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gcheliotis, do games w Remedy Has Recouped 'Most' of the Development and Marketing Expenses for Alan Wake 2

I found the pacing of the first few chapters in the first Alan Wake sublime, in terms of storytelling. The gameplay frustrated me on the other hand, became quickly monotonous and tedious for me. So I only played like a third of the game, much as I liked the story and was curious to see where it went. Then Control I was left completely unmoved by. So I’ve been hesitating to take up the second Alan Wake, basically because I didn’t much like the first iteration, or Control, which I’ve heard is somehow connected. Maybe I’m missing out. Or maybe these games appeal only to a certain audience.

glimse,

I thought the story of Control was just ok but the gameplay was awesome.

It didnt land on my Top 25 list BUT…that one level (people who played it know exactly which I mean) was easily one of the best sequences I’ve ever played. I have no idea how they made it feel like you were still in control (hehe) as everything around you went crazy.

Unfortunately that level is very late in the game otherwise I’d implore you to stick it out to see it. But since you quit so early because you weren’t having fun, you probably will continue to not have fun until that part.

gcheliotis,

Hey thanks, both AW1 and Control are games I might pick up again. Didn’t hate them, they just didn’t really hook me.

glimse,

I probably wouldn’t have kept playing it if a friend didn’t buy it for me and insist so I get it!

Coelacanth, do games w Remedy Has Recouped 'Most' of the Development and Marketing Expenses for Alan Wake 2
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I really really hope they don’t get discouraged. They would have done so much better had it only been on Steam, please Remedy don’t change your ways.

Also it should have been GotY last year, fight me.

limitedduck,

Hopefully it’ll come out on steam next year or something as a single complete edition, just like Control.

MentalEdge,
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It’s published by Epic (Control was published by 505). Unless Epic significantly compromises on their insistence of pushing the Epic store, it wont happen.

Ever.

iAmTheTot,

Went would it have done better if it were only on steam?

uninvitedguest,
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Bit of awkward phrasing, but the commentator was not talking about Steam exclusivity - rather having it available on Steam (in addition to wherever else it was available).

Clearer wording may be “if only it had been on Steam”.

iAmTheTot,

Ooh, I misunderstood, cheers.

Coelacanth,
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Good shout, I did fumble my word order.

TheFriar,

I thought it won game of the year as well as a bunch of other awards?

Coelacanth,
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BG3 got GotY, though there are debates to be had I suppose over the legitimacy of an “official” game of the year.

ampersandrew,
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Not with how unanimous BG3’s award was at basically every outlet.

Coelacanth,
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I was referring to The Game Awards and their claim on crowning the “Game of the Year”.

ampersandrew,
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I know, but this past year in particular, there wasn’t much contention over what the game of the year was.

Coelacanth,
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I think going by overall mainstream appeal and zeitgeist it’s correct. Everybody was talking about BG3 that year, even people who are usually not fans of the genre. So in that sense I agree that 2023 was the year of BG3.

On the games’ merit alone as standalone pieces of art abstracted from context I think Alan Wake 2 puts up a good fight.

ampersandrew,
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Yeah, last year was not a weak year. There was a new highly-regarded Zelda game as well, which is easy to forget when Baldur’s Gate 3 won every award so unanimously.

MentalEdge,
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They wont.

Remedy games have been “underperforming” despite rave reviews for a while. Yet they’ve been chugging along doing what they think is neat, instead of caving into the current money-making models.

And in this case, the Epic partnership definitely hurt the game. And they know it did. Before AW2, it was microsoft putting the breaks of Quantum Break despite it being great.

Control was the first time since Max Payne I felt they truly achieved the success that their level of quality deserves (and even then it was a timed epic exclusive).

Now Remedy has set themselves up to finally self-publish the follow-up to Control. I can’t wait.

Remedy has fans, but something always seems to get in the way.

ampersandrew,
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Didn’t they just announce a live service shooter? Isn’t that caving into current money-making models?

MentalEdge,
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We know one of their WIP titles is a PvE multiplayer game set in their connected universe. Aside from that, nothing more is known, except for your generic corporate “we’re excited about our future projects with Remedy” statements from 505.

I’d be very suprised if Remedy turns around and makes it overtly exploitative.

ampersandrew,
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Whether it’s any more exploitative than any other game, it’s still got all of the same baggage. It’s always online and will one day be unplayable, and it’s relying on continual revenue to support it rather than just selling it for an up front price and letting it rock, which both encourage exploitative monetization anyway.

MentalEdge, (edited )
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Ok. Unfortunately it sounds like you’re asking me to stop liking a studio that I like, based on speculation about how a future title of theirs might work. That’s not an actionable argument.

Nothing about a multiplayer title requires it be made in a way that will break whenever the official servers go down. You are assuming this one will work that way, and I’ll grant you it likely will.

But the change we both want isn’t going to come from voting with our wallets, but even harder.

It’ll come from something like this.

ampersandrew,
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I’m not asking you to stop liking a studio you like, but I am asking you to take them off of the pedestal you put them on. If you care about the SKG campaign, that new shooter of theirs is at odds with it.

MentalEdge, (edited )
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That pedestal being, that they keep making games that are just plain good, despite at the same time being involved with shit industry practices by working with Microsoft and Epic?

I think that particular pedestal is pretty fucking deserved. And one that looks their faults in the eyes.

They keep making good stuff, while marred by the bullshit that allows them to fund the studio.

Why do you think I’m specifically excited for them to finally do something fully self-published, so they can make something I can enjoy with no fucking strings attached?

randomaside, do games w Remedy Has Recouped 'Most' of the Development and Marketing Expenses for Alan Wake 2
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AAA title Published by Epic Games, doesn’t use unreal engine, mega-chad move.

I can see them in the future publishing it on steam as it has no integration into epic in any technical way. Epic will want to recoup their costs though by optimizing the release window for steam so expect it (if at all) to have a steam release when control 2 lands.

ampersandrew,
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Probably not, unless Remedy buys the publishing rights back from Epic, which they did for Alan Wake 1, from Microsoft.

Phegan, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K

This is what happens when you try to develop as a triple a studio against trends. By the time your game comes out, you are too late to the grift.

ByteOnBikes, do gaming w Ubisoft Just Quietly Launched a Full-Blown NFT Game - IGN

NFTs. I’m so glad it died so quickly. What a scam.

Can’t wait to see Ubisoft’s first AI only game.

Ack,

It’ll come out a year or two after the AI craze crashes!

Midnitte,

I mean, for all we know, only AI is playing this game!

DdCno1,

Quick, we need to bring up a few more old and leaking nuclear reactors to handle the energy demand of this nonsense!

ramble81, do gaming w Ubisoft Just Quietly Launched a Full-Blown NFT Game - IGN

I irrationally hate the term “web3” (or maybe it’s rational). It feels like someone tried to force a paradigm rather than the natural evolution.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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Perhaps you may enjoy this site then: www.web3isgoinggreat.com

DdCno1,

Is there a similar site for AI?

SweetCitrusBuzz, (edited )
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Yes, but we forget it right now. We will look and come back with an edit if we find it.

Edit: pivot-to-ai.com

jherazob,
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crmsnbleyd,
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i_am_not_a_robot,

There used to be a respectable web 3.0 but now we just have web3 crypto grifters.

DieserTypMatthias, do gaming w Ubisoft Just Quietly Launched a Full-Blown NFT Game - IGN
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If the game items had price tag in XMR, it’d be very cool. No one asked for buying Blender models with Ethereum.

Liome, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K
@Liome@pawb.social avatar

Our shared goal is to explore new ways to play alongside bringing more value to players based on empowerment and ownership

Holy shit

rustyfish,
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Empowerment and ownership are the new pride and accomplishment.

Th3D3k0y,

You own the figure in the game, but don’t delude yourself into thinking you actually own this game. We reserve the right to remove your access to your property at our own discretion

Croquette,

It’s like recreating the vacuum of space with words.

PR talk needs to die a fiery death.

washipaper,

I love this picture you are painting. I will definitely steal the metaphor.

LunarLoony,
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Shared goal? Shared with whom?

t_berium, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K
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Assassin’s Greed

NeilBru, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K

Is there any public record of anyone actually buying that tripe?

billiam0202, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K

What, Guillemot thinks Ubisoft’s share price is still too high?

Macaroni_ninja, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K
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I know it will fail but I really hope it will fail big time to accelerate the dowfall of this soulless corporate piece of shit company.

CosmoNova, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K

Death to Ubisoft. Let’s make an example out of them by simply laughing from the sidelines while they bury themselves.

maxenmajs, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K
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Whoever is responsible for this deserves hot, wet pillows, scratchy blankets and lumpy mattresses for life.

Wild_Mastic, do games w Ubisoft launches NFT game with figures costing up to $63K

Lol. Lmao.

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