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vordalack, do games w Steam games will now need to fully disclose kernel-level anti-cheat on store pages

Any program having kernel level access is spyware. This is getting ridiculous.

Mwa,

Vanguard anticheat…

donuts, do games w Valve ban advertising-based business models on Steam, no forced adverts like in mobile games

Haven’t seen a game that uses ads like this, but very good that it’s strictly prohibited now. That shit should never have taken off on mobile, but alas. At least we can prevent it on PC.

Blackmist,

Well you can prevent it on Steam. And I don’t think Epic really have an ad network to abuse for this either.

If you see Google launch a “free game only” store for PC, get worried. Although Google being Google, it will be deleted within two years anyway.

echodot,

If you see Google launch a “free game only” store for PC, get worried.

I would be astonished if there was anything good on it though. If you are going to make a microtransaction game you probably don’t want to put a lot of effort into it because people won’t play it for more than about a week. This stuff’s only profitable if you can shovel new games out of the door on a regular basis.

Blackmist,

Oh there wouldn’t need to be anything actually good on it.

You just need Superbowl advert money and suddenly you’ve got millions of users with no money.

I suspect the only reason this hasn’t happened already is that those millions of users are already on mobile, being flashed with garish noisy adverts every two minutes of gameplay, and moving them to PC some of the time wouldn’t really increase ad revenue…

LostWanderer, do games w Playtron wanted to take on Windows and SteamOS with their GameOS, now they're announcing a cryptocurrency

Playtron can keep their GameOS, anything associated with Cryptocurrency is a hard pass. I remember a lot of cryptobros were financing the fuck out of Playtron. Naturally, this is a product I consider dead to me. I will buy a Steam Deck from Valve, as they aren’t actively trying to scam their potential user base with Crypto nonsense.

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  • LostWanderer,

    I’m probably going to get the middle tier of Steam Deck as it does provide a decent value; as I play a lot of farming sims and cozy games, the Steam Deck fills this purpose well for me. Better than my Switch ever could. I was also considering the Lenovo Legion Go S, but waiting for hardware and software reviews for that device is a smart move. As it could be an amazing device, or it could be fucking shit on launch.

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  • samus12345,

    But the cost is hard to justify given its age now.

    Is it? When I last checked online, you’d be hard-pressed to find any other PC handheld for $400 or less, even used.

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  • samus12345,

    OLED made some minor improvements, but $150 more for the next step up is a huge ask. You act as if there are plenty of easily available cheaper handheld PCs out there. Not that I’ve found. Prices for old technology are going up, not down.

    LainTrain,

    3.5 years old isn’t that old lol. My desktop CPU was almost 10 years old before I noticed any bottleneck in AAA games.

    And speaking of AAA games from the last few years, all like, 2 of them, probably won’t be missed by most people.

    The deck is a solid computer and it’s a good product that’s built well and is pleasant to handle and use and playing desktop games on that OLED with HDR support is a joy and on top of a decently polished UX (as polished as you can get in PC gaming really), the tinker potential is endless, you can do with it as you please because it’s yours and you own it - and it certainly feels like it. No adware, no enshittification etc.

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  • Katana314,

    I think there is a “graphical plateau” to gaming; a universal constant a bit like Moore’s Law. And while it’s not certain, it’s very possible the Steam Deck has mostly moved beyond it.

    I definitely don’t think there’s an infinite bound to the detail games can add, especially within the resolution displayed on the Deck. Plus, many formats of games have not been well-served by that sort of extra detail. When a fringe hit like Liar’s Bar, REPO, or Lethal Company comes along, it never really needs the extra horsepower of top consoles. There’s a few rare PS5 exclusives that may struggle on it, but given Cyberpunk 2077 runs on it, I don’t even think we need be too worried.

    LostWanderer,

    I understand what you are trying to say, I feel like it’s not that old of a device in comparison to a Switch or Switch OLED. It’s still going to be a decent buy at the price point; I’m not overly worried about spending that much on a Steam Deck OLED. It wouldn’t take but a month of casual saving to afford a Steam Deck and given a lot of the games I buy are Deck Verified…It’s not a bad deal. This thing will likely be good enough for a few more years of play, particularly with indie games. Given that there is plenty of time for further consideration, I am leaning towards waiting for reviews of the Legion device I mentioned…On the off chance it is the better buy.

    orgrinrt,

    Just an anecdote, but I have a much smoother experience playing with the original steam deck than I did on my desktop. I mean the frames aren’t as high, the screen is small and resolution is low, but for whatever backwards reason, it just feels so smooth to look at and play with. I guess you see and feel the graphical artifacts better on a large screen with large resolution, and everything feels so uncanny somehow with high refresh rates and 100+ fps. Can’t really explain it though. Weird stuff.

    Just finished the last of us 1 remake and 2 remaster with the deck. It just looks so gorgeous, I ran both with mixed medium-high settings, and it was an amazing experience. Before those I played cyberpunk with some crazy 500+ mods, and it was just excellent to play. Same with Witcher 3, though that’s getting old by now, so less surprising it runs so well.

    In fact, I’m yet to play any lightweight games on this thing. Or even indie ones. These graphically intensive games have been such a joy to play, I haven’t even had the time or motivation to attempt anything else. I’m finally getting through my dusty, cobwebbed library, especially these more expensive games, and that’s been almost miraculous! A desktop requires sitting down, dedicated time and focus, but I can bring this thing with me pretty much anywhere and play a checkpoint or two or whatever while on a bus, a train, waiting for an appointment… anything. And it fucking runs all these games I’ve dreaded to play on the gaming rig because it just never felt good because I couldn’t hit ultra settings on everything, and the artifacts just were too noticeable and things weren’t as immersive as I’d have liked.

    But this small little thing? So enjoyable, it’s so weird.

    This is something I want to yell so loud every time I see anyone underestimating this thing talking about playing less demanding, smaller or older, indie, or otherwise more basic games. Thanks to some black magic I can’t make any sense of, the exact opposite is what you’ll want to do I bet!

    3dmvr,

    with tarrifs the cheap handhelds are all expensive now

    deafboy,
    @deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

    Valve, as they aren’t actively trying to scam their potential user base

    I love Valve, but let’s face the reality here. They’re operating an unregulated bank and casino.

    LostWanderer,

    They were sued in 2019 by a Native American tribe over that, I haven’t heard much about the issue since. It’s likely they are merely being neutral in the situation now, as no one is throwing up a fuss. Still, it’s not cool behavior on the part of Valve.

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever, do games w Microsoft - keep your filthy hands off Valve, leak shows MSFT would buy Valve

    Yeah. This is a giant nothing burger

    ANY gaming, or even tech, company looking at possible acquisitions is interested in Valve. In the same way that everyone would be down to clown with Ryan Reynolds if he knocked on their door but we know it won’t happen.

    Same with the “rumor” of buying Nintendo.

    Stovetop,

    Sensationalist media will grab at anything, really.

    I mean, the Nintendo thing started with an email Phil Spencer replied to titled “random thought,” and the email was basically a lot of “Yeah that sounds great, but here’s why it’s not going to happen. But sure, though, it would be nice to own Nintendo, and I know a guy who’s been trading some of their stock if you wanted to maybe buy some.”

    pory,
    @pory@lemmy.world avatar

    Nintendo is at least publicly traded. Valve doesn’t need shareholders.

    flamingos, do games w Netris is an open-source cloud gaming platform with Stadia-like features using Proton

    Can’t believe they didn’t call it Stadium.

    Stovetop, do games w Linux hits exactly 2% user share on the October 2024 Steam Survey

    Surprised it’s not higher. I would have thought more than 2% of people on Steam were using Steam Deck.

    trespasser69, (edited )
    @trespasser69@lemmy.world avatar

    Well maybe Linux most likely to hit ~7% global OS market share and total 5%+ Steam Survey user share next 10 years (its just prediction)

    KITA,

    Keep dreaming. Not that I hope Linux doesn’t do well. But I can’t imagine it’ll continue to grow into the future.

    hanrahan,
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    I hope it languishes around 3-4% at most, if it does get 7%-10% enshitification inevitably ensues and it will grow more and get worse

    rbits,

    If that happens, you can just switch to another distro. That’s the point of Linux

    pixelscript,

    I’d be more than happy to sacrifice a distro I don’t care about like Ubuntu to the mainstream if it means Microsoft’s market cap gets a sizeable chunk taken out of it.

    CeeBee_Eh,

    Over 15% marketshare in India

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  • CeeBee_Eh,

    Dunno. I don’t live there.

    Ugurcan,

    Deck sold well but there are billions of Steam users.

    CeeBee_Eh,

    ~35 million concurrent active users.

    Solemarc,

    I could swear it was higher earlier this year/last year but looking at the survey results, Linux climbed to 2% this survey. I think maybe that half remembered headline was something like “Linux is higher than MacOS at 1.5% market share” or something like that instead?

    visor841,

    Steam is a massive worldwide market, and the Steam Deck isn’t offered everywhere. Chinese users for example have to import it, so not many are used there.

    CMahaff,

    I got the hardware survey on my Windows PC, but not on my Steamdeck. So I wonder if there is only 1 survey per user, and most people don’t use a steamdeck exclusively?

    Davel23,

    I got asked about the survey on both my desktop and Steam Deck.

    CMahaff,

    Curious did you get the survey popup in desktop mode on the deck? Or does it work in “big picture”?

    Davel23,

    It was in desktop mode, so maybe that makes a difference.

    hangonasecond,

    I don’t think the 2% figure includes the steam deck, but I might be wrong

    Macros,

    It does include it. The article list it in detail: 36.79% of the Linux users use the steam deck. And the number is falling, which means there are more users also using Linux on desktop PC (or other gaming handhelds)

    But that may also just be statistical noise.

    TommySoda, do games w Steam games will now need to fully disclose kernel-level anti-cheat on store pages

    I feel like they’re doing this because they are going so hard with steam deck. Regardless, good on Valve for doing this.

    cyberpunk007,

    The steam deck is also amazing, such a nice piece of hardware. I’ve been gaming on Linux for years and I’m surprised how well it works. Feels like a console.

    weegee90, do games w Playtron wanted to take on Windows and SteamOS with their GameOS, now they're announcing a cryptocurrency
    Coyote_sly,

    Yup.

    Me before the comma: Good luck to them, more options can’t be a bad thing.

    Me after the comma: I intend to wipe the existence of your useless company from my memory entirely, so I’m just going to point and laugh at your failure in advance and immediately move on with my life.

    newthrowaway20, do games w ASUS reveal the ROG Ally X with more RAM, more storage, larger battery

    Oh a 2-year warranty? Not sure how useful that warranty will be if they continue to deny every warranty claim.

    bappity,
    @bappity@lemmy.world avatar

    and add bullshit to repair jobs that nobody asked for

    Anti_Iridium, (edited )

    What? Clearly a tiny ding is enough to ruin your experience.

    bappity,
    @bappity@lemmy.world avatar

    absolutely ruined my day. every time I grab my Asus Rog and see that nanometer dent, I fall into deep depression

    Eheran,

    What, there is nothing wrong with your device… but I do not want to give you anything under warranty… Let me just put a scratch there real quick while you come back from showing me where the breakers are. feel free to watch it here in an it’s glory

    edgemaster72,
    @edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh, you don’t want to pay for the nonsense we made up? Guess we’ll just ship it back to you in pieces, good luck with that.

    Davel23,

    Yeah, the length of the warranty is not the issue.

    loopgru, do games w Netris is an open-source cloud gaming platform with Stadia-like features using Proton

    Why on Earth would they make it Nvidia exclusive given how thoroughly that company has screwed the pooch on open source drivers and consequently how dominant AMD has come to be in Linux gaming?

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  • BarbecueCowboy,

    I don’t know that we’re bitching per se, just kind of a weird choice. It’s like they went to Popeye’s and tried to order a salad, it’s just like yeah, the ingredients are technically there, but why?

    SpacetimeMachine,

    Don’t Nvidia cards natively support this through gamestream? I don’t know if Amd has something similar or not but you can already easily set up something like this to stream to a steam deck

    WolfLink,

    Nvidia game stream is no longer being maintained, although it’s still present in the current versions of GeForce Experience.

    The Moonlight/Sunshine projects are open source implementations of Nvidia’s Game Stream protocol and they support non-Nvidia cards.

    Fuzzypyro,
    @Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world avatar

    The nvidia/vulkan open source driver is apparently pretty rad. I haven’t had a chance to test it myself yet since I am running a dual gpu setup that contains one gpu that isn’t supported. The original maintainer for nouveau is apparently also working at Nvidia and contributing to the project as an Nvidia employee now too soooo maybe they are turning over a new leaf?

    He goes into detail in the video below. odysee.com/…/did-nvidia-just-officially-support:2

    Bunbury, do games w Steam Deck and SteamOS hit 20,000 playable games

    And I still feel like their definition of playable is a bit narrow. I regularly play “unplayable” games on my steam deck without much issue. You just might need to fiddle about with the controller settings, compatibility modes and use the built in magnifying tool and keyboard once in a while. It’s really not the end of the world.

    otacon239,

    But that’s just it. That fiddling isn’t something the dev probably accounted for, so it should be noted that the experience will be less than optimal. I think it still fits.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    There really should be another level to it:

    Tinker: runs fine with some in-game config or with Steam OS tools like Steam Input

    It would exclude any lower level tweaks like changing launch args or using a special Proton version, those can stay unsupported. Basically, if you can get it working well intuitively without looking stuff up online, it should have some level of support.

    I’ve played several “unsupported” games that work fine, so something should be done here.

    youngalfred,

    Are using Decky loader? The ProtonDB badges plugin is great for this!

    Battlefront 2 - unsupported officially, but actually plays fine with no tweaking and gets a gold badge on protonDB.

    Having the plugin shows the good badge on the games store and installed page

    network_switch,

    I’m pretty sure people have been playing Tales of Berseria on Steam Decks for 3 years and it still says unsupported. Seems perfect to me

    sirico,
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    It’s more of a status for publishers and Devs to hit.

    librechad, do games w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding

    I’m donating $5, not much but I love to see companies like Unity burn.

    sebinspace,

    Unity’s take is 2.5% past $1m in revenue.

    I’m never, ever going to hit those numbers, but if do, I’d rather willingly commit that 2.5% to Godot.

    cxx,

    Unity’s take is 2.5% past $1m in revenue.

    Is that before or after they backtracked?

    The point isn’t even whether the terms are acceptable anymore. They tried to change the deal retroactively because they felt they had a strong position in that game developers are already invested into their ecosystem.

    They may have gone back to saner terms for now but unless the entire management structure resigns, there’s no reason not to say they won’t try again in the future.

    You can’t go good business with bad people.

    Chailles,
    @Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

    It doesn’t even matter of their management as a whole changes. No matter who it is, what matters are their actions going forward. The only way to get out of the hole they dug themselves in is years of sitting around being good.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    They tried to change the deal retroactively because they felt they had a strong position

    I’m honestly surprised that I have not seen by now a meme pic of Darth Vader telling Lando that the deal is being changed, but the face of Darth Vader is instead the CEO of Unity.

    JoMiran, do games w Terraria hits over 60 million sales with Terraria 1.4.5 shaping up to be another big update
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    Wait…I thought they haf finished updates some time ago. Impressive.

    Nima,
    @Nima@leminal.space avatar

    the thing about terraria is that the devs love to play as much as the players. so they love the game and are always interested in making the experience better. not just for the players but them too.

    they’re also not a massive corporate run, shareholder-pleasing company either. so they actually listen to suggestions from fans. it’s the best.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    They’re also in the enviable position of having made a game with some of the highest profit per employee in history, so they’re not under the pressure that most are.

    Hadriscus,

    Sixty million sales, good god. How much is that in pesos I wonder ?

    KairuByte,
    @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    About 60 million sales. The question I have is how much that is in euros.

    Albbi,

    Me too. It’s probably been 10 years since I’ve last played. I have a solid 64 hours played and no achievements completed. Maybe I should check it out when this update comes out. It’ll probably feel like a brand new game at this point.

    Baguette,

    10 years ago was like back when hallowed armor was endgame and mech bosses were the last bit?

    There’s so much more content now that honestly makes the entire progression completely different

    Theres also a wealth of mods now that acts functionally as a whole new game as well (calamity being the biggest one)

    MutilationWave,

    I love the game I just hate having to build the houses and manage the people. It’s not creative it’s just make these boxes in this certain way.

    Minnels,

    I am also not a fan of building stuff and making it look nice. Just follow the easy rules to make a liveable cube and call it a day. That said I think terraria is the only game where I would consider actually spending some time making it look a bit nicer since it is so easy to do. I remember last time after completing the game I looked at some other peoples builds and got inspired.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    They’ve been saying it’s the final major update for the last like 4 major updates

    RarePossum,

    They’ve been saying it since 1.1.2. In 2012. There have been 12 major patches since then if you count all the 1.2.X patches as one.

    Moonrise2473, do gaming w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding

    I love how unity went from “we have a tech that can distinguish pirated copies with 100% accuracy, and also we exploit android and iOS sandboxing with 0-days to track reinstalls without fail, trust our numbers” to “we have no idea about the install numbers, you need to tell us”

    They can’t be trusted.

    bionicjoey, do games w Paradox Interactive has completely cancelled "Life By You"

    It’s a shame. But based on what I saw about it, it looked like maybe they had some delusions about using LLMs for character dialogue, which seems like an insanely complex feature to build into an already complex game.

    ThePantser,
    @ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

    Why? It can’t be much more than using one of those chatbot girlfriends. I know there could be delays as it takes time to generate but it could have a local version that just is a stripped down version that just processes dialogue. Probably requires a beefy GPU though.

    bionicjoey,

    You’d need the conversations to be highly constrained in order to not break the game. Currently there are too many ways of “jailbreaking” LLMs. It was too much of a scope creep for a game which was already biting off a lot more than most studios could chew.

    MajorHavoc,

    constrained in order to not break the game.

    While that’s true, I suspect that whoever gets there first will get a free pass in the court of public opinion, so long as it’s a single player game.

    “Look how awful my Sims are” is already a recurring gag hobby, anyway.

    bionicjoey,

    I wouldn’t give it a free pass if it ruined the gameplay and would have been easier for them not to implement.

    CosmoNova,

    There already are a small number of games utilizing LLMs. Yes it‘s immersion breaking from time to time but the worst part is the credit system many of them use to pay for the API. If you go past your conversation limit, you‘ve got to pay extra.

    bionicjoey,

    That sounds awful

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