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LEONHART, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years

I’m fortunate enough to still have my full collection of RB4 instruments functional after all these years, and I frequently bust them out with my wife and my friends when the booze hits just right.

In the announcement they really emphasize that you’ll keep the songs you’ve already bought. What they haven’t clarified is whether you’ll still be able to continue downloading dlc tracks that are already released. Severing that from the playerbase would really suck.

Although they are releasing one final DLC pack before this ends, so who knows?

SatyrSack,

What they haven’t clarified is whether you’ll still be able to continue downloading dlc tracks that are already released.

They are just stopping their weekly DLC release schedule. No reason to think anything is going to happen to current DLC. Just nothing new going forward.

jqubed, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t even know this was still around

dogslayeggs, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years

Is this game still playable on modern systems? Can you still buy the peripherals?

EDIT: I searched it myself and found the answer is Yes to modern systems, but No to peripherals. You have to buy overpriced adapters at retail and used equipment on ebay/craigslist.

MarioSpeedWagon, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games

Come on Batman Beyond. But will probably be a new IP

CaptDust, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years

End of an era

eutsgueden, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games

What about this indicates AAA? Planned size of 100 employees, no projects announced yet, no mention of funding. Only thing I see is “cutting-edge” which could necessitate larger amounts of funding to develop, but that’s highly speculative and depends on the direction. I imagine after their Rocksteady experience, the people hired on from that company were looking for something different, not another “AAA” studio with shareholder oversight.

altima_neo, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Now the question is, will we be getting more great games like the old Rocksteady, or will we continue to get crap like Suicide Squad?

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games

Here’s hoping we’ll get the game we deserve instead of the game WB thinks we need

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

Wow who knew that capitulating to neo-nazis wasn’t profitable.

JoeDaRedTrooperYT,
@JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Nope. It’s because Twitch allowed nudity. This was the final straw for most

Omega_Haxors,

Would have blown right over if they didn’t foster an audience of neofascists.

JoeDaRedTrooperYT,
@JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Nope. You’re comparing two different issues.

Omega_Haxors,

If you’re incapable of seeing the bigger picture then there’s nothing I can or should say.

JoeDaRedTrooperYT,
@JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Bruh. Tf does a fascist audience have to do with Twitch falling off? What I was saying was that the debacle surrounding nudity was the last straw for most.

moon,

What are you even talking about

Omega_Haxors,

Crackergate.

moon,

I know that was a really stupid controversy, but definitely doesn’t mean it’s a neo nazi sure lol

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

No but it’s one in a long history of siding with the most fickle and destructive of the userbase. Nobody was asking them to make a big deal out of cracker, not even actual neo nazis give a shit about cracker beyond its use as a tool to bad-faith shut down people they don’t like.

This was a time when actual slurs were being thrown around completely unmoderated, famously saying that ret–d was allowed, which is an apt descriptor for what taking that stance and then proceeding to ban a bunch of their biggest left streamers for a discussing a mild slur was. It didn’t appease the people it was supposed to appease, all it did was drive away even more of the less politically repugnant users.

moon,

I was there for the drama too. It was hilarious the people crying racism for saying cracker, and the immediately follow up with the r word the same day. Mostly the Destiny guys who intentionally are bad faith basement dwellers. It was fucked up because they gave zero context about the word and grouped it up with racial slurs like the n word, which is completely racist to do that. So I definitely agree with you there. I mean we both know why, it’s because the website is 90% white males.

JokeDeity, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

I’ve never understood the appeal of watching twitch streams, I enjoy the edited compiled stuff with all the boring moments cut out that ends up on YouTube sometimes, but I see no point in watching a dude eating and drinking and staring at his monitor and shouting out to viewers.

derpgon,

Actively, no, but passively on a second monitor, I occasionally join in the discussion in chat. Finding a smallish streamer who actually reads you messages is nice.

fushuan,

Maybe then watch better streams. I usually watch streamers play games while talking to the chat or commenting on the gameplay, while I play a similar game. It’s entertaining.

Juigi,

There’s a lot more than just dudes eating and shouting.

KingThrillgore, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

You know what that means: Gifting a sub with Prime is about to go away and so are all the loot drops with Prime. Also, more no opt out ads, longer preroll ads, and a larger list of partnered games getting headway.

So you know typical enshittification stuff.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

This always makes me wonder how their operation can be so pricey.

It sounds more like their human resource cost is just absurd, not that their underlying technical operation is the problem. Plus assuming they did any calculation on the ads at all, their server usage should pay for itself as more load means more views means more ad impressions.

But what does Twitch need X-thousand people for if they still cannot do anything about curating content with those endless people? All I see of them is someone writing flip-flopping statements about whether nudity on stream is okay or not, always depends on which month it is it feels like.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Video encoding is an expensive operation and probably the second largest cost next to wages. And apparently they aren’t even on an AWS SLA.

AN AMAZON SUBSIDIARY NOT ON AN SLA

Are they really a revenue sink to cover up taxable income?

BradleyUffner,

Shouldn’t the encoding happen locally, on the user’s computer, before it’s even sent to Twitch?

fushuan,

The user doesn’t send several different resolutions of video, the streamer just sends the source, and once thay have enough viewers, twitch reduces the resolution on their side so the viewer can choose either quality.

CleoTheWizard,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Or they just shutter twitch once they realize it’s unprofitable.

worsedoughnut,
@worsedoughnut@lemdro.id avatar

Don’t get my hopes up

AgentGrimstone, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

Maybe he should take a big pay cut if he’s doing that bad a job

bigkahuna1986,

Is our business plan out of touch?

No, it’s the employees who are wrong.

KinNectar, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@KinNectar@kbin.run avatar

One has to wonder if they just split off adult content into a separate platform using the same Amazon logins, and including cross-platform notifications one way from the twitch site to the adult site whether it would solve both their cash flow and advertising problem.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Or just buy Onlyfans. 😅 For Onlyfans it’d solve their payment issues: Amazon allows using it for payment, and Amazon is big enough that Visa and MC cannot just threaten it.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Amazon is so damn big that they could sell the service for OnlyTwitch via Amazon. Amazon sells loads of sex toys and adult products so they just sell a virtual balance card that you redeem on OnlyTwitch. OnlyTwitch itself could be effectively a business that doesn’t have to manage payments at all and just uses balance.

Slithers,

I want to do the math here, but I’m already late to the party. Amazon sells sex toys as health and beauty products. It’s a thin vaneer of plausible deniability. I’d be curious if Amazon is actually large enough financially to actually leverage the large processors. I would be honestly surprised if Amazon is handling a large enough stake by themselves to offset literally every other vendor on the planet combined. But they might. I don’t actually know.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s kinda what I mean that they could hide it in giftcard sales so the payment processors wouldn’t really be the wiser just like how they hide adult products.

ampersandrew, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Maybe a few more ads in the middle of the thing I'm trying to watch, with no way to pause or rewind to catch what I missed, will do the trick.

_sideffect,

When did that start? I used to be on Twitch 4-5 years ago, but never went back since then.

I don’t remember ads at all back then

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Ads used to be run at the streamers' discretion, and they were beaten by adblock. Now adblock doesn't work on Twitch, because they did the smart thing and embedded them into the stream. Also, a few years back, even though streamers have an incentive to run ads, because they benefit from it too, Twitch implemented mandatory thresholds for number of ads that need to be run or else you lose access to some tier of monetization, so most streamers leave it on auto pilot now. It means that whenever the same stream is running on YouTube, I'm watching on YouTube so I don't miss anything.

ImplyingImplications,

I mostly watch YouTube streamers. Once in a while they’ll do a Twitch stream and holy shit it’s night and day. 0 ads on YouTube and 30 second and even sometimes 1 minute unskippable ads constantly interrupting the stream on Twitch. I honestly have no idea how people put up with it. I cancelled cable because I didn’t want to watch ads, I’m not going to a site that does the same.

fsxylo,

My adblock blocks the ads, but I still get that stupid purple screen. What really annoys me is that it’s a minute and a half long. Twitch really wants me to disable ad block so I look at an ad on a Livestream for almost two fucking minutes.

I minimize and do something else until then but that’s asinine.

Marin_Rider,

hold on, you mean to tell me a platform that exists and is known purely for LIVE streaming content has put ads OVER the livestream interrupting your view? what kind of idiot would have approved such a service killing move?

derpgon,

As a mod, you can postpone an ad by 5 minutes 3 times. You can’t postpone it by 1 minute, you can’t choose to play them during downtime, you can’t do shit but pray an interesting moment doesn’t happen during the 1 minute.

wurstgulasch3000,

Adblockers still work so I’ve never seen ads on twitch

stevedidWHAT, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

Oh please they couldn’t fucking handle moderation I don’t trust them to handle fucking money either.

Let it rot

hansl,

What’s your alternative? YouTube?

legion02,

Kinda? Though they need a better discovery page for live streams.

funkless_eck,

Maybe we don’t actually need 10 hours of video game playing and bikini wearing at a time. Maybe that’s not a good product.

legion02,

Clearly people want it. Who are you to say what’s a good product?

funkless_eck,

The average^^@ user watches Twitch from 4pm to 5.30pm twice a week. There is absolutely a delta between what is required to be a profitable service, what is quality entertainment and what the service is and does currently.

^^@ this isn’t literal, but illustrative

legion02,

No idea how you can come to any of these conclusions given that viewer numbers are publicly visible. If this were true the streamers wouldn’t be live as much as they are outside these hours.

Dasnap,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Justin.tv 2.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll be honest, if the solution is Twitch, then I don’t need my problem solved. That is, compared to Twitch, I don’t need an alternative. Not having Twitch is a solid improvement over having Twitch. (kidding of course, but all too often it feels like that with just how bad the technical aspects of their site are)

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