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olicvb, (edited ) do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
@olicvb@lemmy.ca avatar

Always suprised when I remember that WatchDogs 2 is from Ubisoft. Such a well made game, i played the crap out of it twice

Edit: awe man Steep was super fun too

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Did we play the same game?

olicvb,
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Maybe they fixed it? I didn’t play day 1 so I’m not sure how it was then (played maybe 2-3 years after it’s release)

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I just found it soul less and unbalanced. But then again I was going into it early when they where still calling it the “GTA killer”.

Zahille7,

That was my experience. Got it at GameStop in sale after it had released, played through the whole thing, then I went and played the first one.

I think I like the second better, but the first one is good for what it is.

I never played Legion.

lud,

I played it a few months after launch due to the gaming being included with my GPU and I really enjoyed it.

bitwolf,

I wanted to like Steep but the Controller experience, even on the Steam deck is so horrible I didn’t last a full hour

olicvb,
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I know there are some changes you can do in settings. I mostly did snowboarding and since I snowboard irl I found the controls were close to how you’d control your feet on an actual board. So that probably helped ^^

But rider’s republic mixed it all up so I get what you mean

EncryptKeeper, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

What it really comes down to is that this type of “safe” game design where you rehash the same game over and over again for 20 years thing used to make a shitload of money, that’s why they all do it, and now it doesn’t. Or at least, they’re discovering that there’s a mathematical maximum amount of times you can rehash something without innovating. And not doing that is too huge a pivot for a huge lumbering company like Ubsioft to make on a reasonable timescale.

This is what’s supposed to happen though. When not enough people buy games to make them profitable, the games have to change, or Ubisoft goes under. Either is fine.

frezik,

And I feel like half of that 20 years was based on FOMO. “I better get the next Assassin’s Creed or I’ll miss out”, and then it’s all the same crap but they still sold a million of them. People do eventually wise up to FOMO.

delitomatoes,

Miss out on what? Unity was a buggy mess on launch, skip, the British one was a snorefest. By the time of the reboots, Ghost of Tsushima, Elden Ring and BotW already came out

p03locke,
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Well, it also doesn’t help how much they are “accidentally” insulting multiple racial groups trying to make an Assassins’ Creed game.

EncryptKeeper,

I don’t think they’re doing that.

p03locke,
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helenslunch,
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Honestly the quality of games is the tip of the iceberg.

JusticeForPorygon, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

“The Board has investigated itself and found no evidence of incompetence.”

scrubbles,
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Nah in this case this is real. The board is investigating the executive leadership, two separate entities. It’s like corporate investigating stores management, in a way. This could mean executives getting fired

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Good fuck em

P1nkman,

They’ll get payouts which is more money than you and I will ever make combined. I’m hungry. When do we eat?

hdnsmbt, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

Nah, this is about money. They’ll definitely find a group of underpaid employees to fire.

RvTV95XBeo,

They’ll fire the developers that implemented the unpopular features (that they didn’t want to build in the first place but were forced upon them from executives, who, by the way, are due for their end of year bonuses!!)

intensely_human, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

it’s always really annoying when there’s the assumption that the existing team is not aware of and trying to fix problems. I hate when I have a problem and I’m taking steps to fix it and then somebody else steps in to say “let’s figure out how to fix your problem”.

AFC1886VCC, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

Maybe they should try not making crap games. All that money and they can’t get decent voice actors or writers.

helenslunch, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
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This is going to be one of those “Ubisoft investigates Ubisoft and found that Ubisoft did nothing wrong at Ubisoft”-situations, isn’t it?

No, this is going to be one of those “our stocks are tanking and investors want someone’s head on a pike” sort of meeting.

pyre,

after careful consideration of the management decisions that brought us here, we concluded that 1600 layoffs of low level employees is the solution. those who stay will crunch harder for the same pay to make up for any lost labor so we can keep churning out slop that definitely has nothing to do with our crisis.

ichbinjasokreativ, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
  1. fire all DEI consultants
  2. get rid of woke writers
  3. stop making everything live service
  4. give devs more time to optimize
  5. don’t overmonetize your games

literally all they need to do. If you make games that people actually want to play, then people will buy them. And if you want to have lgbtq characters, then do it like borderlands 2, that game got it right in 2012.

Carighan,
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Why would firing DEI consultants improve the work?

And if you want to have lgbtq characters, then do it like borderlands 2, that game got it right in 2012.

In what particular way do they differ?

ichbinjasokreativ,

Because things like black protagonists with hip-hop music in the background make no sense in a feudal japanese setting and people are sick of games being abused as vehicles for morality preaching.

An example from borderlanfs two could be Sir Hammerlock, who was introduced as a normal (for borderlands) character early on and later in a side quest was revealed to be gay in passing. That’s the kind of ‘representation’ you want for lgbtq to be “normalized”. In modern games, his story would be one of struggle against straight white oppressors at the end of which there would be a five minute long cutscene in which everybody turns to the camera and informs the player that being gay is normal and that prejudice is bad and that straight white people are inherently evil. I’m overexagerating (spelling?) of course, but you get the point.

Carighan,
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Because things like black protagonists with hip-hop music in the background make no sense in a feudal japanese setting and people are sick of games being abused as vehicles for morality preaching.

But games about dudes in medieval-looking sci-fo power armor stomping around WW1-styled soldiers do?

And that doesn’t preach any morals? But a black guy in a samurai setting does? How come one does, but the other does not?

Also…

An example from borderlanfs two could be Sir Hammerlock, who was introduced as a normal (for borderlands) character early on and later in a side quest was revealed to be gay in passing.

Maybe don’t make it as readily apparent how much you internalized gayness being abnormal. Telling. You wouldn’t write sentences like this if that wasn’t a normal thought process for you, since you did probably not have to actively consider your wording.

ichbinjasokreativ,

Bullshit. Normalization means not making a big deal out of it, which goes contrary to the woke standard of putting it front and center.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

But like you say, if you want to normalize it, shouldn’t it be front and center then? Since that’s part of being normal, also being front and center?

ichbinjasokreativ,

It cannot be front and center and normal at the same time. It cannot be the main part of a character’s identity, else it will always be perceived as “special” and “extra”, but not “normal”. Devs can make whatever game with whatever chars they want ofc, but the result is what we’re seeing with ubisoft.

I’m just ranting at this point.

Carighan,
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It cannot be front and center and normal at the same time.

Why not? If it’s normal, any possible identity and any possible element will be front and center every so often, no? That’s what normality means after all? Something has to be front and center, and if everything is normal, everything will appear there repeatedly?

AFC1886VCC,

You’ll get nowhere with these people and their epic Olympic level mental gymnastics. Ultimately, only heterosexual white male characters are allowed to play prominent roles in video games.

ichbinjasokreativ,

I’m not saying that lgbtq characters cannot play prominent roles, I’m saying that people will roll their eyes if being lgbtq is their primary attribute.

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

Every day I grow more and more tired of you braindead idiots.

ichbinjasokreativ,

funny, given that most gamers seem to agree with me, according to sales numbers. Noone wants this shit in games. Perhaps we’re not the problem.

frostmore,

last time i wrote something similar to yours,the left wing nutjobs came rushing in,guns blazing.

god damn wokies.

ichbinjasokreativ,

Yup.

frostmore, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

they can start by just making games as gamers want it,not inserting lame ass political agendas in their games or hire politically correct nutjobs to determine how games should be inclusive.

grayhaze,
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What you mean is making games how you want them to be, not the overwhelming majority of gamers. Stop thinking everything is an agenda designed to limit your freedom.

frostmore,

ubisoft stock price plummeting,black myth wukong having more players than star wars franchise,game with DEI rubbish tanking or having little to no players,yea majority have spoken alright.

grayhaze,
@grayhaze@lemmy.world avatar

I just need you to say the word woke now, and I’ll have completed my incel bingo card.

frostmore,

lol,cope and seethe.

newthrowaway20, do games w Ubisoft Says That XDefiant Has Fallen Behind Expectations

Got to be honest, this is the first I’ve even heard of this game.

SomethingBurger,

XDefiant sounds like an anticheat.

newthrowaway20,

Or a Wrestling Faction from the late 90’s

kat_angstrom, do games w Ubisoft Says That XDefiant Has Fallen Behind Expectations

That seems to be a problem with their expectations, not the game.

simple,

It’s also a problem that it’s exclusive to the Ubisoft launcher and isn’t on Steam…

PopOfAfrica,

I was going to play it, but poor linix compatibility with the ubisoft launcher killed that for me.

stardust,

It was enough to make me too lazy to bother even when the hype was there. Now it seems even the community that plays/played it is negative on it so even less likely to bother with Ubisoft launcher for it than at launch. I have UPlay installed too, but I don’t even know if anyone in my friend list from Steam was playing it compared to other games that they are shown playing.

slaacaa,

You are actually right. I tried this game as a friend liked it, and it basically does everything that COD does, but for free, so it’s not the worst way for somebody to spend their time online. Still, I imagine Ubi execs promised to dethrone every other shooter and have 100 million payers to milk for MTX.

garretble, do games w Ubisoft Says That XDefiant Has Fallen Behind Expectations
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

The market is so saturated with these type of shooters — especially ones with generic army dudes.

I’m not really surprised.

ChicoSuave, do games w Ubisoft Says That XDefiant Has Fallen Behind Expectations

Have they stopped using their launcher? The only way I will ever play an Ubisoft game is if they ditch that jank ass launcher.

PunchingWood,

I’m legitimately wondering what’s so incredibly bad about the Ubi launcher that people hate it so much?

I’m not a fan of each brand having their own thing, I’d rather have everything in my Steam library or some other universal launcher (not GOG).

But I never had issues with Ubi’s launchers, despite having played a lot of Ubi games on there.

VonReposti,

Anything that isn’t Steam works like shit on Linux (mileage may vary, but that’s my experience). I find it hilarious and sad that I can get a better experience by pirating it and launch through Lutris.

PunchingWood,

That’s another thing I always wondered about, gaming on Linux.

I always thought of Linux of a tweaker/programmer kind of platform that isn’t much into gaming. Much like Apple being for creatives, music and Adobe. Even though all that runs fine on Windows too. That gaming on either is an entirely optional at-your-own-risk kind of deal, since a lot of games don’t support Linux/Mac natively anyway.

If one wants to play games a lot, why not simply get a Windows PC? Or a console for that matter.

No offense, but I always felt like wanting to game on Linux or Mac is just handicapping oneself.

omarfw,

because windows is doing everything in their power to ruin their OS with privacy violations and ads. I would switch to Linux yesterday if my favorite games worked on it.

PunchingWood,

If everything ran just as well as it would on Windows I would switch too. But I think that will be a long time off, even if developers decided to natively develop for Linux. It seems better than like a decade ago, but development and support is really slow.

That said, I’ve been using W11 for a couple of years and I haven’t run into any ads in my day-to-day office and home computers, I’ve seen others mention ads in Windows too, but I’m not sure where they are. And you could just use a fake e-mail and name for a Microsoft account if you need one for a Windows installation.

I’m not saying everyone should use Windows, but choosing gaming on Linux seems like it’s just people making it very difficult for themselves. Last time I ever tried it was a long time ago, but there were constant hardware issues, driver issues, game crashes and other problems that I could just not be bothered.

Katana314,

The Lutris launcher has helped me successfully play purchased Ubisoft games well. It sucks to rely on third party tools, but that’s much of what Linux is based around.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Ubi’s launcher and EA app, are the only ones that keep forgetting my login info, forcing me to painstakingly go to my email to authorize this brand new device (my own PC) every few weeks.

PunchingWood,

I remember both doing the same for me a long time ago. But I’ve not had the issue since their new launchers dropped I believe.

QuantumEyetanglement,

Why not GOG?

PunchingWood,

I’d just prefer a platform that isn’t also another store. But I’m unsure if those exist.

Rentlar, do games w Ubisoft Says That XDefiant Has Fallen Behind Expectations

Not even enticing people with “free premium currency” just for logging in could entice me to play an Ubisoft shooter.

FeelzGoodMan420, do games w Ubisoft Says That XDefiant Has Fallen Behind Expectations

What is the last Ubisoft game that actually did well?

simple,

Assassin’s Creed Valhalla, I assume

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