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Amaltheamannen, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Would have tried it out if the author wasn’t a transphobic piece of shit. Might pirate it.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

I did. it was alright. Worth it if you want to explore hogwarts and surroundings.

jonsnothere,

It’s not worth it, and while the transphobia is absent, the antisemitism is still there

rainynight65,

Also, the erstwhile lead designer was a far right agitator.

SchizoDenji,

Might pirate it.

Wait till you learn about who cracked that game.

FluffyPotato,

Oh yea Empress may be the most transphobic person alive currently

SchizoDenji,

Not even close tbh. There are middle eastern states that kill Trans people.

FluffyPotato,

I’m pretty sure that if she had the power to do so she would have deathsquads going after anyone remotely suspected of being trans. I was in her telegram group just to watch the crazy unfold and she is absolutely batshit and hates trans people with a burning passion.

Microplasticbrain,

Wtf is wrong with people

marxistsynths19, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

I can’t believe this made so made so much money. If I had a pc, I still wouldn’t pirate it. Millennials need to collectively get over Harry Potter.

Kecessa,

Millennials? Kids under 10 still go batshit for it!

pearsaltchocolatebar,

I can absolutely believe it made that much money.

Grass,

The youngest millennials should be in their 30s. I doubt enough of them have the time or money for this to blame the whole generation.

Pratai,

Sorry, are the neighborhood kids on your yard again?

richmondez,

Yeah people really need to stop having fun in ways I disapprove of, totally with you on that.

GreyEyedGhost,

I’ve seen the movies and read the books, and I’m not a millenial. I also don’t have time to play all the games I’d like to, so I can take a pass on supporting the person spreading hate and occupy my time playing something else, instead.

KeenFlame,

Another way of saying you have deep empathic issues

Russianranger, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

It’s interesting because I swear I buzzed by an article the other day with some eye roll complaint about there being too many games, and that’s why it was hard for games to sell.

There are a lot of games, but it means that people want to engage with games that are actually fun and aren’t soulless cash grabs or half baked early access with no real value or fun.

It’s just the basic “quality versus quantity” principle. Instead of shoveling out crap like Rise of Kong, Gollum, The Day Before, etc etc, just focus your efforts on a single good game. The only recent exception to this rule I guess would be Starfield, but that’s for Bethesda to figure out on how to salvage.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Speaking of salvage…at this point I think Bethesda themselves might be worth salvage value at this point. If they were willing to release a turd like Starfield, imagine what they’ll do to TES VI.

Iapar,

Turds eat shit part six.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Whoa whoa whoa…when did Todd Howard become the protagonist?

Russianranger,

Yeah… I don’t have high hopes for TESVI. After FO76 and Starfield, they’ve got a lot of trust to win back. I expect it to be the following;

  • Slow rise in hype after 2025
  • Sharp rise in hype within year of release
  • Honeymoon phase for first 5 days after release, criticism drowned out by fan boys
  • Collective realization the game is shit with only the most delusional still protecting/coping

That’s basically what happened with Starfield, and unless they prove otherwise, it’s what I expect for TESVI

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve started turning more and more to indie games now, and I’ve found quite a few games I’ve loved that way. Deep Rock Galactic, Streets of Rogue, Valheim (before realising it’s abandonware)…honestly, good fucking riddance to the consoles who make it impossible to enjoy games by smaller studios.

Russianranger,

Same. Indie games and emulators is what I’ve been putting a lot of my time into. I’ve learned that “AAA” studios are a lot like their alkaline counterparts - basically obsolete.

Valheim I agree. I did get a ton of enjoyment out of it on release, so it’s not really a matter of disappointment in the sense of fun per dollar, just disappointment in the glacial pace of updates. My feeling is that the Devs got their bag, then decided to just coast. It makes me wonder that if it didn’t explode in sales at the start, would they have put more effort into updates or would they have just given up. Guess we’ll never truly know

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

I think that’s going to be the big one in terms of changing the pattern of early purchases. It will also make it much harder for future indie devs to sell their games, which really fucking sucks.

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

A racist a transphobe and an antisemite walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says “aren’t you that girl who wrote HP?”

JQ Lolling stares unflinchingly ahead and states “Your teacher, Professor Eleazar Fig, dies at the end of Hogwarts Legacy. This happens in all possible endings and can’t be changed. Oh and Rookwood is the one who cursed Anne while the goblins were framed. Also, you’re also required to quell a slave uprising and you have no choice in the matter.”

Secret300, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

I think that’s a good idea. There are so many games coming out all the time and if they spend more resources on a single game it’ll be better. Right?

CptEnder,

Eh. Hopefully this doesn’t include their 2DHD department. Those are probably classified as low budget but are by far and away the best games they make rn.

BumpingFuglies, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

indie

You keep using that word, AAA developer/publisher Square Enix. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Haha, they probably means the smaller games they release. Like that “Various Daylife”, what to call these games? They aren’t AAA or AA.

angrytoadnoises, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller
@angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml avatar

HogLeg’s success is pretty crazy if you think about it. Ignoring the sales we’ve looking at today, take yourself back to the launch of HogLeg. It kept up pace with Fallout 4 in terms of active players and achievement completion rates. This is huge to me. They’re both singleplayer RPGs, so they’re both vying for the same type of audience. *But.*Fallout 4 was a hugely anticipated sequel to one of the most renowned series in all of gaming. Harry Potter had almost no presence in gaming beyond nostalgic shovel ware titles.

Fallout 4 was developed by gaming darlings, a company known for producing huge open worlds with strong volumes of content. HogLeg was developed by shovelware developers with no major releases in their history.

Fallout 4 is a first person looter shooter, one of the most ubiquitous and successful genres out there. HogLeg is an action roleplaying game, still admittedly a safe genre but doesn’t have the genre conventions that makes it possible for anyone with FPS experience to pick up a Fallout.

And finally, Fallout 4 targeted gamers. It’s a gamer’s game, you know? It’s for lore nerds and RPG fans and tacticool nuts and all the rest. HogLeg was for Harry Potter fans. It needed to drag fans across media types to secure a big enough audience.

I truly, truly did not expect HogLeg to find the success it has. And to be honest, it’s quite a mid game! It’s a visual accomplishment and adherence to the universe means that it’s a treat for any Harry Potter nerds, but the rest of the game is as close as generic as it could get.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

Wow. Good comparison. Didn't realize how close they were. In both being average games too.

SkyNTP,

And finally, Fallout 4 targeted gamers. It’s a gamer’s game, you know? It’s for lore nerds and RPG fans and tacticool nuts and all the rest. HogLeg was for Harry Potter fans. It needed to drag fans across media types to secure a big enough audience.

This is… perhaps, the very formula for its success. Perhaps the gaming crowd isn’t that big. Perhaps, HL was not chained to a particular demographic and instead had the freedom to appeal to a wider audience.

I know of people who picked up a controller for the first time in their life because HL was a Harry Potter game… just saying.

WitchHazel,

Yeah, I feel like their logic is circular. Choosing to actively ignore the fact that the game is based off one of the most popular book series in the entire world is frustratingly dense, and feels like they’re stanning for the sake of it. From what I understand, the game is ridiculously repetitive, and is genuinely riding solely off of the popularity of the book series.

PhiAU, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

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  • ShortN0te,

    Hogwarts Legacy is not Game of the year…

    reactive_recall, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    What’s the game shown in the thumbnail?

    Cavemanfreak,

    FF VII

    Caligvla, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better
    @Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games

    Oh please, go ahead, your garbage won’t be missed!

    Pratai, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    Might have to check this out!

    TubeTalkerX, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    Yeah that’s working out so well for the big Hollywood Studios. Put all their eggs in 1 or 2 Big Summer Blockbusters and hope they pay off.

    mindbleach, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    If buying isn’t ownership then piracy isn’t theft.

    teawrecks,

    Buying a CD/DVD was never ownership of the media that’s on it. It’s ownership of a piece of plastic and a license to play to the content on the plastic within certain limitations. If it was ownership, you would be allowed to project the DVD on a wall and charge patrons to view it, but legally you can’t, because you don’t own anything but the plastic. Buying a CD/DVD was always just a more convenient version of buying a ticket to a concert/theater to see the same thing. You’re paying for the experience of viewing their artwork.

    So, as long as you also agree that sneaking into a concert/theater to view a show without paying also isn’t theft in any way, then I can’t argue.

    mindbleach,

    Blah blah blah. Shove that copyright-maximalist take. You own things, god dammit. Even if you only own your copy of a book, it’s not somehow an ink-and-paper license to a copy, it is your copy. That’s what ownership means.

    If you don’t know the difference between individual property and intellectual property, stop spitting at people who do.

    teawrecks,

    Just want to highlight how unnecessarily antagonistic your response was. Not sure if that was your intention, but I don’t care to engage with it. Cheers.

    mindbleach,

    Blunt rejection of scolding is not where the problem started.

    wildginger,

    The irony is immense.

    teawrecks,

    If you think I’ve been antagonistic, please let me know how. I’m here to have a productive discussion, but so far I’m here by myself.

    wildginger,

    You could start by actually making an attempt at good faith discussion, instead of pedantic attempts to hide from the point.

    But we both know you dont want to do that, because youre not actually here for productive discussion.

    teawrecks,

    I respectfully disagreed with the top level post, and stated facts about why. If that was interpreted as not in good faith, I’m sorry, and I’m open to any counter arguments. So far, two people have pointed out that physical media can’t remotely have their licenses revoked, and I agree, that is relevant to the discussion. If you have anything relevant you’d like to contribute, I’m all ears.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    antagonistic

    You’re replying to everyone in this thread with half-assed insults and underhanded comments and then playing victim and complaining about how “nobody wants to discuss this in good faith”.

    teawrecks,

    If you think I’ve been antagonistic, please let me know how.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    I think you’re a passive aggressive blowhard. I don’t think you’re being antagonistic although I could picture you wanting to be if that makes sense.

    teawrecks,

    although I could picture you wanting to be if that makes sense.

    From my perspective, it sounds like you’re reading my posts with an unwarranted intention behind them. I have to assume this stems from you disagreeing with what I am saying, but to my knowledge, nothing I’ve said is incorrect. If you could point to something I’ve said that’s incorrect, I’d be glad to discuss it. Also, if you could refrain from the namecalling, that would also be appreciated.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    Long winded and pointless. Very consistent.

    SocialMediaRefugee,

    I think his point in this case is you own the physical item but not the information on it. If not then I could buy some musician’s cd then I could say “Now I own their music” and start selling copies of their cd, publishing it, stealing their rights to it, etc. I think we can all agree that would be bad.

    mindbleach,

    ‘No, see, he meant exactly what you thought he meant.’

    Again: I know the difference between individual property and intellectual property. I am condemning the corporate word-games that would deny one of those exists, and the the tutting of people who take that for granted. I don’t need a fucking primer.

    CallumWells,

    Yes, you own the information on it. You don’t own the rights to distribute it to others, but you bought the information and the right to personally use it. When you buy a painting, do you only have a licence to view it?

    teawrecks,

    When you buy a painting, do you only have a license to view it?

    That’s a good question. My guess is that the rights to create prints of the painting usually remain with the artist. You own that painting, you probably even own the right to display it for an entry fee, but unless the artist has granted you a license to the artwork, I don’t think you can freely create copies.

    CallumWells,

    Indeed, the right to make copies are often licenced (although you can also sell that right) because it is explicitly written in some conventions (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention?useskin=ve…) that the copyright resides with the creator to begin with. I don’t think the Berne Convention deals with the option of transferring intellectual property and the copyright to them, but I’m assuming it’s mostly defined well enough in some contract law or other.

    teawrecks,

    I think we can all agree that would be bad.

    You’d be surprised. There seem to be vanishingly few people here willing to honestly discuss the legal questions around piracy and copyright. The vast majority are just here to circle jerk about how much corporations suck, completely forgetting about the rights of artists they’re defending in the anti-AI circle jerk one thread over. I honestly think they spend more time flaming anything they disagree with than actually putting any thought into the matter. The dogmatism rivals that of conservative forums.

    haui_lemmy,

    We found the record company shill.

    I‘m all for sneaking into concerts and everything else since ticketmaster is trying to wring every penny out of customers.

    All those leeches can die in a hole.

    teawrecks,

    I‘m all for sneaking into concerts and everything else

    Then as I said, I can’t argue.

    But you should keep this in mind when you go to the next thread and join the anti-AI circle jerk, pretending to defend artists for upvotes.

    phillaholic,

    The record company can’t disable my physical CD from working if they choose to. That’s 99% of the point.

    teawrecks,

    That’s a fair distinction. Congrats, I’m finding there are very few people willing to engage in productive discussion on here.

    wildginger,

    You arent actually putting forward a productive premise, of course no one is treating it as such

    teawrecks,

    If I’ve said something false, let me know. As far as I’m aware, what I’ve said is how the law works (at least in the US). I understand if you don’t like those laws, but that doesn’t make them not exist, nor does it make them irrelevant when someone makes a reductive statement like “if buying isn’t ownership, then piracy isn’t stealing”. The fact is, in some cases, it is.

    wildginger,

    Nice, more bad faith misinterpreting of the point

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    So how many plays do I get with the media license that comes with a CD?

    Worried they’ll revoke my license on my blues traveler CD that’s been stuck in my car since '99.

    teawrecks,

    Yep, this is a valid point. The volatility of access seems to be a convenient side effect of modern streaming technology. I agree that there needs to be regulation around this as it’s currently too easy for a company to suddenly say “we’re pulling access to the thing you paid for right now, sorrynotsorry”.

    It’s not reasonable to expect that they have to have servers available serving the content 24/7 indefinitely, but either govts need to force companies to clearly label access to digital media as some sort of “rental agreement” similarly to how renting a video on youtube or amazon works, and making it clear that the user will only be able to access the stream for a minimum of some specified amount of time, and/or they should be required to offer a download of the media for a certain amount of time.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    “volatility of access” implies a lack of intent.

    This isn’t a side effect of streaming technology, they could let me download content on my NAS and burn my own discs but they don’t because their goal is profiteering and NOT serving the best content in an open technological environments.

    “Corporate enshittification and commodity fraud” is a more apt term.

    teawrecks,

    “Fraud” would imply a crime. I’m always happy when some european country has a law on the book that enables people to hold a company accountable for their shitty behavior, but in the US, we have some work to do there.

    “Enshittification” is a…surface-level description of what is happening. I’m more interested in the “how we got here” and “what needs to happen to prevent it”. Because no company has “make the experience objectively shittier” on their list of new features. Blaming “enshittification” holds as much weight to me as blaming “the deep state”. It’s not a real thing, it’s just how you perceive the emergent result of a system with certain rules and incentives. The real question is, which rules and incentives should we prioritize, and how can those changes most effectively be implemented.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    I’m not blaming “enshittification”. This IS enshittification.

    I blame shareholders and greedy C level executives. You know, the ones who make these types of decisions to milk customers for the bottom line.

    Just move on if you want to debate, these are facts and I don’t have time to defend reality from your contrarian garbage.

    teawrecks,

    I think we agree and could learn from each other, but I agree, I don’t think that’s in the cards here. Have a good one.

    TheAnonymouseJoker,

    Not true. You get personal ownership of the media in it, and even if ripped, you can personally keep it without “unauthorised distribution”. These were the 2 keywords they used to use on the rim of every disc. DRM implementations were a method to prevent ripping, but ripping always happens with DVDFab.

    Streaming prevents that ripping part, or having it on your personal storage, and the ability to play it forever without an expiration date. The obvious purpose behind it is to gatekeep any media to repeatedly buy it and “consoom”. And some of the streaming DRM these days (fuck you Netutv/hqq) prevents 1:1 stream ripping, so screen recording is the only way, or using a HDMI cable with recording output capabilities.

    TSG_Asmodeus, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    One thing I read (a lot, oddly) is that GamePass is ‘really popular’/the most popular ‘subscription’ service, but I have never met anyone who uses it.

    I checked the numbers of people using GamePass, and it seems the numbers have gone:

    2021 - 23 million

    2022 - 25 million

    2023 - there was a brief post on linkedin saying 30 million, but it was removed.

    If even the most popular service is struggling to pass 30 million users, how exactly is Ubisoft going to compete? There’s what, 120 million people with Xbox subscriptions, and they can barely get 1/4 of them to use GamePass?

    It’s interesting to watch ‘AAA’ studios absolutely faceplanting every year now, hopefully we can make a full indie-sweep soon.

    NoSpiritAnimal,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    I use gamepass. I’ve definitely saved money with the amount of games my household has played.

    I buy games I really like and just try them on gamepass.

    TSG_Asmodeus, (edited )

    The reason people I know tend to give for not using GamePass is you’re essentially paying for demos (which still exist on PC pretty often. I just bought Roboquest because of the demo.)

    EDIT: Also, $12/month is a huge amount of money for me to spend on something like that. Just shy of 150/year for games that aren’t good enough to own, but are good enough to play, doesn’t strike me as valuable.

    NoSpiritAnimal,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    2 other people play on my account from sub accounts on the console. They each play multiple games per month. $12 is less than $60, so even a single new game each month saves me money.

    Paying for demos? I’m not sure why you think there aren’t any good games on there. Halo, Starfield, Fallout, Cities Skylines, Forza, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Far Cry, Assassins Creed, Yakuza, Dead Space, blah blah blah.

    And that’s not including all the smaller games my kids have found. Human Fall Flat, Rubber Bandits, Donut County, Frog Detective are all games we found that we otherwise would never have spent money on.

    I don’t support subscription only models, but that doesn’t mean some aspects aren’t a good value.

    TSG_Asmodeus,

    If the games stayed I’d check it out, but having a game for a few months isn’t something I find value in, which tends to be what people I’ve spoken with about it. Especially since you don’t choose the games.

    Also, seriously the PC app is absolutely awful. The games work worse on it than on steam. It crashes, has terrible performance, and break installs constantly.

    You also can’t mod a lot of these games, which particularly on PC is a pretty large missing piece.

    That’s also not to mention the cost has doubled in two years.

    You’re allowed to enjoy it, but I think it’s also clear why it isn’t taking off.

    badaboomxx,

    All of my cousins and friends have this, becaude they don’t care if they own the games.

    I think.that most peple like it, I don’t have ultimate, because I.like to own my games.

    spez_,

    All my friends have it. They just want to play the game once and move on

    Squizzy,

    My issue with getting into indie gaming is I have no idea where to start. I always end up with some frantic platformer that doesn’t do anything for me. But I just want games that aren’t a mess on release and everyone says to go indie.

    TSG_Asmodeus,

    I just go by reviews, usually from people I know. The only real difference between AA/A and Indie titles now really is marketing budget and size of team. Not much else is different. You also run into issues about what counts as indie now: it used to mean without a publisher, but it seems to have morphed into ‘a smaller company.’

    But yeah, just look up reviews. Games like FTL, Hades, and so on tend to become known by word of mouth.

    Xanvial, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    Number 5 in switch after just a few weeks is crazy

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