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TheaoneAndOnly27, do games w Helldivers 2 Devs to Begin Rolling Out Updates to Fix the 'Most Serious Issues' on PS5 and PC

Yeah I have 12 and a half hours in the game and most of that has been staring at a black screen. Waiting to see if it'll load

avater, (edited ) do games w Helldivers 2 Devs to Begin Rolling Out Updates to Fix the 'Most Serious Issues' on PS5 and PC
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Unplayable right now.

O_i, do games w Helldivers 2 Devs to Begin Rolling Out Updates to Fix the 'Most Serious Issues' on PS5 and PC

It’s crazy peoples experiences so far, I got to play all week with zero issues, had some issues over the weekend but decided to not queue up to let others join.

CountVon, (edited )
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If you look at the Steam player charts for the game you’ll see when it’s working vs. when it’s not. Off-peak it works fine, but right now the player base is ramming up against their temporary player cap for hours at a time on-peak. If you try to connect when there are thousands of others also trying to connect, that’s when things go south. That was the case for much of the weekend.

Edit: Here’s a chart illustrating what I mean: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/944808ea-5089-4bbe-8400-91c6d13e12fa.png

In the last 48 hours, player counts hit 400k at about 7pm Eastern UTC and just stayed there for 6-ish hours. That isn’t normal, almost all other player count charts show a gradual rise and fall over the course of a day. The devs implemented an artificial cap after they found that their servers bog down when there are too many active players, basically sacrificing the peak time login experience to preserve the in-game experience. If you try to connect while the active player count is pegged, you’re essentially joining a swarm of other players who are also trying to connect at the same time. That swarm is likely DOSing some aspect of their own login systems.

PrettyLights,

A lot of the player count on steam is users AFK idling so they don’t have to get stuck in queue again. My discord friend list is a ton of idle users on Helldivers 2 all day and night

CountVon,
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Yeah, that’s definitely a thing. They need to implement an idle timer. Seems like a low effort feature that would improve the login experience significantly.

LaserTurboShark69, do games w Helldivers 2 Devs to Begin Rolling Out Updates to Fix the 'Most Serious Issues' on PS5 and PC

The server issues were cute for a couple days following their overwhelming success but I would like to be able to play the game I fucking paid for now please

Gandarf, do games w Helldivers 2 Devs to Begin Rolling Out Updates to Fix the 'Most Serious Issues' on PS5 and PC

Game won’t even launch for me. Just a black screen. Maybe this will fix it? otherwise I’m enjoying the Starship Troopers game, in its stead.

Kovukono,

You can get past the black screen by deleting the config file in the game’s appdata. After that, it’ll launch, you’ll apply settings, and you’ll get stuck on the “Defrosting Helldiver” screen because you can’t access a server, and be stuck with a black screen the next time you launch. I’m having so much fun.

Gandarf,

So glad there’s a… Work around…? They got 1 week before I refund I guess.

DonjonMaester,

In the config file under appdata, edit fullscreen flag to false. Its one of the first lines in the file.

finthechat, (edited )
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Steam is allowing refunds even over 2 hours for this game, just fyi

Oh man actually take that last comment with a grain of salt, I am seeing conflicting reports on the Steam boards about that today, sorry about that

Gandarf,

Oh! Good to know. Thanks!

finthechat,
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Oh man actually take that last comment with a grain of salt, I am seeing conflicting reports on the Steam boards about that today, sorry about that

Gandarf,

Understood. Thanks for the follow up

CountVon,
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If you let it sit on the black screen, it will eventually let you in. Or to be exact it will eventually display the intro movie and splash screen, you’ll probably see servers at capacity there and after some time there you’ll eventually get in. Not exactly sure what it’s doing on that black screen, but I’m guessing it’s trying to talk to some server that’s massively overloaded. I spent most of the weekend playing with friends, so I had to suffer through the wait multiple times.

Gandarf,

Hmm. I don’t like the waiting. I have about 1.5hrs of playtime before I can get it refunded with ease. I’ll just see what state it’s in next weekend and refund if it’s still iffy.

ExcursionInversion,
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Black screen is the first boss Servers are full screen second boss

Just have to wait for both

arudesalad,

I read somewhere that the server issues and the black screen is related

A_Toasty_Strudel, do games w Helldivers 2 Devs to Begin Rolling Out Updates to Fix the 'Most Serious Issues' on PS5 and PC
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That’d be great. I’ve had the game for a week or so, and most of that time has been spent playing other things because H2 is completely and literally unplayable with the current server issues.

arudesalad,

If your outside the usa you can probably avoid the peak times on the weekends, that’s how I’ve been getting into the servers

AlexisFR,
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Yeah, I had to put it down since last Sunday, as server keep being full after 20:00 each evening since then.

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5 years later: whoops another one

inclementimmigrant, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'

Every new console since I’ve had the original NES is the largest technological leap…

Omegamanthethird, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'
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The biggest jump in the current consoles was the load times. I don’t think there’s anything the next gen could do to impress.

beefcat,
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Ray tracing performance that’s actually good enough for games to fully ditch rasterized lighting and reflections

CaptPretentious,

That is beyond optimistic for consoles. Maybe three or four more generations worth.

beefcat,
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It’s possible with high end PC hardware today. Since when have consoles been 20 years behind PC?

Omegamanthethird,
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That sounds a lot like the jump from HD to 4K. Which is to say a lot less impactful than the previous jumps and tech. And something a lot of people might not even notice.

Are there other benefits to this? Like less work for developers?

beefcat,
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A lot less work for developers, smaller game sizes, and map and game design no longer needing to be built around the onerous limitations of raster lighting and reflections.

Ray tracing is a bigger deal than most people realize. It feels like a gimmick because the games that support it today are still ultimately designed around rasterization.

Path-traced lighting in particular is a huge game changer, and means developers will no longer have to choose between rudimentary global dynamic lighting and very static and storage-intensive baked lighting. You can get the benefits of both without the drawbacks of either, assuming the hardware is up to snuff.

Sordid, do gaming w After Pricing Dragon’s Dogma 2 $70, Capcom Is Now Considering a Video Game Price Review - IGN
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I’d be willing to pay that if it didn’t have Denuvo DRM. Since it does, the price I’m willing to pay is about an order of magnitude lower.

JelloBrains,
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It's worse than that, they've been going through their back catalog and adding Enigma Protector DRM to games because the company doesn't like mods saying they are no different than cheating and some are morally offensive.

Sordid,
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Oh man… But morally offensive mods are the best ones! I guess I’d better back up my DDDA installer before this plague reaches it, huh?

JelloBrains,
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There's conflicting messaging on it, some on Steam claim when they implement it that mods quit working, and others claim that just isn't true... I don't know as I'm not paying what Capcom wants for some of their games, but I know that it messed up compatibility with the Steam Deck when they added it to Monster Hunters in January.

If I owned one of the games that might get it, I would look into keeping a second copy that isn't updated though. Or turn off auto-updates in Steam.

Jaeger86, do gaming w After Pricing Dragon’s Dogma 2 $70, Capcom Is Now Considering a Video Game Price Review - IGN

I just gonna wait till it’s $20

flop_leash_973, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'

"And what we’re focused on there is delivering the largest technical leap you will have ever seen in a hardware generation,

Pretty sure that is said by at least one player in the console game every time they announce new hardware.

Wirrvogel, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'
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Microsoft has clarified that it wants its games to be experienced across various devices

Microsoft, please give me streaming with keyboard and mouse. It is not rocket surgery ™ to do that and it is promised now for so long.

brlemworld,

GeForce Now ?

lud,

They presumably want gamepass or they want to stream to twitch from their console. Not sure.

KingThrillgore, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'
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The big 2 vendors jumped on the Raytracing bandwagon too early and it shows.

UsernameIsTooLon,

Ray tracing was the hot new buzzword after CP2077 showed off what consoles couldn’t at the time.

Unfortunately the tech didn’t even mature on PC yet, at least not without upscaling and now frame gen to help get it to more pleasing framerates.

retrovg,
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Ray tracing in this generation was a classical case of "biting more than you can chew". Huge distraction.

Carighan,
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Yeah I thought the same reading that.

Even in the very game, CP2077, as impressive as it can be, it can also be just as disappointing. It’s still a nice technical marvel, but it’s not at all the gamechanger it wanted to be.

And there’s games such as A Plague Tale Requiem where the baked lighting looks flat-out better in most scenes than the raytracing, since unlike the “realistic” raytracing they hand-crafted it to be unrealistic but fitting for the tone and atmosphere of the scene. So I turned it off again.

I’ll be honest, so far the only game where RT universally made me go “I’ll leave that on, that’s awesome!” is Riftbreaker. And it has a comparatively minor effect there, but at least a purely positive one (CP2077 I prefer at native rez over RT + DLSS which gets a weird pseudo-blur even with carefully tweaked resharpening, it’s just part of how it renders I think as other games don’t have this issue).

KingThrillgore,
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And all for prettier shinies. No offense, but SSAO/Cubemaps are still damn pretty looking and cheaper in terms of resources. For me, 2077 still runs like ass with raytracing even today.

altima_neo,
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Doesn’t help AMD is behind compared to Nvidia

technomad, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'

Honestly, I don’t think I’ll own another console at this point.

PC will have my focus.

heavy,

Console are great for the audience that doesn’t want to pay the prevalent PC/GPU premium at this stage.

nightm4re,

At this point, a preowned Steam Deck is so much cheaper than any next gen console might ever be. So the barrier to entry for PC gaming is even lower and from a customer perspective, we know what platform players should go for

Mango,

They’ll pay it anyhow. They just won’t get a GPU for it and be stuck with only what’s on their specific platform.

I don’t even need the giant GPU. I just need the open platform to keep playing the games I already love.

CommanderCloon,

proceeds to buy $70 games

CaptPretentious,

Except you definitely make up for it and probably pay more (depending on what hardware cost your comparing to of course) on the consoles. All three consoles have subscription-based services that are more or less required. Some of the controllers for the consoles are as much or more than a keyboard or mouse. You rarely see a price decline of any of the games (especially Nintendo), and certainly nothing as near as what you’ll find on PC.

So consoles are a cheap upfront cost that’s recouped overtime. I’m not saying that consoles are definitely more expensive, but the true cost of ownership is somewhat muddled.

heavy,

I don’t really agree with that, at least outside of niche situations. The upfront cost on a PC today puts the cost for playing on consoles much cheaper up front such that it would take years to make up the difference, even if you were paying for Game Pass.

My point isn’t some pedantry over PC vs Console and cost nit-picking. Its that consoles aren’t a bad deal. It’s OK for people to own and play games on a console, and they work well for a lot of people.

I’ve been putting together PCs for a while now and the idea that they’re more affordable for playing games than on consoles is becoming more and more of a misnomer. You can thank the major part duopolies for that. I don’t think console companies aren’t greedy or somehow noble, but consoles are still fill a gap and enable people to play games.

KingThrillgore,
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At this point, unless the PS5 shapes up and offers exclusives that matter, I will probably do the same.

cdipierr,

After the Helldivers 2 release Sony started talking about getting more aggressive with PC releases, so I think we’re going to see a lot less console only releases.

baatliwala,

Game pass is too good for me to resist consoles tbh, the PC app is ass. I can’t be bothered at this point to buy an expensive PC to be able to play AAA games.

AB7ORH7D,

PCs are brilliant! But I like console

Capitao_Duarte,

I play on both! I like pc for cheaper prices and some different games. I like my xbox to just “plug and play”, it is simple and I don’t have to keep verifying if it will run smoothly. My pc is kinda strong, but not super strong, so AAA titles a no go there

Blisterexe,

Steam deck is best of both worlds

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