I think Pathfinder is as bad of a match for Larian as DnD mechanically speaking. Compare the sheer battlefield joy and chaos of DoS to the austere strictness in BG3. And Pathfinder is in the same vein. Better I think it would be if Larian picks up a setting fitting their humour and shenanigans. Heard good things about Discworld.
Discworld is amazing but not really a great setting for RPGs. The world is just too zany and hodge-podge. Everything I know about fantasy RPG fans tells me that they demand a “serious, rules-based” world.
There was a Discworld point and click adventure game though. The classic roguelike NetHack also has a ton of references to Discworld and a lot of humour and weirdness in general, though that also happens to be one of the things it gets criticized for the most. A Discworld RPG (which is at all faithful to the setting) would basically be NetHack on steroids.
Stormlight Archive would be perfect. Btw, both Mistborn and SA settings are part of the same multiverse, and Mistborn even had a less dark 3-book countinuation placed few hundred years later in largely renewed world during the industrial revolution.
I liked it better than the first one. Imo Mistborn trilogy is second worst Sanderson work after Skyward, and i really like all his books except those two cycles.
I guess people just have different preferences. To me, the chaos of DoS turned rather monotone. You could get rich by betting that every combat encounter would end with half the map on fire. It was a real issue that Larian fixed in bg3 thankfully.
And have you payed pathfinder wrath of the righteous? In my opinion, the combat experience is better than DoS 2 and bg3. I will say that I enjoyed the freedom of movement in DoS 2 though, it made positioning a core part of the combat.
Played a good bit of Kingmaker and while not as refined as WotR I think is very similar. I agree with you that the DoS chaos can be a bit monotone and is too much. But I’d take that over the environmental flatness of other cRPGs.
Environmental flatness isn’t really tied to the game mechanics/rules though. Larian are just using a better engine with a larger budget than their competitors
Discworld might be absolutely genius if done well. And of all the dev studios I believe Larian would be the best pick. Maybe throw in some co-op with Obsidian and I’m sold!
Unpopularopinion posting…. what do you normally like to play? I didnt enjoy BG3 either but I didnt care for the other Baldurs Gate games mostly because of the setting and characters.
It got better once I got plenty of mods. Broken bugs annoyed me like the painters house causing a million rolls or The invisible wall stopping me from crossing the bridge. Maybe I was super unlucky but it ruined the game for me.
I like Deus Ex, in that game things are shown to you without some guy narrating your game telling you what is happening. And Deus Ex was released in the year 2000
I get the BG3 usage of narration due to the DnD setting and DMs narrating the story. Spoon feeding is not acceptable and is insulting to the player. I remember Deus Ex very well along with others like System Shock. The world they put you in can be confusing and unfamiliar at first glance and takes time to get involved in.
As a long time CRPG fan, I was not into it at all. But expressing that you didn’t enjoy it is wrongthink, and the rabid fans will downvote you to oblivion.
Imho the DnD settings kind of held the game back anyway, the combat in Divinity 2 was a lot more fun since they didnt have to constrain themselves to the super basic DnD item system.
I dunno, I like BG3 a lot more than DOS2. I like actually being able to move and not feel like I wasted my turn doing so, and I feel like I get a lot less “fuck! I didn’t want to go there!” situations eating up all my actions in BG3. Having distinct action / bonus action resources, where the latter can be converted into extra movement, is a good system IMO. Now if only they allowed you to use your action as a bonus action if you wanted…
I mean, I loved DOS2 as well, but I definitely think BG3 is the better game. There’s a lot of replayability from the combat in DOS, but the story and characters in BG3 are on a whole different level. DOS2 does definitely rank in my top 5 CRPGs though (BG3, BG2, DOS2, DA:O, and probably NWN would be that full list)
I liked playing DOS2 a lot more than Baldur’s Gate 3 so I hope we get a DOS3 at some point. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I cannot stand spell slots. They’re not a fun or interesting game mechanic to me.
Hasbro is gonna sell to some heartless VC and D&D will be dead as we know it as they try to bleed every last dollar from whoever stays. Sad times ahead. Capitalism strikes again destroying everything we love.
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