t match current PlayStation or Xbox specs which are ten times it’s size?

If the switch 2 is a handheld, it has so many more physical, power, and heat constraints and I am impressed that it even matches the previous gens consoles.

colonial, do games w Nintendo switch 2 akin to PS4/XBO power
@colonial@lemmy.world avatar

After seeing the various forms of black magic Nintendo devs have pulled off with what is essentially decade-old tablet hardware… yeah, fine by me.

Lewdiculous, do games w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod

Of course is Kotaku coming with a whole tempest in a teapot over this.

Kotaku is an absolute joke, but that’s not new, they are the laughing stock of game journalism for a reason.

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