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Pika, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

This doesn’t bode well.

The last time this happened was when Anonymous hacked PSN and took them down for a month after they went after Geohotz(cant remember the spelling) for jailbreaking/reverse engineering the ps3.

Radio silence like before as well. I hope they weren’t breached again.

technomad,

Oh yeah, I remember that now!

imecth,

I hope they weren't breached again.

That's awfully nice of you, certainly not a hope I share.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why would you want them to be breached? The only people that are going to be negatively affected by that are the users who was involved in the breach.

Understand hating a company but I find it to be pretty selfish if you’re okay with third party being affected just to fit your personal agenda.

It’s what separates the corporate tiers with the consumer level. The ability to care.

imecth,

Why would you want them to be breached? The only people that are going to be negatively affected by that are the users who was involved in the breach.

Yes and no. Sony would face repercussions for lax security, and while it would indeed affect the consumers, Sony would be at the epicenter. Forgive me for not giving a shit to what happens to Sony, and if they did in fact get breached I'll be there with some popcorn enjoying some Shadenfreude.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

What I’m saying is that you have to look at the bigger picture. Not only Sony would be affected by that, back in 2011 when they were breached consumers were charged in the estimated tens of millions of dollars range. A figure that Sony only ended up having to repay about 15 million in settlement fees for after a solid year and a half.

Additionally, Sony still managed to go up in profit that year, despite the PR nightmare out of it. Going up from 1.2 billion after operating costs in 2010 to 1.4 billion after operational costs in 2011 and still made 1.1 billion in 2012 ( after the 172 million in damages was done)

I understand hating big business and their practices as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time getting a sense of satisfaction knowing that at the end of the day the company itself isn’t going to be impacted by the hack more than a small itch, while fucking over the everyday consumer significantly more

obinice,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

…You want their security to be bad enough that they get hacked, so that they’d have to face repercussions for having bad security? What?

How about they just don’t have bad security and people don’t risk having their private data stolen?

Nice to know you’d sit there with popcorn watching people who just want to play video games suffer, a small price to pay for you to hurt Sony it seems, who I guess you hate for some reason.

imecth,

Oh no, people not being able to play games for a few hours, please stop the suffering.

SkaveRat,

It’s not about people not being able to pay

It’s about personal data of people getting lost

imecth,

Look at the thread we're in, look at the top of the conversation. This is about people not being able to play.

kryllic, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
@kryllic@programming.dev avatar

Someone unplugged the Mac mini

Tronn4,

DOSE, dept of Sony efficiency

SkaveRat,

Oh they upgraded from a raspberry pi?

flop_leash_973, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

Better than every year or so no one can play the games they supposedly “bought” due to some technical hiccup for a random yet lengthy amount of time than some percentage of people be able to more easily play our games without paying us. -some Sony/gaming industry stooge probably

In all seriousness, people need to stop being so willing to put up with this sort of easily foreseeable failing with the current way of doing digital goods. If I can’t use it without the blessing of someone else it is not buying, it is borrowing, and that severely impacts the value proposition for me personally.

Technical issues WILL happen. It is the nature of the beast, it is just terrible engineering to build what is essentially dead man switches into your customers products.

AFreeLarryHoover, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
@AFreeLarryHoover@lemmy.world avatar
essteeyou,

Last night I thought “this happened a few years ago, too, and we got free games as an apology” and now you tell me it was 14 YEARS ago!?

Lost_My_Mind,

Yes, and I’m also telling you we’ll get no free games this time. Business is more of a “fuck you” attitude in 2025.

essteeyou,

Yeah, if they’re down for over three weeks then I imagine they’ll be forced to refund at least some of the PS+ price.

BlastboomStrice,
@BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz avatar

B…but 2011 was like 6years ago?? No?

thequickben,

Your math needs some work…

2025 - 2011 = 14

2011 + 6 = 2017

BlastboomStrice,
@BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz avatar

😔😔

thequickben,

How did time pass so quickly? 😞

Anivia,

It has happened more often than that. The one in 2011 was the biggest outage, but PSN also got DDOSed by lizard squad a couple years after the 2011 outage

Harvey656,

Your making me feel old… I remember when it happened. I was so pissed I couldn’t play call of duty.

tonyn,

You’re making ME feel old. I remember having to go over my friend’s house to play multiplayer.

Lost_My_Mind,

Right??? Grab your NES cartridge, and make sure to grab the one that you borrowed from your friend last week. Throw them in your bookbag, and pedal your bike while your mom has no real way of knowing where you are. Sure you SAY you’re going to Jimmys house, but it’s not like you have a GPS tracker. And even if you did, how would your mom follow that that tracker? Go to the FBI and use their super computers??? Maybe you’d like her to ask for the nuke launch codes while she’s there. Just be back home before the street lights come on, or dad’s beating your ass!

Ah, the 80s. What a magical time. A magical time of AIDS epidemics, wars on drugs causes by and fought by the government, toxic toys not being recalled, and everybody being too dumb to care.

Nowadays, kids don’t even HAVE bikes! You throw your kids into a strangers car, call it uber, and use technology the 1980s government would have dreamed of having to make sure your kid goes to that little shit Jimmys house.

Everytime I remember the world I grew up in, and then look around at the world I’m in, I feel like I’m missing a big piece of what happened. These two worlds don’t line up. Like when I see old photos of my dad, from the 60s, I say “Yep, that sure looks like what my dad would look like if he were young”. But when I look at the 80s, I think “that sure seems like a totally unrelated society. One in which absolutely did NOT age into this world…”

I don’t understand life.

Korhaka,

I was born early 90s and always had a bike, so kids not use them anymore, or is it a regional thing?

Anivia,

There was also a big outage on 2014 when Sony got DDOSed by Lizardsquad. So maybe you are remembering that one and don’t need to feel quite so old

Harvey656,

Ouch. I’m only sorta old, instead full on old lol.

simple,

I remember being so happy that outage happened because they gave away free games. That’s how I got to play LittleBigPlanet for the first time.

bdonvr,

They gave out Wipeout and infamous for free out of that, I got a lot of play time out of those two games.

Kite, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

I’ve never thought about it before, but I wonder if the companies with games containing microtransactions can ask PSN for compensation for lost income due to long outages.

benignintervention,

I knew a guy who did this with Comcast for every minute his Internet was out. He’d call them every day for weeks until they cut him an account credit

toynbee,

I tried this in the first place I lived at where I paid for my own internet, which was Comcast at the time.

They said (paraphrasing because it was a long time ago) their contract specified they were not responsible for any outages, nor any income lost due to same. I don’t know if that’s true, but I was young and naive and accepted it at face value.

Korhaka,

Outages are a thing of the past since I switched to 4G. If you asked me in 2010 if 4G of all things would be better than a wired connection I would never have believed it.

It’s fast enough and never had an outage. Once in the past year I rotated the antenna to point at a different mast because it was being a little slow. I assume cell towers are a higher priority of infrastructure as they serve more people, and as there are multiple I can connect to there is also redundancy.

toynbee,

This was back in 2006 or so. I don’t recall if 4G was around then, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t available as an internet provider. If it was, I wasn’t aware.

I’m pretty happy with my current internet solution, but I’ll keep your suggestion in mind. Thank you!

Korhaka,

My first reason for going 4G was general distaste that all the wired providers leave me with. Awful pricing models where they charge less for 4 months then more for 20 and then loads indefinitely kinda thing and I just decided fuck that. I think there is a bit more competition for the 4G side of things too.

nickwitha_k,

When I worked at a web host, we had people like that. Being support sucked. Like, yes, it sucks that your e-commerce site that uses horrifically outdated software is offline but, we don’t offer quad nines, especially not on a $35/year shared hosting plan. And, honestly Drew, your site gets single-digit visits per month and sells erotica based upon the premise of Edgar Allen Poe being transported to 1990s Brooklyn and working as an apartment building super. At best, you’re breaking even on that hosting bill.

Korhaka,

As bad as the customers I deal with are I am so glad we only work with real companies. The smallest are a few hundred staff. At least 99% of the time they can be professional. The exception so far have been pretty funny though, shame I don’t go on calls with them anymore tbh.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

It is basically just a web form these days (just google “xfinity outage” or whatever).

They cut you off after a certain number of outages per quarter. And they decide how much money you get per outage. So if your next door neighbor has never reported an outage and you report every single one, they’ll get more for that one report.

teft, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been playing so much kingdom come deliverance 2 that I didn’t even notice PSN being down.

If you like RPGs try it.

TwoBeeSan,

I fell off 1. Is 2 an improvement to the charming eurojank?

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I never played the first one. I just watched a story recap.

The gameplay isn’t janky just brutally difficult and unforgiving. It goes for realism above all. I’m really liking it but I’m only maybe halfway through the story.

Korhaka,

Isn’t it linear story based though? I prefer open ended, been playing a lot of bannerlord recently

ivanafterall, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

I know why, but I’ll never tell.

Maiq,
@Maiq@lemy.lol avatar

What is it, dragons?

meowmeowbeanz, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

Sony’s uptime delusions crumbling faster than a PSN auth server. Fourteen hours of radio silence while charging for the privilege of digital serfdom? Masterstroke. Remember 2011’s month-long outage? At least we got free games as consolation—now they’ll just send thoughts and prayers via shareholder memos.

”Premium service” my ass. Paywalls for multiplayer, cloud saves held hostage, and a walled garden rotting from neglect. But hey, keep funding Zuck’s yacht repairs while your PS5 gathers dust. The 2011 apology tour is dead—2025’s mantra is ”fuck you, pay more.”

Reboot the servers, Jim. Or just admit the cloud was a screensaver all along.

derpgon,

The cloud is just someone else’s computer.

Doomsider,

You just made a Techbro angry somewhere in the world.

ipkpjersi,

Nope, people in IT know that the cloud is just someone else’s computer lol

Doomsider,

Nope, people in IT know the cloud is actually countless servers on racks in a giant data center rotfl.

ipkpjersi,

Yep, just like serverless computing that doesn’t use servers, or how games benefit heavily from the blockchain and companies are always hiring blockchain devs despite not knowing what the blockchain is or why they need blockchain devs other than because they heard they need it.

Don’t get me started with IoT.

ipkpjersi,

They sent thoughts and prayers.

5 days of PSN for free.

lol

AnUnusualRelic, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

“Did you remember to plug the server back in after vacuuming the server room?”

“Shit.” "Honey, gotta make a quick jump at the office! "

randon31415, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

Musk is currently reviewing it for DEI terms. Also Trump just fired the Sony board and declared himself president of Sony.

themurphy,

What?

Stamau123,

a play on Trump purging the Kennedy Center and installing himself as chief

themurphy,

Ah okay, never heard about the Kennedy Center.

Valmond,

It’s like a kennel but with kenneds.

ShepherdPie,

That’s your body suffering from whiplash as we’re once again back in the era where you never know whether someone is telling the truth or not when they make a wild claim about the president like that.

slaacaa,

Not my president! 😡

Tap for spoiler(I live in Germany)

bokherif,

Inbefore magats: DEFUND DEFUND DEFUND

ProIsh, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

Finally picked up kingdom come 2 on my ps5 just to dust it off after not playing for years and this is my weekend. Well played Sony, well played

MintyFresh,

I was looking at that game. Looks really cool. I’m interested to see a more historically based rpg game without mages and whatnot. I think it’s based on some section of polish history?

Maestro,

The first one is regularly on sale for $10 or less. Just try it. It's really good!

frigidaphelion,

It’s Bohemia so like modern day Czech Republic

AutistoMephisto,
@AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the sequel to the first one, and historical accuracy was like, at the center of of that one. Your character starts off the game not knowing how to read, because in medieval Europe, literacy was not widespread and the son of a blacksmith certainly wouldn’t know how to read, so books you pick up in the game are total gibberish until you learn to read.

WrenFeathers,
@WrenFeathers@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a single player game. You need to be online to play it?

ProIsh,

It’s like the anti pirating software. Drm? Can’t tell if I own it or not.

Will8250, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

As of about an hour ago, it is back up

peoplebeproblems, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

I was just able to get into Helldivers II on my PS5, so it’s either coming back, or it’s going to real shit

ech, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

If only there were a way to connect to a network without an intermediary like PSN. Damn shame that it’s impossible.

P1nkman,

I think ARPANET will have something like this once they got it working

Olap, do games w PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why

Spoilers: it’s the weekend and some hard drive is full. Japanese uptake of the cloud was lagging, and I fully anticipate that PSN isn’t utilising any big cloud providers scalabaility and we’re now waiting on Jim, who is on a long weekend (and well earnt!) to reboot/add more storage/logrotate

troed,
@troed@fedia.io avatar

disclaimer: ex-Sony employee

They probably know how to solve it technically, but they need management approval to do it and there are two managers currently in an internal feud over who has the highest authority and neither wants to admit to being the lowly one for such a trivial request.

clif,

I’d believe this in a heartbeat.

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